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Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 154	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:57:00 - [1] - Quote Creates a person sized shield in front of the user. (Ya, I know deployable shield cover is coming, this is different) Random things about it Possibly replaces grenades (or a regular equipment slot, but used by holding square, this is better methinks) Just large enough to protect the user (and anyone behind them. BODYBLOCKED!) Will stay active for a set amount of time or until it has taken enough damage to break through Rechargeable Prevents sprinting but does not slow you down Prevents you from attacking Situations it would be useful in: When you find yourself out in the open with cover close by, but not close enough to get to (because they'll kill you first). When a logi revives you mid firefight but your a shield tanker When you're a logi and revive someone mid firefight but they're a shield tanker Gives scouts a little bit more survivability Using yourself as bait to let a Winmatar sneak around behind the enemy firing line with a shotty Getting enemies to focus fire on you then tanking them with this while your teammates can shoot unhindered Get stuck in a small room with a live grenade... or several, depending on how much they hate you Bodyblocking a door or hallway to give your team time to prepare Pissing off snipers Being the first person to breach a room Reason for it to be grenade and not equipment (I'd just like to point out, I generally don't like the whole "grenade replacement" thingy) It's a panic device, so you won't have time to use the weapon wheel so it'll need a one button way to activate it. (press O to enter vehicle, hold O to recall vehicle, press O to bring up shield...) (press O to revive, press O to bring up shield) revives are already messing up if your around a hackable objective Alternatively it could be brought up by holding square and staying up until you let go (hold), or until you hold square again to deactivate it (toggle) (or it will deactivate once the set time has passed or it breaks from too much damage)
501st Headstrong Svartur Bjorn 42	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:33:00 - [2] - Quote This is a Phenomenal idea! If you've watched the KillZone ShadowFall Multiplayer, they also have this, but I like that you can't fire with this. Too many ambushes degenerate to grenade spamming through doors on both sides until a God Heavy( 2000 health) storms through with a Boundless heavy And this would help PC. Would there be a Proto Level that allows for it be used Offensively, like a Shield detonation? That would be pretty sweet. Amazing work, I'm following this thread for sure! +1 The things I would do with a Proto Minmatar Assault Suit...Checks SP Hello Panda Bear!!!
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:52:00 - [3] - Quote Not quite like the KZ one. In Killzone once it's deployed it becomes stationary, the one I proposed is more like a riot shield (Modern Warfare series) or that shield thingy from Halo 4. (I don't play halo so I don't know it's name) I did think of one other variant too Wider shield allowing you to protect more friendlies (will have longer recharge time, shorter duration, less HP, I dunno, one of the three, but personally lean more towards longer cooldown for that one) Edit: I only saw the campaign trailers, so I don't know if the multiplayer one is different.
Oswald Rehnquist 567	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:59:00 - [4] - Quote Perhaps I skimmed through too quickly, but you have a logical problem If it is a riot shield, it should take up a (light) weapon slot, if it is stationary, then it could take up a grenade slot as you suggest Below 28 dB
Aseair Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:14:00 - [5] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Perhaps I skimmed through too quickly, but you have a logical problem If it is a riot shield, it should take up a (light) weapon slot, if it is stationary, then it could take up a grenade slot as you suggest I believe he means an energy shield. So a small device built into the hand (or along the forearm) would make perfect sense here. Oh, yeah, and I support this idea wholeheartedly Memento vos sunt immortales I am a scout. If you see me, I deserve to get shot.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 156	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:16:00 - [6] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Perhaps I skimmed through too quickly, but you have a logical problem If it is a riot shield, it should take up a (light) weapon slot, if it is stationary, then it could take up a grenade slot as you suggest Not a physical shield. A shield as in energy shield, like the ones our suits have. In my head I see it as being more the size and shape of a nanite injector or lightsaber that when you push the button, it forms a shield in front of you.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1530	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:17:00 - [7] - Quote Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Aseair Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:22:00 - [8] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. As much as I would love it, I think being able to shoot and be invulnerable at the same time might make it a little OP... On that note, does anyone have suggestions for stats on this thing? Memento vos sunt immortales I am a scout. If you see me, I deserve to get shot.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:24:00 - [9] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. Lol you won't be able to attack yourself, but you can shield friendlies as they use you as mobile cover. You're hands would be occupied holding the device. (well, one hand would be, I see it as the left arm coming across your chest with the device out) I picture the device (bare essentials only, devs can decide if it gets pretty lights or not) as a metal cylinder with a button on the top and the shield emitter on the bottom, your left arm comes across in front of you and holds the top towards you, with the bottom (and emitter) facing outwards, you push the button with your thumb, shield forms in front of you.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:25:00 - [10] - Quote Aseair wrote: On that note, does anyone have suggestions for stats on this thing? Was thinking about typing up stats for it, but decided to see if people just liked the raw idea first, would suck if i spent an hour typing stats and everyone hated it.

Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1530	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:32:00 - [11] - Quote Aseair wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. As much as I would love it, I think being able to shoot and be invulnerable at the same time might make it a little OP... On that note, does anyone have suggestions for stats on this thing? 2k HP seems good. But, with it active, it'll bring your turn speed and walk speed down to that of a old heavy. Outflank able, so just strafe around him, and blap his sides. Seems a bit less OP now I think. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1530	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:38:00 - [12] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. Lol you won't be able to attack yourself, but you can shield friendlies as they use you as mobile cover. You're hands would be occupied holding the device. (well, one hand would be, I see it as the left arm coming across your chest with the device out) I picture the device (bare essentials only, devs can decide if it gets pretty lights or not) as a metal cylinder with a button on the top and the shield emitter on the bottom, your left arm comes across in front of you and holds the top towards you, with the bottom (and emitter) facing outwards, you push the button with your thumb, shield forms in front of you. I could see it as a trowel, with the shield itself being purple ish (this game needs more colors) It can obscure the view of the wielder a bit with a purple tint, and it could be kinds inverted trapezoid shaped (the energy bit) with kinda halo style shield effects, where it looks kinda like flowing water) That's what I think the aesthetics could be. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:39:00 - [13] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Aseair wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. As much as I would love it, I think being able to shoot and be invulnerable at the same time might make it a little OP... On that note, does anyone have suggestions for stats on this thing? 2k HP seems good. But, with it active, it'll bring your turn speed and walk speed down to that of a old heavy. Outflank able, so just strafe around him, and blap his sides. Seems a bit less OP now I think. Lol when someone says "stats" they mean for each level. SO, going from your post the STD level shield has 2k HP? soooo what does the PRO have, 6k HP?
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1530	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:46:00 - [14] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Aseair wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Riot shield with ASMG out the sides FTW! The way you describe it seems ok as a light weapon like some have suggested. While it may be a cheap halo ripoff, I don't give a damn about that anymore. We need more cool ripoffs. As much as I would love it, I think being able to shoot and be invulnerable at the same time might make it a little OP... On that note, does anyone have suggestions for stats on this thing? 2k HP seems good. But, with it active, it'll bring your turn speed and walk speed down to that of a old heavy. Outflank able, so just strafe around him, and blap his sides. Seems a bit less OP now I think. Lol when someone says "stats" they mean for each level. SO, going from your post the STD level shield has 2k HP? soooo what does the PRO have, 6k HP? Considering the way things are scaled, proto would have something like 3k health, advance with 2.5. So yeah, this **** basically would be tougher then heavies, but with less firepower, slower turn speed, flankable, and requires you drop your primary. Looks balanced. I want to see squads walk down roads with these blapping anybody thinking that getting closer will save them For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Reno Pechieu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:17:00 - [15] - Quote Since I often play a logi, being able to create a shield so I can ress team mates would be a bless. So while IGÇÖm all for the idea in general, IGÇÖm am however skeptical about some properties. How much damage will it take and how long? Also, IGÇÖm not sure if itGÇÖs a bubble that IGÇÖm for making it mobile. Seems a bit OP, IGÇÖm more for making it protect if one direction If itGÇÖs a stationary, then IGÇÖm more for the bubble shield idea, although that could make it troublesome to exit a bad situation. The two secrets to be a good sadist: 1) Don't tell them everything you planned.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:31:00 - [16] - Quote Stats: (stats affected by the skill will have the number for level 5 in brackets [ ]) Standard: Recharge time: 30 seconds HP: 750 Maximum Duration: 5 seconds [6.25 seconds] Advanced: Recharge time: 20 seconds HP: 975 Maximum Duration:6 seconds[7.5 seconds] Prototype: Recharge time: 15 seconds HP: 1200 Maximum Duration: 8 seconds[10 seconds] Variants (these are working names): 'Hidden' shield does not appear (as in it's invisible) Suffers from decreased HP 'Shepherd' shield extends out to the sides as well, allowing you to protect multiple teammates (note: the shield morphs around/goes through obstacles in your path, so it won't stop your movement) Suffers from increased recharge time, and slower turn speed (don't want you turning so fast they aren't in cover anymore) 'Scepter' sends out pulses of shield energy at intervals, causing damage to enemies in the path in front of you Suffers from decreased duration, and increased signature profile while active Skill effect: Increases the Maximum Duration by 5% per level
