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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Until all core assets and skills are in the game, requests for respecs are both valid and warranted.
^ this
P.S. I am awaiting a free respec. Not going to pay for one when the game is changing so much every patch.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:37:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:38:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Until all core assets and skills are in the game, requests for respecs are both valid and warranted. ^ this P.S. I am awaiting a free respec. Not going to pay for one when the game is changing so much every patch.
Elaborate please.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did
Tell me the state of the game that justifies a respec that isn't based on emotions about a feature. Tell me how respecs would be good for the game because I am open minded and I will consider anything.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
We Pay The Iron Price
408
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:49:00 -
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I like how people have to call me names and say that I am **** and wan't to go in OP gear. Changing facts is basicly the lamest thing to do - I doubt it's your bussiness but I want to get a respec so I can train only the passive skills and leave heaps of SP for the things that might come in the future.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:50:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did Tell me the state of the game that justifies a respec that isn't based on emotions about a feature. Tell me how respecs would be good for the game because I am open minded and I will consider anything. Core
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Drapedup Drippedout
G.U.T.Z
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:51:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere.
Dear dipshit,
How can I keep up changing with a game that changes core mechanics and weapon stats every month? When they are completely reworking the base stats of any and all modules or equipment, it fundamentally changes the dynamic of the game. They may nerf a playstyle completely (see heavy/scout/callogi/ARs/MassDrivers/ScR/Vehicle/etc...). CCP makes us save for a month or two to spec into a tree, then in 1 week releases notes that say "we are changing the entire tree you specced into, so even though you grind for months, we will nerf it and you can go **** yourself". Simply because you don't want a respec doesn't mean that respecs are not deserved or warranted for 90% of the player base. If you don't want a respec, don't use it. There are a large demographic of players that want/need it.
This game has been absolute **** for two months now. It went from a broken game with great squad and team tactics to a twitch shooter/watered down version of COD. If it has any hopes of redeeming its current player base and bringing back the players that have left, they will issue a respec. Even if the intent is simply injecting some life back into this dying game. |
Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did
I understand this game completely. And as a 4 year EVE player I understand how CCP works and how they will make changes to Dust. Your comment and your desire for a respec is horse ****. When will the respecs ever end?
As more suits, more weapons, more vehicles, more modules more skills are added to Dust are the whiners always going to ***** about wanting a respec. "Whaa my maxed out tank can die now I want a respec. Whaa my AR is outranged by a scrambler I want a respec."
People crying and complaining about respecs are upset they have to train something else and they want that something else just handed to them. They are weak and their argument is weaker. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1256
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did Tell me the state of the game that justifies a respec that isn't based on emotions about a feature. Tell me how respecs would be good for the game because I am open minded and I will consider anything. Core Material
Just because it isn't here doesn't mean we should get a respec. EVE started the same and it worked. Every game with DLC is a game that doesn't have its "core". There haven't been any surprises that make the choices we have unplayable and no one forced you to put SP anywhere. How is the addition of some suit and weapons now any different then in 6 months or a year or two years from now? Wouldn't same argument be valid every time something is released? We have the core and based off of lore is happening about right. No one said that the game has to have for races of heavy or vehicle. If we only have two racial vehicles for the next year then a respec is warranted at any time. How is it good for the game?
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1256
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:58:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did I understand this game completely. And as a 4 year EVE player I understand how CCP works and how they will make changes to Dust. Your comment and your desire for a respec is horse ****. When will the respecs ever end? As more suits, more weapons, more vehicles, more modules more skills are added to Dust are the whiners always going to ***** about wanting a respec. "Whaa my maxed out tank can die now I want a respec. Whaa my AR is outranged by a scrambler I want a respec." People crying and complaining about respecs are upset they have to train something else and they want that something else just handed to them. They are weak and their argument is weaker.
Are you my ALT?
