In a match about 20 minutes ago. Ran up to someone that was less skilled than I. We basically had the same HP and were using the Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle. . . he won the first bout, I won the second. And I won the third. Why and how did he win one but not the other? Because the AScR is more accurate with hip-firing than ADS. My placement of shots was less accurate when I didn't aim, but more shots hit. that is ridiculous.

Also, AScR has higher base damage, but lower rate of fire. Against armor the AScR is better than the AR because it is higher base damage lower RoF. Much like the Boundless SMG is better against shields than the Assault SMG.

This is where the OP-ness comes from.

I have been feeling the same way, the scope and range gives the ScR the advantage over the AR. What I said could be considered blasphemy in some circles, the die hard ScR users still say the AR is better. Not true by a mile, if this was true the AR numbers would be increasing instead the ScR numbers are increasing. Proof that a weapon is FOTM or OP is how many run to it and the ScR has the AR beat.

Also, AScR has higher base damage, but lower rate of fire. Against armor the AScR is better than the AR because it is higher base damage lower RoF. Much like the Boundless SMG is better against shields than the Assault SMG.

More range is a given since it is amarr laser like technology.

The current AR is Gallente. If you think about it.. The AR has been the most OP weapon through out all the builds. It's range is insane for Gallente blaster technology. Honestly it's nice seeing more diversity on the field than just AR everywhere.

Now, I use the imperial and I will say, it is very OP in 1v1s. That is why you want to catch the scrambler guy in 1v2 situation. Also don't challenge a scrambler at range... That'll get you killed. Even if you use an AR

As far as the ASCR goes, I think it sucks compared to regular AR. It feels like it has less range and more dispersion and recoil than the ARs. :/

But you cry about ARs. The SCR is very OP. It's just not OP because...you use it and don't want it nerfed like what you and others' crusade did to the AR.

I've been a SCR user since their release. They're the most balanced weapon in the game, so you can take your SCR is OP crap somewhere else and cry about it.

[quote=Aisha Ctarl...an overheat possibility on the ScR variant does not mean balance when player skill is applied, it merely keeps the noobs away.

^ This dude gets it

Do not think that this game is about having equal weapons.

Duvolle AR will shred u apart in close ranges, it is supposed to. Do not engage if you do not have the upper hand.

Imperial ScR will shred you apart in med-long ranges. Do not engage if you do not have the upper hand.

This is what makes Dust 514 the game it is. All weapons are better than others at specific tasks. It makes Dust 514 the thinking mans shooter IMO.

I just hate how the charge shot makes for a better alternative to the shotgun.

You know the guy is around the corner? Charge and spam. Works every time.

You are uttering common rhetoric that many others say that really doesn't make any kind of sense.

The AR is the jack of all trades. That's what assault rifle is, essentially. It's built upon that foundation as the common all around weapon for the infantry soldier.

In the real world, yes. This is game, in which the various weapons and elements need to have some balance among them to preserve the fun.

Anyway, the saying goes "Jack of all trades, master of none". Which means that added general utility will lower single-use case excellence.

Michael Arck - White knighting the AR since 2013.

We'll see how the other rifles compete when they're released, but with the ScR getting a range buff as well theres a high chance the ScR will remain king.
The ScRs usage has skyrocketed and is now almost as common as the vanilla AR while being EVEN better than the AR. Its an incredible feat to be sure seeing as how everyone also armor tanks. But the extremely effective hipfire, the INSANE damage output, the ease of use, the range, and the usefulness off both variants has shot the ScR straight to the top now that hit detection is decent. The ScR stacks great with dmg mods and prof, but is great even without them just like the AR. Due to it being able to instantly kill protos and heavies with ease at any range its effective(close,medium,and far) as well as having a range able to outclass ARs and most other weapons. This range is amazing as it covers the distance of many outdoors firefight hotspots that the AR falls just short of.

The ScRs effectiveness compared to the AR is still debatable, seeing as how the AR is many times more reliable without the overheat, but the assault variant of the ScR being so usable can be seen to remedy this while still maintaining extremely great damage output.
One things for sure, the ScR is competing with the AR for the top spot, and can possibly even be called better.

P.S. I've got 50k SP left til i get a skill i need, but afterwards I'm going straight ScR and prof. I already have prof 3 on ARs, as well as an alt with proto ScRs, and have used both plenty. In my personal opinion, the Imperial ScR is currently the best weapon in the game due to its range and ability to stack damage mods and prof better than the AR, while pumping out enough shots to down a tanked heavy in less than a second.

News just in: ScR is Amarr technology.

It is SUPPOSED to outclass the AR in range.

The AScR is still not as good as the regular AR.

Rei you are right about that aim issue. Some of us (bcases) just suck with regular gun game. No matter what skills / weapons we use. So we are lucky there are other weapons to use for ripping clones apart.

And BTW Rei Shepard we are having a kill a celebrity day today... so ... you are... kinda.. targeted

Yes, the majority does fail miserably at handling that weapon. It's a problem with those who know what they are doing with it.

And that is a "problem" how exactly? A weapon that is difficult to use should reward player skill. Not my or anyone else's fault that we know how to aim.

Your counter argument is completely invalid.

I've been a SCR user since their release. They're the most balanced weapon in the game, so you can take your SCR is OP crap somewhere else and cry about it.

And that is a "problem" how exactly? A weapon that is difficult to use should reward player skill. Not my or anyone else's fault that we know how to aim.

Your counter argument is completely invalid.

"Oh no! Someone killed me with a Scrambler, it's OP!"