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:32:00 - [17] - Quote While I was typing that another person posted stats, saying that it should have 2K HP at STD, 2.5 at ADV, and 3K at PRO and that it should slow turn speed. I disagree, this is not meant to turn any suit into something that out tanks a heavy. The PRO level of my stats gives just 320 less than a MLT Heavy Shield Extender (ya, the vehicle module (1520 HP)) This is meant to give infantry some quick breathing room during a fight or ambush (if they get caught with their pants down) As well as other tactical applications (see variants and think outside the box) There's another equipment that has already been confirmed, a deployable shield. (I'm assuming it's some kind of bubble shield from Halo or a shield wall type thing) That will most likely be the kind of tanky shield you want.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:33:00 - [18] - Quote Reno Pechieu wrote: Since I often play a logi, being able to create a shield so I can ress team mates would be a bless. So while IGÇÖm all for the idea in general, IGÇÖm am however skeptical about some properties. How much damage will it take and how long? Also, IGÇÖm not sure if itGÇÖs a bubble that IGÇÖm for making it mobile. Seems a bit OP, IGÇÖm more for making it protect if one direction If itGÇÖs a stationary, then IGÇÖm more for the bubble shield idea, although that could make it troublesome to exit a bad situation. The version we are discussing is directional and directly in front of the person using it.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:40:00 - [19] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: I could see it as a trowel So I just Google image searched "trowel"... what? How would that work? Is the shield coming out of the shovel like portion? How do you hold it? If it's sorta like mine then I'd say it looks more like a melee weapon. Some more details about mine: on the end with the emitter it sorta pops out like how nanohives do in the middle. The shield energy comes out the cylinder, hits that, and spreads outwards forming a shield in front of you since the thingy is stopping it from going forward. Edit: Q-Q-Quad post!
Aseair Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:41:00 - [20] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Stats: (stats affected by the skill will have the number for level 5 in brackets [ ]) Standard: Recharge time: 30 seconds HP: 750 Maximum Duration: 5 seconds [6.25 seconds] Advanced: Recharge time: 20 seconds HP: 975 Maximum Duration:6 seconds[7.5 seconds] Prototype: Recharge time: 15 seconds HP: 1200 Maximum Duration: 8 seconds[10 seconds] Variants (these are working names): 'Hidden' shield does not appear (as in it's invisible) Suffers from decreased HP 'Shepherd' shield extends out to the sides as well, allowing you to protect multiple teammates (note: the shield morphs around/goes through obstacles in your path, so it won't stop your movement) Suffers from increased recharge time, and slower turn speed (don't want you turning so fast they aren't in cover anymore) 'Scepter' sends out pulses of shield energy at intervals, causing damage to enemies in the path in front of you Suffers from decreased duration, and increased signature profile while active Skill effect: Increases the Maximum Duration by 5% per level Seems to be pretty good. Strong enough to survive a bit of 'nade spam, not stronger than a heavy. Not sure exactly what the purpose of 'Hidden' would be, though. Memento vos sunt immortales I am a scout. If you see me, I deserve to get shot.

Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:54:00 - [21] - Quote Aseair wrote: Seems to be pretty good. Strong enough to survive a bit of 'nade spam, not stronger than a heavy. Not sure exactly what the purpose of 'Hidden' would be, though. The shield is bright and colored right? It has multiple uses. Once people are used to seeing these they'll know to switch targets once a person pulls it up, Hidden stops them from noticing the color and brightness and since their firing, the muzzle flash might stop them from seeing the person hold the device. So they won't switch targets. If a scout gets into a fight with one other person on a mountainside and uses the shield it'd be like setting off a flair for all the enemy snipers to spot. See a group of enemies coming towards the compound you're in, there's a heavy frame, a medium frame, and a light frame. Most people would shoot the Light frame first, he goes down the fastest and he's most likely going to shotty you if he gets too close. So you're shooting him but you notice he doesn't die. Too late you realize he was baiting you with a 'Hidden' shield and that he was a distraction to let the other two get close enough to kill you. Average day in the life of a Blueberry. Enemy sniper somewhere but you don't know where. Send out someone using 'Hidden' shield to be a target. Sniper shoots, guy survives because of the shield. And now your team knows the location of the enemy sniper thanks to the bullet trail.
