Even if in 1.7 vehicles finally feel right it won't matter if its impossible for me to afford to play the role I have all my sp in. Vehicles need to become cheaper or have the opportunity to make increased isk.

Everyday until its a reality.

Even if in 1.7 vehicles finally feel right it won't matter if its impossible for me to afford to play the role I have all my sp in. Vehicles need to become cheaper or have the opportunity to make increased isk.

Everyday until its a reality.

Heavys and scouts have the same problem.

Cost too much for so little benefit.

And we die more often.......

misleading title, i thought you were talking about the BULLSHIT 50 sec cooldown complex shield hardener

Heavys and scouts have the same problem.

Cost too much for so little benefit.

And we die more often.......

Shhh, don't tell them that we have to seriously invest into entire trees in order to be able to combat most things! Cores, weapons, suits, modules, other weapons as backup, equipment...

Apologies. Also I won't give it grief until i try it to be honest but if 1.7 sucks I'm outtie. Tanking hasn't been fun since Chrome. Murder taxis have been removed. Dropships are fun but isk sinks in the worst way.

I kind of like that vehicles are so unsustainable... I'd be happy with a 25% price cut, but I don't ever want it so that you can die and still break even; I'd like it if I could run a profit in my best fit after five matches, though.

While I agree keep something in mind.

In 1.7, most active militia modules offer the exact same benefit at prototype modules but with longer cooldowns or shorter duration. While this means that you will suffer from more downtime while your modules cool down, it also means that your burst tank is very similar to that of a maxed out tank. The Militia HAV has 1 less module than a standard HAV but the exact same base HP.

With that said, one could put together a militia HAV, or even a Standard HAV with militia modules and still have respectable defenses. I think this will help a lot of HAV pilots afford cheap militia tanks that are actually half decent, without breaking the bank.

Even if in 1.7 vehicles finally feel right it won't matter if its impossible for me to afford to play the role I have all my sp in. Vehicles need to become cheaper or have the opportunity to make increased isk.

Everyday until its a reality.

While I agree keep something in mind.

In 1.7, most active militia modules offer the exact same benefit at prototype modules but with longer cooldowns or shorter duration. While this means that you will suffer from more downtime while your modules cool down, it also means that your burst tank is very similar to that of a maxed out tank. The Militia HAV has 1 less module than a standard HAV but the exact same base HP.

With that said, one could put together a militia HAV, or even a Standard HAV with militia modules and still have respectable defenses. I think this will help a lot of HAV pilots afford cheap militia tanks that are actually half decent, without breaking the bank.

Yea, because you get the right to earn more money. You field a tank, you risk your tank, just like everyone else with their suits.

A proto turret costs 1m isk.

Modules are cheap comparatively.

I realize that this will never happen seeing how it's too late in the development but there should have been two separate xp (sp) systems acrued for each player - one for infantry skill and the other one for vehicles. This way would woulda avoided all this vehicle whinning of ppl that willingly speced into something they cant afford to run.

Yea, because you get the right to earn more money. You field a tank, you risk your tank, just like everyone else with their suits.

Capital ships are not that sustainable as well to lose every battle.

Even if in 1.7 vehicles finally feel right it won't matter if its impossible for me to afford to play the role I have all my sp in. Vehicles need to become cheaper or have the opportunity to make increased isk.

Everyday until its a reality.

If vehicles had the prices of a dropsuit, a single AV guy should be able to take out one in same timeframe of a Duvolle at point blank range.

Or you explode if you take one AV grenade, i know my proto suit explodes on a Militia Grade grenade, so only fair that if tanks can be spammed like dropsuits, they behave like dropsuits.

misleading title, i thought you were talking about the BULLSHIT 50 sec cooldown complex shield hardener

How about not using the most expensive gear possible?

My tank costs around 400k and I still do well enough to get 250k payouts from the match. That's about two matches to cover the loss.

You don't have to use complex modules and proto turrets every time. STD gear get the job done just as fast.