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KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 369	Posted - 2013.11.15 12:44:00 - [31] - Quote Corbina Ninja wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Just found this on youtube, hats to Corby for filming this. The Video is not mine nor do i have anything to do with it, so kudos to original poster and its creator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzISdIq-JYQ The video is mine ^^ thank you is my first video. I bought the recorder recently @daishi mk03 If I wanted to take advantage of this bug I would not have posted the video to report it Thank you Corbina, i hope you dont mind me posting this and i applaud you coming foward with it. Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
Spaceman-Rob Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 237	Posted - 2013.11.15 12:50:00 - [32] - Quote Funny as **** that an m clan member steps forward claiming not to use it, then another steps forward claiming to have made the video. Where there's a will to cheat, there's a way, not much ccp can do about it unfortunately.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 78	Posted - 2013.11.15 12:52:00 - [33] - Quote Yeah Ican tell when desperate red dots spray me down with a std aslt rifle.... can totally tell. The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 378	Posted - 2013.11.15 12:53:00 - [34] - Quote CCP responded that they are aware and will deploy a fix in 1.7 They will not say whether they will hot fix it or not. Maybe they are TRYING to get more people into the ScR?
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 950	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:01:00 - [35] - Quote Eversor Beercase wrote: How about those tactical snipers who shoot 2-3 bullets simultaneously. Hey I can do that with a KAAL and do not use a MOD. After seeing that video that explains how a militia rifle was able to kill me faster than a Duvolle. This is proof of the ever growing BS. If it takes you to cheat to win, than that is sad. You fooling no one but yourself, you have no skills and should stick to Little big planet Karting. Do not eat the yellow snow
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 930	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:28:00 - [36] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Funny as **** that an m clan member steps forward claiming not to use it, then another steps forward claiming to have made the video. ...and? Listen, on EU Server it's almost every time Maphia against Maphia, and I too have a FragFx, allowing to use turbo fire. How would my own teammates consider me if I cheat? And even worse against them? Moreover, nobody except me and corbina actually own a turbo controller / mouse, and we both just don't use it. It's been a year now, since I'm telling ccp to fix this, and if you care, go check out the bugs section back in 2012. It's a known issue between closed beta vets. Next time just be thankful that someone finally lets you know why sometimes you suddenly die. Admittedly, You can't say I am a turbo controller user, simply because I use LR :p An unstoppable force of Rainbows. - First love-quitter in the history of video games.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1367	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:32:00 - [37] - Quote Also, does anyone notice how the AR has 0 recoil/dispersion for the first 30 rounds? You don't need a modded controller for that, you just have to let go of the trigger every 30 rounds. This is the real problem. Links: List of Important Topics I make logistics videos!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 514	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:36:00 - [38] - Quote There are two ways of getting this fixed: 1. Tell CCP that the mechanic is broken 2. Make a lot of people abuse it to the max. Goonswarm style. I prefer if we could get #2 going! That will make CCP fix the problem faster. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 930	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:36:00 - [39] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Also, does anyone notice how the AR has 0 recoil/dispersion for the first 30 rounds? You don't need a modded controller for that, you just have to let go of the trigger every 30 rounds. This is the real problem. Exactly, and I think Corby should have made a vid with the AScR to show its OPness with TurboFire controllers An unstoppable force of Rainbows. - First love-quitter in the history of video games.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 930	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:37:00 - [40] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: There are two ways of getting this fixed: 1. Tell CCP that the mechanic is broken 2. Make a lot of people abuse it to the max. Goonswarm style. I prefer if we could get #2 going! That will make CCP fix the problem faster. whisperppppst hey, I already gave a hint to find Turbo users n.n An unstoppable force of Rainbows. - First love-quitter in the history of video games.

daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:42:00 - [41] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: You can easily code recoil, which works for normal controllers and turbo fire controllers, by not correlating recoil with input, but with fire. aye aye capt'n You think I'm joking? Recoil builds up 5% of max recoil each shot. Recoil resets after 0.5 sec without shooting your weapon. Easy. I think there are specially designed Maphia Corp Controllers for PS3 with Turbo Buttons.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 903	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:51:00 - [42] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: You think I'm joking? Recoil builds up 5% of max recoil each shot. Recoil resets after 0.5 sec without shooting your weapon. Easy. I think there are specially designed Maphia Corp Controllers for PS3 with Turbo Buttons. You don't reset, you add the recoil and keep it flat for as long as it would take to fire a new shot, then start gradually reducing the recoil. 0.5 seconds does sound too fast to go to zero however.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 802	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:05:00 - [43] - Quote now make a modded controller video with ScrR or AScrR
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:06:00 - [44] - Quote I just wrote down fantasy numbers ... time to reset recoil should also be different on different weapons. I just want to post an example, that you can fix this **** with turbo controllers EASILY.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 517	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:13:00 - [45] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Considering how a turbo controller works this should not surprise anyone. What a turbo controler does is tapping a button pretty fast (faster than any human) and with every tap you reset the recoil of most automatic weapons in Dust (this is by Design). proof: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1141672 and then here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1183154#post1183154 Quote: [BUG/BY DESIGN?] Quickly Tapping Fire With AR Drastically Raises Accuracy - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1139981#post1139981 Status: This is by design tldr; terrible design "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 1866	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:18:00 - [46] - Quote You get the exact same result when you tap the R1 button like every 20 bullets. Waste of money to buy a modded pad just for that. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 174	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:19:00 - [47] - Quote Hey guys. Thanks for pulling this together. The issues been escalated and I've passed on the video. Whether or not it's working as "mechanically intended" I can't comment on yet, but will try to get a response for you when I know more. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager

daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:30:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys. Thanks for pulling this together. The issues been escalated and I've passed on the video. Whether or not it's working as "mechanically intended" I can't comment on yet, but will try to get a response for you when I know more. Could you please tell everybody, that it is no problem to implement recoil, which can't be bypassed by turbo controllers? Thanks. Many people think it is impossible.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 177	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:40:00 - [49] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys. Thanks for pulling this together. The issues been escalated and I've passed on the video. Whether or not it's working as "mechanically intended" I can't comment on yet, but will try to get a response for you when I know more. Could you please tell everybody, that it is no problem to implement recoil, which can't be bypassed by turbo controllers? Thanks. Many people think it is impossible. I'd honestly rather not comment (probably because I'd be wrong) and would rather have the design guys take a look. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager

Zatara Rought Imperfects 1669	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:47:00 - [50] - Quote It seems obvious between the 2 different types that the modded was simply putting a small amount of time between certain portions of the clip in order to negate the recoil...however this did seem to translate into a slightly longer time to unload the clip. That's Master nader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"

Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2045	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:48:00 - [51] - Quote Spirolito wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 Is this normal? I dont know this gun but iI think this is another example of that. Correct me if im mistaken. At minute 8 he kills a Heavy like he was nothing. I can tap that fast with my finger and an original Sony controller. That in the video is some extremely good accuracy, though. -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 390	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:49:00 - [52] - Quote This really sucks for those of us who tap fire legit. CCP needs to find a solution that can fix this for ALL weapons.
OSGR Valdez TeamPlayers 144	Posted - 2013.11.15 14:52:00 - [53] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: It seems obvious between the 2 different types that the modded was simply putting a small amount of time between certain portions of the clip in order to negate the recoil...however this did seem to translate into a slightly longer time to unload the clip. Yeah, literally anyone can do what that modded controller did.
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 390	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:03:00 - [54] - Quote There was a thread awhile back about this, someone also said it works for the HMG (idk how tho) Anyway, the accuracy and tapping is BY DESIGN
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 958	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:04:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys. Thanks for pulling this together. The issues been escalated and I've passed on the video. Whether or not it's working as "mechanically intended" I can't comment on yet, but will try to get a response for you when I know more. On Topic: Thanks for looking into this. Off Topic: I've killed you and Frame both with my Heretic-Cleansing-Final-Solution-Imperial-Laser-Beams-of-God-Scrambler-Rifle :)
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 960	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:47:00 - [56] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: You should see how OP the ASCR is..... with turbo.... Dispersion. /argument The only thing that balances the Ascr vs the AR is the damage per bullet. If the damage per bullet were to be equal, than the AR would win by an even wider margin. AR>Ascr (in most situations, however the margins are still small)
GTA V FTW 186	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:55:00 - [57] - Quote LOL yet another old Dev epic failure only now being looked at by the Devs due to video proof. CCP = FPS noobs Meh, broke game will always be broke.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 314	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:16:00 - [58] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Spirolito wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 Is this normal? I dont know this gun but iI think this is another example of that. Correct me if im mistaken. At minute 8 he kills a Heavy like he was nothing. I can tap that fast with my finger and an original Sony controller. That in the video is some extremely good accuracy, though. Fast taping a mouse or a controller will create a RL recoil as your hand muscles flex.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1933	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:22:00 - [59] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: Spirolito wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 Is this normal? I dont know this gun but iI think this is another example of that. Correct me if im mistaken. At minute 8 he kills a Heavy like he was nothing. I can tap that fast with my finger and an original Sony controller. That in the video is some extremely good accuracy, though. Fast taping a mouse or a controller will create a RL recoil as your hand muscles flex. No ****, I mean I am sure I can get in a position to push a button really fast but I won't be hitting anything with it. What's funny about all this is I heard similar responses when everyone was using modded controllers with the TAC ARs. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 376	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:29:00 - [60] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: Spirolito wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8 Is this normal? I dont know this gun but iI think this is another example of that. Correct me if im mistaken. At minute 8 he kills a Heavy like he was nothing. I can tap that fast with my finger and an original Sony controller. That in the video is some extremely good accuracy, though. Fast taping a mouse or a controller will create a RL recoil as your hand muscles flex. Not to mention Carpal tunnel... Tech Guard Recruiting Spot



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