Aseair Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2013.11.15 04:22:00 - [22] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: If a scout gets into a fight with one other person on a mountainside and uses the shield it'd be like setting off a flair for all the enemy snipers to spot. See a group of enemies coming towards the compound you're in, there's a heavy frame, a medium frame, and a light frame. Most people would shoot the Light frame first, he goes down the fastest and he's most likely going to shotty you if he gets too close. So you're shooting him but you notice he doesn't die. Too late you realize he was baiting you with a 'Hidden' shield and that he was a distraction to let the other two get close enough to kill you. Average day in the life of a Blueberry. Enemy sniper somewhere but you don't know where. Send out someone using 'Hidden' shield to be a target. Sniper shoots, guy survives because of the shield. And now your team knows the location of the enemy sniper thanks to the bullet trail. I see...this would indeed be useful in a sniper fight to help find who you're trying to counter snipe by poking your head out with the shield up. Good idea. Memento vos sunt immortales I am a scout. If you see me, I deserve to get shot.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 378	Posted - 2013.11.15 04:44:00 - [23] - Quote I would love to see something like this linked to the available PG on the dropsut. It could be fitted to a suit that has even say 1 cpu and 1 PG but it would be nearly useless. On a suit with more it would grow in power and usability. For me and my normal sentinel suits it would have a good deal of available PG and cpu to power it. Then there should be a skill for the equipment this would affect its efficiency and how well it uses the available cpu and pg. This would make me want to play my heavy a lot more often. I could make small fire teams and lead the team through the door as a breach man without getting blown away by nearly every AR in the game. I wouldnt mind giving up grenades for this. Especially if this was activate with l2.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.11.15 05:08:00 - [24] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: I wouldnt mind giving up grenades for this. Especially if this was activate with l2. That was the sole purpose of having it replace grenades, you won't always be using this to breach, sometimes it'll be in panic after getting jumped or in the middle of a firefight, when you don't have time to go through the weapon wheel. We also looked at having it be a regular equipment but being activated by holding square. (sorta like how you can revive someone with O) I think I'm against having it be tied to PG and CPU, it might be fine on a Heavy, but on a Logi? Not enough left. Scout? Assault? I don't know about them for other people, but for me, the only fittings I have with any PG and CPU leftover are Heavies, everything else I fill as much as I can into them. (BPOs FTW) Perhaps another variant that utilizes the PG and CPU of the suit? The higher remaining PG and CPU in the fitting the more it adds, but if you don't have a good amount then it would be better off using the other version. But then this raises the issue: What if a Logistics suit with barely anything on it used this variant? It could have several thousand HP depending on how much PG and CPU = 1HP There would be even more Assault Logis than there are now. I was also thinking of one that once formed, will gradually reduce itself (so the shield is taking damage always) why would that be good? Because the energy from the shield is being transferred to your suit shield. So when activated this variant will start boosting your shields back up to full while it absorbs incoming damage and acts as a buffer while you recharge.
Reno Pechieu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.11.15 12:21:00 - [25] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I wouldnt mind giving up grenades for this. Especially if this was activate with l2. That was the sole purpose of having it replace grenades, you won't always be using this to breach, sometimes it'll be in panic after getting jumped or in the middle of a firefight, when you don't have time to go through the weapon wheel. We also looked at having it be a regular equipment but being activated by holding square. (sorta like how you can revive someone with O) I think I'm against having it be tied to PG and CPU, it might be fine on a Heavy, but on a Logi? Not enough left. Scout? Assault? I don't know about them for other people, but for me, the only fittings I have with any PG and CPU leftover are Heavies, everything else I fill as much as I can into them. (BPOs FTW) Perhaps another variant that utilizes the PG and CPU of the suit? The higher remaining PG and CPU in the fitting the more it adds, but if you don't have a good amount then it would be better off using the other version. But then this raises the issue: What if a Logistics suit with barely anything on it used this variant? It could have several thousand HP depending on how much PG and CPU = 1HP There would be even more Assault Logis than there are now. I was also thinking of one that once formed, will gradually reduce itself (so the shield is taking damage always) why would that be good? Because the energy from the shield is being transferred to your suit shield. So when activated this variant will start boosting your shields back up to full while it absorbs incoming damage and acts as a buffer while you recharge. Would that imply that it takes from your own personal shield? Also, would this mean that suits with shield buffs get more out of this? And lastly; if the developers insist on it being either a sidearm or equipment, a option could be made to make the quick weapon-swap change between two items of your own choice. So, most would then select their main weapon and this. The two secrets to be a good sadist: 1) Don't tell them everything you planned.