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
We Pay The Iron Price
408
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:59:00 -
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People who use the word "crying", immitate sounds or say that I want a respec to get OP gear shall be ignored. Here's why : I have an assault rifle with prof 5, Core nades, shield extenders and enhanced armor modules, I also have 1.5 M SP to spec into gallente logi and finsih the armour skills. I could use the OP gear but I don't so I will just find your posts immature. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1256
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:01:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. Dear dipshit, How can I keep up changing with a game that changes core mechanics and weapon stats every month? When they are completely reworking the base stats of any and all modules or equipment, it fundamentally changes the dynamic of the game. They may nerf a playstyle completely (see heavy/scout/callogi/ARs/MassDrivers/ScR/Vehicle/etc...). CCP makes us save for a month or two to spec into a tree, then in 1 week releases notes that say "we are changing the entire tree you specced into, so even though you grind for months, we will nerf it and you can go **** yourself". Simply because you don't want a respec doesn't mean that respecs are not deserved or warranted for 90% of the player base. If you don't want a respec, don't use it. There are a large demographic of players that want/need it. This game has been absolute **** for two months now. It went from a broken game with great squad and team tactics to a twitch shooter/watered down version of COD. If it has any hopes of redeeming its current player base and bringing back the players that have left, they will issue a respec. Even if the intent is simply injecting some life back into this dying game.
They did what we wanted and now we want a respec because they did what we wanted
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7727
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:02:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:People who use the word "crying", immitate sounds or say that I want a respec to get OP gear shall be ignored. Here's why : I have an assault rifle with prof 5, Core nades, shield extenders and enhanced armor modules, I also have 1.5 M SP to spec into gallente logi and finsih the armour skills. I could use the OP gear but I don't so I will just find your posts immature. Many vets have 20-30+ million SP, and thus, have MANY paths MAXED out already.
Respec does not make them stronger because they're already at max strength, it simply allows them to make informed decisions, and gives newer players the opportunity to better equip themselves.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:04:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. If you don't understand the state of the game completely, you should likely refrain from posting about it, lest you appear as you just did Tell me the state of the game that justifies a respec that isn't based on emotions about a feature. Tell me how respecs would be good for the game because I am open minded and I will consider anything. Core Material Just because it isn't here doesn't mean we should get a respec. EVE started the same and it worked. Every game with DLC is a game that doesn't have its "core". There haven't been any surprises that make the choices we have unplayable and no one forced you to put SP anywhere. How is the addition of some suit and weapons now any different then in 6 months or a year or two years from now? Wouldn't same argument be valid every time something is released? We have the core and based off of lore is happening about right. No one said that the game has to have for races of heavy or vehicle. If we only have two racial vehicles for the next year then a respec is warranted at any time. How is it good for the game? So Gallente Heavies should have just run militia gear for the past year and a half
Wow, the wisdom is just pouring off of you
Those Minmatar pilots must really love flying Gorgons around with no SP invested since they don't know how the Minmatar dropships will look or play, and don't want to spend precious SP on the wrong skills before they're released. And to hell with those Amarr HAV pilots, Sica's all around!!!
Core material released = respec. Release it all together, and you only need one respec
Respecs are definitely coming considering CCP has shown strong interest in monetizing them via SP skillback boosters
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
We Pay The Iron Price
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:People who use the word "crying", immitate sounds or say that I want a respec to get OP gear shall be ignored. Here's why : I have an assault rifle with prof 5, Core nades, shield extenders and enhanced armor modules, I also have 1.5 M SP to spec into gallente logi and finsih the armour skills. I could use the OP gear but I don't so I will just find your posts immature. Many vets have 20-30+ million SP, and thus, have MANY paths MAXED out already. Respec does not make them stronger because they're already at max strength, it simply allows them to make informed decisions, and gives newer players the opportunity to better equip themselves.
This is how I feel about respecs. I might not have that much (19.5 M) but still it's more than enough to have the best, competative gear I could want. Having a respec won't help me use FoTM because it's not that hard to get it in the first place. I bet new players would welcome the thought of having something useful. I met a guy yesterday that went dropsuit command level 5 in the first try. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:13:00 -
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Guys respecs are idiotic
Just play the game for a few years to be able to use everything maxed out and not be bored.
