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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:23:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Respecs kill that because you don't have to work for anything. So respecs add millions of SP to your SP pool that you didn't earn in game? Damn, I must not know what respecs are. I was under the impression they allowed you to use your earned SP with all current and relevant information available to you. Damn, someone send me that memo, I want free SP Yes you did earn that SP. But you also spent it. No refund. Tell me one thing in this world you can exchange for something new after you rode it hard and got your use out of it? Why should SP be any different. Are you just not going to train anything because Ccp might change something in the future? Get over it. You have access to the same information we all do. And you know more changes are coming. It is not a secret. Either make it work how you want or stop playing. So what about people who want to play Heavies, but don't want to be Amarr. Our scouts, but they're Caldari? What about vehicle users.
Also, DUST is not real life, believe it or not. It's actually a video game, a means of entertainment.
You are a brilliant marketing person, that's for sure. Play things you don't want or HTFU and quit! Excellent logic, superb, you've really convinced me. What a seller!
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:24:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:The game has changed so much from the start of uprising and so many modules and playstyles are obsolete.
We need that one last respec. Anything besides dmg mods and HP buffs is kind of a gimmick. You can't deny it.
and a few builds from now after your respec you will be singing the same song....
this game's very nature is to change, as is eve...
it's something we just need to get used to.
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:26:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:For Drapedup: Changes to Dust don't happen overnight. There are Dev blogs, forum posts and discussions about upcoming changes weeks sometimes months in advance. And we ALL know more **** will be added to dust over time. If you are not able to plan your training accordingly, or horde SP for an item coming out that you really want than maybe you are the dipshit. Hording SP for things that should already be in the game makes no sense, and if you all can't see that then you all can't be reasoned with. Should already be in the game isn't be best way to say it. Many people can argue that jet packs should be in the game by now. They aren't here and because of that we only had a few choices soon there will be more choices. It isn't bad it is just a different way of doing things when compared to other studios or other studios with more experience. So your argument is that Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar Heavies, Caldari and Amarr Scouts, along with Minmatar and Amarr Dropships, LAVs, and HAVs, are the same as jetpacks. That's what you're going with? No, I am saying that those things weren't in the game so they weren't supposed to be. If they were they would have been or it wouldn't have been released. They chose to release the game even if you still choose to call it a beta and so we have what we have. Saying it was supposed to be in there isn't a good argument for a respec. That is what fast food guys say to me when they leave out the pickles. I can't even talk to you if you think that the very basic material in this game is actually not basic material, and that a Gallente heavy should not be considered base material because Amarr are the only ones who have Heavies.
I just....what?
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:45:00 -
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What I think doesn't matter. For the record, I think it is one of the stupidest things they could have done. My only point is that saying something should have been here isn't a good reason. The game needs content not respecs. I have SP in things I don't want and coming from a person who doesn't get to play as often as I wish, it hurts. I Think I am about to break 13 M. I have 3-4 in stuff I never use and don't really even like. How a player feels is important but falling back on key principles in the game could be even worse.
The small amount of players we have either love the game or are EVEtards and love the game. Giving respecs is going to make people mad like not giving them one is going to. Got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. Cheesy line but it true and we are on the razors edge of success or failure. They have to make a stand soon or we're all done. I don't really care one way or another if it happens. I want the game to get good and this thread isn't doing that and I don't think that it helps in any way do that.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:52:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:What I think doesn't matter. For the record, I think it is one of the stupidest things they could have done. My only point is that saying something should have been here isn't a good reason. The game needs content not respecs. I have SP in things I don't want and coming from a person who doesn't get to play as often as I wish, it hurts. I Think I am about to break 13 M. I have 3-4 in stuff I never use and don't really even like. How a player feels is important but falling back on key principles in the game could be even worse.
The small amount of players we have either love the game or are EVEtards and love the game. Giving respecs is going to make people mad like not giving them one is going to. Got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. Cheesy line but it true and we are on the razors edge of success or failure. They have to make a stand soon or we're all done. I don't really care one way or another if it happens. I want the game to get good and this thread isn't doing that and I don't think that it helps in any way do that.
Which is why I stand by our right to use our SP the way we wish when all basic material is in front of us.
I only have a couple million SP not where I want it, much of that is in vehicles and will be returned to me in 1.7 with or without a respec. I argue for the principle and little more.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:54:00 -
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things changed? LOL
DUST has always been based around medium suits + ARs. Uprising just highlights that fact even more.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:55:00 -
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Even stacking hp is useless right now since lolar still deal over 800 damage in less than a second. And every one uses ars (fotm anyone?)
"Please don't"
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:57:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Even stacking hp is useless right now since lolar still deal over 800 damage in less than a second. And every one uses ars (fotm anyone?) FotG, actually. Has been for a year and a half now, only slightly being interrupted by scramblers
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:45:00 -
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Thank you for making my point Dust Fiend. The AR has had a good run at being the king. In fact probably too long. The scrambler rifle is slowly taking away some of that market share and we have more guns coming. That means more things to skill into and the AR will lose its dominance on the battle field. Thus giving us more variety. But everyone who has tons of SP in ARs should not get that sp back just because it might not be king anymore. They should be grateful it was so strong for so long and adapt to the changes in Dust. If you want something train for it. Once you use SP it is gone. That is a fundamental basis of dust and eve. SP is easy to spend but hard to get so use it wisely. And don't complain that something new is being added and its not fair. You still have a huge advantage over new players that have to claw their way from the bottom. |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Even stacking hp is useless right now since lolar still deal over 800 damage in less than a second. And every one uses ars (fotm anyone?) FotG, actually. Has been for a year and a half now, only slightly being interrupted by scramblers And Flaylocks and Mass Drivers (although the mass driver takes skill and knowledge of the game to beat AR users).
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:18:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Thank you for making my point Dust Fiend. The AR has had a good run at being the king. In fact probably too long. The scrambler rifle is slowly taking away some of that market share and we have more guns coming. That means more things to skill into and the AR will lose its dominance on the battle field. Thus giving us more variety. But everyone who has tons of SP in ARs should not get that sp back just because it might not be king anymore. They should be grateful it was so strong for so long and adapt to the changes in Dust. If you want something train for it. Once you use SP it is gone. That is a fundamental basis of dust and eve. SP is easy to spend but hard to get so use it wisely. And don't complain that something new is being added and its not fair. You still have a huge advantage over new players that have to claw their way from the bottom. Who said anything about it not being fair?
I can roll a fresh alt and use only militia and still troll the majority of people who play this game.
It's not new if it was supposed to be old. Meaning, core material is core material and if you're going to offer all four races, you have to offer all four races most basic equipment. When that happens, a respec will be needed.
I whole heartedly agree that there should be no respec for new content, so long as that new content is new content that wasn't supposed to be old content, aka, core content.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:50:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:I think a respec is perhaps not a bad idea, if only from a marketing point of view. Would potentially bring some players back to the game and lets face it, we need more people playing.....
The problem is people will respec Gal Proto, proto hives, proto nades, proto AR and then we will regret that respec :)
But at least it will still be a full match. Better than the 1 versus 12 matches that are beginning to be seen due to dropping player counts.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.19 07:39:00 -
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I specced into Gal Logi and AR after both respecs. I've dealt with the good and the bad with rebalancing and updates, so I put most of my SP into cores. So I hear more weapons are coming, and I've started saving SP. I don't see why anyone other than a vehicle user has an argument for a respec. Eve doesn't give respecs, at least passive SP is free in this game. If there is a respec and everyone jumps onto the Gal Logi it will be flagged as "OP" and then they'll have to nerf it, and then people will cry for another respec.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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