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 126	Posted - 2013.11.15 13:49:00 - [26] - Quote if anyone play mass effect 3's MP they had a shield guy... except he couldnt move when he used his shield lol. anyways it worked like this, you could use it when ever you wanted for as long as you wanted, but you couldnt shoot. The shield itself had a HP value of a few thousand hit points. as the shield took damage it would change color towards red until it reached zero HP. At zero HP the shields broke/shattered stunning its user for a few seconds. for dust 514, i think we should be able to move around with the shield AND be able to use a side arm, but you cant ADS and movement should be reduced to walking. (same speed as when ADS) because of the obvious point and function of having a shield like this, it should be able to handle prolonged or focused fire. to do this, the shield would need several thousand HPs std shield: 3k HP adv shield: 6k pro shield: 9k now before anyone says thats op, energy weapons should work against them (flux grenades, laser rifles, scrambler pistol/rifle) and do increased damage. so anyone could easily flux the crap out of a shield user. also, when the shields HP reaches zero, it breaks and stuns the user for 3 seconds. While stunned, the user cannot move, shoot, switch weapons, or do anything else. (so you could flux a shield user and then kill him after his shield breaks and he's stunned) the shield would naturally be resistant against explosive weapons! (mass drivers, locus grenades) I could see the shield being very useful in breaching rooms or choke points (where locus grenades and mass drivers seem to be common), without being OP in open environments. the inabilty to ADS hinders the shield user accuracy in ranged combat, while a 3 second stun mechanic ensures that he is truly "taking one for the team" add in wp for taking damage also. th wp's gain should increase as the user take continuous damage (starting at 1 wp for taking damage and increasing to no more than 5 wp a second) and yea... it should take up a light weapon slot.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:39:00 - [27] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: if anyone play mass effect 3's MP they had a shield guy... except he couldnt move when he used his shield lol. anyways it worked like this, you could use it when ever you wanted for as long as you wanted, but you couldnt shoot. The shield itself had a HP value of a few thousand hit points. as the shield took damage it would change color towards red until it reached zero HP. At zero HP the shields broke/shattered stunning its user for a few seconds. for dust 514, i think we should be able to move around with the shield AND be able to use a side arm, but you cant ADS and movement should be reduced to walking. (same speed as when ADS) because of the obvious point and function of having a shield like this, it should be able to handle prolonged or focused fire. to do this, the shield would need several thousand HPs std shield: 3k HP adv shield: 6k pro shield: 9k now before anyone says thats op, energy weapons should work against them (flux grenades, laser rifles, scrambler pistol/rifle) and do increased damage. so anyone could easily flux the crap out of a shield user. also, when the shields HP reaches zero, it breaks and stuns the user for 3 seconds. While stunned, the user cannot move, shoot, switch weapons, or do anything else. (so you could flux a shield user and then kill him after his shield breaks and he's stunned) the shield would naturally be resistant against explosive weapons! (mass drivers, locus grenades) I could see the shield being very useful in breaching rooms or choke points (where locus grenades and mass drivers seem to be common), without being OP in open environments. the inabilty to ADS hinders the shield user accuracy in ranged combat, while a 3 second stun mechanic ensures that he is truly "taking one for the team" add in wp for taking damage also. th wp's gain should increase as the user take continuous damage (starting at 1 wp for taking damage and increasing to no more than 5 wp a second) and yea... it should take up a light weapon slot. I can't tell if you're a troll or just have a very strange sense of balance... Several points against you: The average total HP of tanks that I've seen is about 5-7k. Now think about an infantry shield with 9k HP... Now add on a weapon to that, imagine a Minmatar Assault (skill gets additional sidearm clip size) with a PRO ASMG in CQC with damage mods and all skills relating to SMGs maxed. The point of this shield is not to absorb focused fire for extended periods, but only a few seconds. It's not meant to turn anyone into a tank (there is another equipment (a deployable shield) that is meant for taking focused fire and has already been confirmed) Taking up a light weapon slot would turn almost all away except for Commando suit users. 