Tired of being a logi and want to be a heavy? Better activate those omegas. Tired of being a heavy and want to be a pilot? Start grinding.
-No Respec Crowd's Logic
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:13:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:People who use the word "crying", immitate sounds or say that I want a respec to get OP gear shall be ignored. Here's why : I have an assault rifle with prof 5, Core nades, shield extenders and enhanced armor modules, I also have 1.5 M SP to spec into gallente logi and finsih the armour skills. I could use the OP gear but I don't so I will just find your posts immature. Many vets have 20-30+ million SP, and thus, have MANY paths MAXED out already. Respec does not make them stronger because they're already at max strength, it simply allows them to make informed decisions, and gives newer players the opportunity to better equip themselves. This is how I feel about respecs. I might not have that much (19.5 M) but still it's more than enough to have the best, competative gear I could want. Having a respec won't help me use FoTM because it's not that hard to get it in the first place. I bet new players would welcome the thought of having something useful. I met a guy yesterday that went dropsuit command level 5 in the first try. Overall I'm actually happy with where my SP is, aside from a few random things here and there, though I'd like to be more focused on vehicles (I'm close to maxed on what I need anyways). I actually went basic heavy to 5 because I think the sentinel bonus is a joke, as are heavies with less than 2 complex damage mods
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:17:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. Dear dipshit, How can I keep up changing with a game that changes core mechanics and weapon stats every month? When they are completely reworking the base stats of any and all modules or equipment, it fundamentally changes the dynamic of the game. They may nerf a playstyle completely (see heavy/scout/callogi/ARs/MassDrivers/ScR/Vehicle/etc...). CCP makes us save for a month or two to spec into a tree, then in 1 week releases notes that say "we are changing the entire tree you specced into, so even though you grind for months, we will nerf it and you can go **** yourself". Simply because you don't want a respec doesn't mean that respecs are not deserved or warranted for 90% of the player base. If you don't want a respec, don't use it. There are a large demographic of players that want/need it. This game has been absolute **** for two months now. It went from a broken game with great squad and team tactics to a twitch shooter/watered down version of COD. If it has any hopes of redeeming its current player base and bringing back the players that have left, they will issue a respec. Even if the intent is simply injecting some life back into this dying game. They did what we wanted and now we want a respec because they did what we wanted
Exactly. The more CCP gives in to the complaints and demand for respecs the more people will be using the fotm gear, thus making Dust more like COD not less like it. When you have a weapon skilled that is not the fotm you either train for the fotm item or adapt your tactics to counter it. I know my AR can't compete with a laser or scrambler at range. That doesn't mean I kick and scream for a respec. I adapt my AR tactics while training for the scrambler.
But as more and more people do this the scrambler is already becoming dominate on the battlefield. Just look at the kill fee feeds during battle. Scrambled are gaining popularity. Eventually the scrambler will change or something will be added to counter it. Should everyone using the scrambler get a respec then? **** no. Because respecs are bull ****.
For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:23:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. Hording SP for things that should already be in the game makes no sense, and if you all can't see that then you all can't be reasoned with.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:30:00 -
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If you don't understand new things will always be added to Dust you can't be reasoned with either. I have Corp mates hoarding sp right now for the rail and combat rifle. They aren't begging ccp to give it to them they are working for it. |
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:33:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:The game has changed so much from the start of uprising and so many modules and playstyles are obsolete.
We need that one last respec. Anything besides dmg mods and HP buffs is kind of a gimmick. You can't deny it. I don't see how a respec could change anything. however I do agree with the modules part. they need to add cloaking for the scout, give HMG a buff, and a buff in nova knives. then this game will be balanced. we will, at last, be able to equip most modules for the scout and heavy instead of just using plates and dam mods.
this game currently revolves around the AR |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
We Pay The Iron Price
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:37:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If you don't understand new things will always be added to Dust you can't be reasoned with either. I have Corp mates hoarding sp right now for the rail and combat rifle. They aren't begging ccp to give it to them they are working for it. I too have saved up SP for the rail rifle but that is not the problem, problem is that it should have been there along with the AR. I dont' want the AR. |
Drapedup Drippedout
G.U.T.Z
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:43:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Why are there so many crybabies in Dust? Understand this:
DUST WILL ALWAYS CHANGE!
