DUST Search - Need scouting tips

hgghyujh wrote:

mr musturd wrote:

hgghyujh wrote:

scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs.

scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear.

when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped.

there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor.

Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout.

honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm

if I was gonna do that I would use a damp or a cpu extender in that slot instead if you get into armor in a minja you fail anyways. But like I said I fail aggressively and the extra stam lets me jump and run my way out of some crazy situations I mean I'm either running shooting, or reloading in that suit thats how much stam it has.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:00:00 - [1] - Quote So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Harry Bawlss NervousMoment. 8	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:01:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them.
Deranged Disaster The Rainbow Effect 561	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:01:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: How do you guys function? They die. We chew nyan cats and spit rainbows.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 388	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:02:00 - [4] - Quote Flank... Alcohol... Flank... Alcohol... Kill... GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦
Oswald Rehnquist 622	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:03:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? I highly recommend watching these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 about to finish uploading my second video Literally just finished uploading this, will fill description http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT8LHUCYmSk&feature=youtu.be Below 28 dB
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2242	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [6] - Quote Depends on the scout. Which you running. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [7] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them. I already do that. But even 1v1, I sneak up on a guy, aim, unload a few bullets, he turns around and melts my scout. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:04:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2242	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:06:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Hmm you'll have to get shotty or an equally experienced armor scout then, personally I'm a Matari scout. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Oswald Rehnquist 622	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:08:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Scan radius + a high alpha damaging weapon + dampening = an 11k fit that works decently Below 28 dB

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4538	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:10:00 - [11] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. Scan radius + a high alpha damaging weapon + dampening = an 11k fit that works decently ok Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Oswald Rehnquist 623	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:19:00 - [12] - Quote Essentially play it extremely safe, if you are fighting a fair fight, then something went wrong. Dragonfly BPO 2 x TT3 Standard RE BPO Dampener Advance Dampener BPO Grenade I am saving up for the Cal Scout so I don't have any points into an actual scout suit, so you can forgo dampening a little, you just need to make sure it is below 28. Below 28 dB
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2642	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:29:00 - [13] - Quote Tank a reactive plate and enhanced plate. Slap a few shield extenders on, or damage mods. Always flank from behind. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:35:00 - [14] - Quote scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:39:00 - [15] - Quote whoops cant say for galent scout min scouts are too slow as is, but yea sneaky fit, never fight fair,
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:59:00 - [16] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 436	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:08:00 - [17] - Quote Standard procedure when coming face to face with a mass driver is to jump 200ft into the air and scatter yourself over a wide area "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 272	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:19:00 - [18] - Quote Shotgun and scanner. Wait till someone breaks off from the main group and assassinate. Rinse and repeat. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 168	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:35:00 - [19] - Quote mr musturd wrote: hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm if I was gonna do that I would use a damp or a cpu extender in that slot instead if you get into armor in a minja you fail anyways. But like I said I fail aggressively and the extra stam lets me jump and run my way out of some crazy situations I mean I'm either running shooting, or reloading in that suit thats how much stam it has.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 302	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:06:00 - [20] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Shotgun and scanner. Wait till someone breaks off from the main group and assassinate. Rinse and repeat. You can do this but it's not as necessary as you think, with some points into passive scanning you can do the same albeit at a shorter range. Especially with the shotgun, you are already going to be at short distance. But with a scanner you are better able to tank cus you don't need the enhancer or range amplifier. I prefer remotes or nanos, though nanos can be hard to fit.

Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 183	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:26:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Harry Bawlss wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? You dont run into a group of them. I already do that. But even 1v1, I sneak up on a guy, aim, unload a few bullets, he turns around and melts my scout. You need to use the breach shotgun and pray it is not an armor tanked Gallente. Practice headshots with the scrambler as sidearm, and lots of jumping, preferable jump into them and hope they are not skilled enough and used to really close combat.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:37:00 - [22] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: mr musturd wrote: hgghyujh wrote: scouts have turned into the assassins of this game so you what high burst damage weapons, SG/NK/MD/PLC/Scram pistol. you get the idea, charge scram rifle might work well at range. if you are minmatar DO NOT use your lows for tank, go for either one kincat one cardstab, or a CPU upgrade and a damper. universally I have seen minmatar scouts running extenders in the highs. scouting is a lot like playing the spy in TF2 you sneak in some where the enemy doesn't expect you drop an enemy and disappear, try to engage one on one, or when they are under by your teamates from an other direction. NEVER!! leave cover near an enemy! avoid being out of cover as much as possible, if you don't get first hit use your speed and disappear. when running away don't run in a straight line, use cover as much as possible and remember the enemy losses line of sight and they cant see you any more, use this to your advantage to get around behind them, some of the best scout out their the ones I aspire to be like, will run around the same three objects getting kill after kill, even tho they look trapped. there is this really fine line between too aggressive, and never getting a kill with a scout, I tend to fail on the aggressive side, I try to win instead of engaging intelligently, the best mentality of a scout seems to be a cold cunning slayer of men, you love to outwit and out maneuver your opponent, while staying level headed when the game is not going in your favor. Scouting is hell, its hard mode, but for the few that like it its the only fun way to play the game and thats why they keep playing scout. honestly i find 1 plate and 1 complex cat to be much more effective than the stamina mod speed tanking is useless atm if I was gonna do that I would use a damp or a cpu extender in that slot instead if you get into armor in a minja you fail anyways. But like I said I fail aggressively and the extra stam lets me jump and run my way out of some crazy situations I mean I'm either running shooting, or reloading in that suit thats how much stam it has. I disagree balancing one plate with one kinetic cat has become a very viable build for the minny I run nothing but minny scout and almost all my builds consist of either a ferro or reactive plate and complex kin kat the extra stamina use to be helpful but now you need the extra HP
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 649	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:43:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So uhhh.... I decided to waste my SP and go scouts. I am currently using advanced scouts and I want to rage quit. How do you guys function? Get good scrub, been running scout with a possitive k/d without using scrubby ARs since chromo. Edit This isnt ment to be serious, I just want to bust Cats metaphorical feline balls Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 649	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:50:00 - [24] - Quote >all these people saying fight one on one You guys are doing it wrong, you fight groups at a time. Sprint in and around them, back and forth, confuse the heck out of them and kill them in their panic. Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5166	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:21:00 - [25] - Quote If encountering an enemy group, attack from the rear and pick off any lone stragglers from behind. Also, keep a very close eye on your mini map if you're using range amplifiers for enhanced passive scan range. Gallente scouts have a passive scan range advantage over all other suits. Three enhanced range amps with maxed out Gallente scout skill can help me see up to 51 meters at least through any obstruction without needing any active scanners. The added bonus is that you can spot your enemy without alerting them to your presence and you can decide the terms of the engagement by knowing where they're going and which way they're facing when you do engage them. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 521	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:07:00 - [26] - Quote hey cat I run nothing but gallente scout's and hardly ever run an advanced its either g-I or gk.0 but with gallente my highs are always a complex extender so X2 should get you well over 220 shield my lows on g-I are almost always a plate and rep this should net you close to 500 hp with only a 3% penalty to speed ACTIVE SCANNER SCAN ATTEMPT FAILED
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 657	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:31:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Depends on the scout. Which you running. Gal. Gallente for life biatch. DJINN marauder is a better gal scout than me. GAL scout to 5 this will make it so only proto scanners can pick you up. wall hack, your base scan radius is 16m with full passive skilling you can get this up to 24m i think. use these tools to your advantage and play tight areas where you can see them coming before they can see you. also a complex sheild extender and a complex armor rep go a long way to help you kill. if that advice fails (it probably will) use the med frames as meat shields, you think I'm kidding? I assure you I'm not. the odds are somebody on the other team has a scanner and is scanning down the blueberry hord you are largely immune to the scanner and can hide in plain sight among the blueberries picking off kills. just stick to the back of the crowd. I've never been any good with a shotty so i use an AR if you need shotty advice I'm not your scout. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1758	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:33:00 - [28] - Quote Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:34:00 - [29] - Quote Well in the brief time Aero and I worked together as scouts we learnt. The Scrambler pistol is god....2x is even better. Don't fight what you can evade. Our motto was "NOT OUR WAR!" I wouldn't even bother trying to go slayer, you will have more fun wreaking havoc in the oppositions back field as a shotgunner or ambushing scout, hacking their points or assets. Scanner is good. Never scout alone....its a cold, short existence. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4142	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:35:00 - [30] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Flank like it's going out of style. Your goal is to only shoot people in the back. :D Or in the head. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"



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