3 second stun would turn away a good portion of those Commando users Explosive weapons already do decreased damage to shields and increased damage to armor. Energy weapons already do increased damage to shields and decreased damage to armor. Only even halfway decent thing is the WP for taking damage.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1420	Posted - 2013.11.15 21:17:00 - [28] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Creates a person sized shield in front of the user. (Ya, I know deployable shield cover is coming, this is different) Random things about it Two ways to use it: 1. Possibly replaces grenades (2. or a regular equipment slot, but used by holding square, this is better methinks) Just large enough to protect the user (and anyone behind them. BODYBLOCKED!) Will stay active for a set amount of time or until it has taken enough damage to break through Rechargeable Prevents sprinting but does not slow you down Prevents you from attacking Situations it would be useful in: When you find yourself out in the open with cover close by, but not close enough to get to (because they'll kill you first). When a logi revives you mid firefight but your a shield tanker When you're a logi and revive someone mid firefight but they're a shield tanker Gives scouts a little bit more survivability Using yourself as bait to let a Winmatar sneak around behind the enemy firing line with a shotty Getting enemies to focus fire on you then tanking them with this while your teammates can shoot unhindered Get stuck in a small room with a live grenade... or several, depending on how much they hate you Bodyblocking a door or hallway to give your team time to prepare Pissing off snipers Being the first person to breach a room Reason for it to be grenade and not equipment (I'd just like to point out, I generally don't like the whole "grenade replacement" thingy) It's a panic device, so you won't have time to use the weapon wheel so it'll need a one button way to activate it. (press O to enter vehicle, hold O to recall vehicle, press O to bring up shield...) (press O to revive, press O to bring up shield) revives are already messing up if your around a hackable objective Alternatively it could be brought up by holding square and staying up until you let go (hold), or until you hold square again to deactivate it (toggle) (or it will deactivate once the set time has passed or it breaks from too much damage) Stats are here. This sounds the it would be better as an active module with a cool down for if we ever get active suit mods. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1420	Posted - 2013.11.15 21:20:00 - [29] - Quote The current mods could be considered passive and in future we could get active mods, obviously like tanks, using an active mod sacrifices passive gains. I'm sure that's been mentioned actually. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 161	Posted - 2013.11.15 21:40:00 - [30] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: The current mods could be considered passive and in future we could get active mods, obviously like tanks, using an active mod sacrifices passive gains. I'm sure that's been mentioned actually. TechMechMeds wrote: This sounds the it would be better as an active module with a cool down for if we ever get active suit mods. I thought of active modules a long time ago but ran into an issue: How would you activate them? >.> Just how many buttons does your controller have? We'd need another menu wheel. I think it's better as an equipment, but I can see how some people could see it as an active module. Edit: If you check the stats post you'll see that it does have a cooldown

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 813	Posted - 2013.11.16 00:15:00 - [31] - Quote First of all, I love this idea! It using a grenade slot is a great idea so it can be easily accessed. It would be wrist mounted like a buckler and once activated won't deactivate until its time runs out, or the shield is compromised, so you can't turn it on and off at will, you have to commit. Number stuff: Militia Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 1950 Active Time/ 5 seconds Recharge Time/ 15 seconds Protection Angle/ 65-¦ Movement Penalty/ 50% speed CPU/ 30 PG/ 4 Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 1950 Active Time/ 7 seconds Recharge Time/ 15 seconds Protection Angle/ 70-¦ Movement Penalty/ 50% speed CPU/ 25 PG/ 3 KRD-43 Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 2250 Active Time/ 7 seconds Recharge Time/ 12.5 seconds Protection Angle/ 80-¦ Movement Penalty/ 50% speed CPU/ 42 PG/ 8 IDF-73 Breach Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 3375 Active Time/ 4 seconds Recharge Time/ 15 seconds Protection Angle/ 100-¦ Movement Penalty/ 40% speed CPU/ 45 PG/ 9 Kaaliakota Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 2550 Active Time/ 7 Seconds Recharge Time/ 10 seconds Protection Angle/ 90-¦ Movement Penalty/ 50% speed CPU/ 85 PG/ 17 Ishukone Breach Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 3825 Active Time/ 4 Seconds Recharge Time/ 12.5 seconds Protection Angle/ 110-¦ Movement Penalty/ 40% speed CPU/ 91 PG/ 19 Kaaliakota Assault Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 1100 Active Time/ 7 Seconds Recharge Time/ 5 seconds Protection Angle/ 60-¦ Movement Penalty/ none CPU/ 85 PG/ 17 Other Info: Grenades bounce off of their surface. Sprinting, hacking, meleeing, and firing weapons are disabled while shield is active. For all shields: If you can see your enemy with the shield active, you are safe. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 161	Posted - 2013.11.16 01:38:00 - [32] - Quote Why are some people giving it several thousand HP? There are two versions of shield equipment (hopefully including this one, otherwise just one) Deployable shield Creates deployable cover. Been confirmed but no details were given beyond that (that I remember). From my understanding it's a bubble shield or wall shield type thing that is placed on the ground (For protecting groups of mercs \| will have high HP because of this) Personal Shield Merc uses a small device to create a shield wall just large enough to protect them from fire, shield wall is attached to the device which, since the merc is holding it, moves with the merc and is always kept in front of them. (For a single soldier who needs to be a bit tougher for a few moments \| will give a good boost to defense, but is not meant to make them indestructible) Allow me to point out some factors so that people will think about them when posting stats. Recharge Time: Fizzer94 wrote: Kaaliakota Assault Personal Shield Shield Hit Points/ 1100 Active Time/ 7 Seconds Recharge Time/ 5 seconds Protection Angle/ 60-¦ Movement Penalty/ none CPU/ 85 PG/ 17 Remember when making recharge times: The second it's done recharging the merc can use it again. So a 5 second recharge on a 1100 HP shield, imagine a dropsuit with that stat. A good chunk of firefights last longer than that, so a merc could use it at the start, the enemy uses their ammo attempting to break it and is now empty as it goes onto cooldown, with the user now armed. If the merc with the shield starts to fear for his life at any point in the fight he can just put the shield up again. Invulnerable. HP: DeathwindRising wrote: std shield: 3k HP adv shield: 6k pro shield: 9k Scale it with other things in mind, It should not give infantry comparable(or more) HP to that of a tank. The deployable cover mentioned earlier might, but that covers an area and must be deployed with the carrier only having a limited supply, this protectes one merc and recharges. Merc behavior Keep in mind that due to the nature of the game, things will be used for purposes other than the intended one, try to think as much outside the box as you can when trying to balance it. I'm fairly certain if you had 9k HP on top of your normal HP you could potentially survive an OB. I've never checked how much damage I take per blast, but I can survive one blast in a suit with about 400 total HP, so I'm fairly certain the only thing that would stop you is being too slow on turning to the blasts. As it stands with my PRO level having 1200 HP you would still be able to survive a direct hit from a Large STD Railgun, just let that sink in. The only problem I've seen with the 1200 HP shield is that's the exact amount of damage one STD Flux Grenade does. I'd forgotten to account for Flux Grenades since I hardly ever see them. So a slight increase might be due, but not by much. (or give it a damage reduction on all kinds of damage, which at first glance, I think might be better) (Note: Energy weapons would still do increased damage to it, but not as much as without the resistances)
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 161	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:34:00 - [33] - Quote Reno Pechieu wrote: Ecshon Autorez wrote: I was also thinking of one that once formed, will gradually reduce itself (so the shield is taking damage always) why would that be good? Because the energy from the shield is being transferred to your suit shield. So when activated this variant will start boosting your shields back up to full while it absorbs incoming damage and acts as a buffer while you recharge. Would that imply that it takes from your own personal shield? Also, would this mean that suits with shield buffs get more out of this? And lastly; if the developers insist on it being either a sidearm or equipment, a option could be made to make the quick weapon-swap change between two items of your own choice. So, most would then select their main weapon and this. I added two new variants to my stat post: 'Aegis' and 'Siphon'. To extend what 'Siphon' does: It starts at a set HP like all shields do. All other shields only lose HP when being damaged, 'Siphon' will transfer its own HP to your shields, recharging them till you're at full, or it's empty. So the shield itself acts as a buffer, preventing you from receiving damage, while you are recharging your dropsuit shields, but the transfer is not instant, it does it slow, like say, 30 HP/s, so if the shield is destroyed fast then you won't regain as much dropsuit shields as if it had lasted the full duration.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 224	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:57:00 - [34] - Quote With the addition of the 1.8 Sentinel bonuses granting damage resistances these shields can now be changed to prevent the PRO shield from being 1 hit by a STD Flux. Give the shields a damage resistance to EM or just to all damage, but more on EM. I'll be going back and seeing if I can fit that into the stats, not sure if it should be a bonus from the skill or just all shields get it on their own. Recruiter Link thread