Get used to it or stop playing. If you don't like this fact go play another short-shelf life game where you can reach your God mode and be happy until you get bored and never play that game again.
Dust is different because you have to change with the game or you will be slaughtered. Respecs are a crutch and they are bad for the game. Deal with it or go elsewhere. Dear dipshit, How can I keep up changing with a game that changes core mechanics and weapon stats every month? When they are completely reworking the base stats of any and all modules or equipment, it fundamentally changes the dynamic of the game. They may nerf a playstyle completely (see heavy/scout/callogi/ARs/MassDrivers/ScR/Vehicle/etc...). CCP makes us save for a month or two to spec into a tree, then in 1 week releases notes that say "we are changing the entire tree you specced into, so even though you grind for months, we will nerf it and you can go **** yourself". Simply because you don't want a respec doesn't mean that respecs are not deserved or warranted for 90% of the player base. If you don't want a respec, don't use it. There are a large demographic of players that want/need it. This game has been absolute **** for two months now. It went from a broken game with great squad and team tactics to a twitch shooter/watered down version of COD. If it has any hopes of redeeming its current player base and bringing back the players that have left, they will issue a respec. Even if the intent is simply injecting some life back into this dying game. They did what we wanted and now we want a respec because they did what we wanted Exactly. The more CCP gives in to the complaints and demand for respecs the more people will be using the fotm gear, thus making Dust more like COD not less like it. When you have a weapon skilled that is not the fotm you either train for the fotm item or adapt your tactics to counter it. I know my AR can't compete with a laser or scrambler at range. That doesn't mean I kick and scream for a respec. I adapt my AR tactics while training for the scrambler. But as more and more people do this the scrambler is already becoming dominate on the battlefield. Just look at the kill fee feeds during battle. Scrambled are gaining popularity. Eventually the scrambler will change or something will be added to counter it. Should everyone using the scrambler get a respec then? **** no. Because respecs are bull ****. For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit.
Changes also are not announced in a timely fashion, ask the vehical specialist about 1.5. And weeks in advance? That's great considering it can take MONTHS to grind enough SP to max a skill only to find out that skill will become useless in the next patch.
I get it man, you're scared that with a respec other players may smash you. Why is everyone using this argument that people will go into the FOTM? Who ******* cares? The bigger question is WHY IS THERE A FOTM TO BEGIN WITH?!? the answer is because you are playing a game still in BETA! IT is not balanced in any form or fashion. These monthly patches are not tweaking specific things they are more reworkings of entire skills or equip. Until the game has achieved some semblance of balance, then respec every week for all I care. On to your second point, of course adapting gameplay will always be the challenge (or should be of any good RPG) but this is not an RPG! There is no PvE, your decisions matter that week or until the next patch, then who knows whats going to happen! It is an FPS with a ****-grind. They have already altered the core mechanics of this game twice since JULY! In fact they have taken some things COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GAME to re-work the base stats. How can you possibly justify no respec for vehical specialists?
Please tell me how respecs make this more like COD? Justify that statement. COD has no skill tree, limited tactical dynamics, no vehicles, and 60,000,000 players. Dust is supposedly squad based, with vehicles, and 3,000 players.
A respec will not adversely affect anyone's playstyle. It simply allows them to make a more educated distribution of their SP as the game changes its core mechanics. How does that affect how good of a player you are? If Nove Knives become the FOTM, I can guarantee you I won't go into them. WHy? Because a respec doesn't change how good or bad of a player I am. It simply allows me to re-allocate SP into something that CCP has nerfed out of existence. EX: Flaylocks. People went into flaylock because CCP put them into the game WITHOUT testing and when flaylock spam broke the game, CCP decides 'oh we screwed up better nerf them'. How can you possibly blame the player base for using what CCP put into their own game? Why should those players be affected by CCP's poor decision making?
Respecs will save this game, none and watch it die.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1257
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. Hording SP for things that should already be in the game makes no sense, and if you all can't see that then you all can't be reasoned with.
Should already be in the game isn't be best way to say it. Many people can argue that jet packs should be in the game by now. They aren't here and because of that we only had a few choices soon there will be more choices. It isn't bad it is just a different way of doing things when compared to other studios or other studios with more experience.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:People who use the word "crying", immitate sounds or say that I want a respec to get OP gear shall be ignored. Here's why : I have an assault rifle with prof 5, Core nades, shield extenders and enhanced armor modules, I also have 1.5 M SP to spec into gallente logi and finsih the armour skills. I could use the OP gear but I don't so I will just find your posts immature. Many vets have 20-30+ million SP, and thus, have MANY paths MAXED out already. Respec does not make them stronger because they're already at max strength, it simply allows them to make informed decisions, and gives newer players the opportunity to better equip themselves.
How many more times are we going to use that justification? Only once more or only when the full line of bubble shields is released? It is a slippery slope that leads downhill faster.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:58:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. Hording SP for things that should already be in the game makes no sense, and if you all can't see that then you all can't be reasoned with. Should already be in the game isn't be best way to say it. Many people can argue that jet packs should be in the game by now. They aren't here and because of that we only had a few choices soon there will be more choices. It isn't bad it is just a different way of doing things when compared to other studios or other studios with more experience. So your argument is that Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar Heavies, Caldari and Amarr Scouts, along with Minmatar and Amarr Dropships, LAVs, and HAVs, are the same as jetpacks.
That's what you're going with?
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Izlare Lenix
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:06:00 -
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Players will always complain about this being op or that needing a nerf. There will ALWAYS be a FOTM item. Untill a new item replaces it as the new fotm item. As stats change and new gear is added what works today won't always work tomorrow. The only way to prevent a FOTM item is to make everything the same. How boring would that be?
Respecs allow players to instantly use another item or a newly added item thus reducing variety and tactics on the field. If CCP added every dropsuit, item, module, weapon, vehicle and skill all at once. Everyone would gravitate to a few select items and that is all we would ever see. And since nothing new would be added or stats changed the game would become dull and repetitive. New skills, gear and things to train for keeps the game fresh and evolving. Respecs kill that because you don't have to work for anything. |
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:14:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Respecs kill that because you don't have to work for anything. So respecs add millions of SP to your SP pool that you didn't earn in game?
Damn, I must not know what respecs are. I was under the impression they allowed you to use your earned SP with all current and relevant information available to you. Damn, someone send me that memo, I want free SP
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Respecs kill that because you don't have to work for anything. So respecs add millions of SP to your SP pool that you didn't earn in game? Damn, I must not know what respecs are. I was under the impression they allowed you to use your earned SP with all current and relevant information available to you. Damn, someone send me that memo, I want free SP
Yes you did earn that SP. But you also spent it. No refund. Tell me one thing in this world you can exchange for something new after you rode it hard and got your use out of it? Why should SP be any different.
Are you just not going to train anything because Ccp might change something in the future? Get over it. You have access to the same information we all do. And you know more changes are coming. It is not a secret. Either make it work how you want or stop playing. |
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. Hording SP for things that should already be in the game makes no sense, and if you all can't see that then you all can't be reasoned with. Should already be in the game isn't be best way to say it. Many people can argue that jet packs should be in the game by now. They aren't here and because of that we only had a few choices soon there will be more choices. It isn't bad it is just a different way of doing things when compared to other studios or other studios with more experience. So your argument is that Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar Heavies, Caldari and Amarr Scouts, along with Minmatar and Amarr Dropships, LAVs, and HAVs, are the same as jetpacks. That's what you're going with?
No, I am saying that those things weren't in the game so they weren't supposed to be. If they were they would have been or it wouldn't have been released. They chose to release the game even if you still choose to call it a beta and so we have what we have. Saying it was supposed to be in there isn't a good argument for a respec. That is what fast food guys say to me when they leave out the pickles.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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