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1152	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:45:00 - [35] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: Summary Creates a person sized energy shield in front of the user. (Ya, I know deployable shield cover is coming, this is different) Random things about it Two ways to use it: 1. a regular equipment slot, but used by holding square (2. Possibly replaces grenades) (I prefer 1) Just large enough to protect the user (and anyone behind them. BODYBLOCKED!) Will stay active for a set amount of time or until it has taken enough damage to break through Rechargeable Prevents sprinting but does not slow you down Prevents you from attacking Situations it would be useful in: When you find yourself out in the open with cover close by, but not close enough to get to (because they'll kill you first). When a logi revives you mid firefight but your a shield tanker When you're a logi and revive someone mid firefight but they're a shield tanker Gives scouts a little bit more survivability Using yourself as bait to let a Winmatar sneak around behind the enemy firing line with a shotty Getting enemies to focus fire on you then tanking them with this while your teammates can shoot unhindered Get stuck in a small room with a live grenade... or several, depending on how much they hate you Bodyblocking a door or hallway to give your team time to prepare Pissing off snipers Being the first person to breach a room Reason for it to be a grenade and not equipment (I'd just like to point out, I generally don't like the whole "grenade replacement" thingy) It's a panic device, so you won't have time to use the weapon wheel so it'll need a one button way to activate it. (press O to enter vehicle, hold O to recall vehicle, press O to bring up shield...) (press O to revive, press O to bring up shield) revives are already messing up if your around a hackable objective Alternatively it could be brought up by holding square and staying up until you let go (hold), or until you hold square again to deactivate it (toggle) (or it will deactivate once the set time has passed or it breaks from too much damage) Variants and stats are in post #16. Yes yes yes yes, and good a heavy can use it, all we need is a slight hmg dps nerf and mmm the taste of excellent ideas everybody would love... I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1152	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:52:00 - [36] - Quote Aseair wrote: Ecshon Autorez wrote: Stats: (stats affected by the skill will have the number for level 5 in brackets [ ]) Standard: Recharge time: 30 seconds HP: 750 Maximum Duration: 5 seconds [6.25 seconds] Advanced: Recharge time: 20 seconds HP: 975 Maximum Duration:6 seconds[7.5 seconds] Prototype: Recharge time: 15 seconds HP: 1200 Maximum Duration: 8 seconds[10 seconds] Variants (these are working names): 'Hidden' shield does not appear (as in it's invisible) Suffers from decreased HP 'Shepherd' shield extends out to the sides as well, allowing you to protect multiple teammates (note: the shield morphs around/goes through obstacles in your path, so it won't stop your movement) Suffers from increased recharge time, and slower turn speed (don't want you turning so fast they aren't in cover anymore) 'Scepter' sends out pulses of shield energy at intervals, causing damage to enemies in the path in front of you Suffers from decreased duration, and increased signature profile while active Skill effect: Increases the Maximum Duration by 5% per level Seems to be pretty good. Strong enough to survive a bit of 'nade spam, not stronger than a heavy. Not sure exactly what the purpose of 'Hidden' would be, though. To get them to fire on you and not teamates or trick them. I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1240	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:05:00 - [37] - Quote Let me guess, you really enjoy playing Halo? Am I right or am I right? And so it goes.
Ecshon Autorez Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2014.04.23 07:09:00 - [38] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Let me guess, you really enjoy playing Halo? Am I right or am I right? I actually dislike Halo. I only enjoy Forge and I don't own an Xbox. I can only play if I'm with a friend who has it. Recruiter Link thread
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 160	Posted - 2014.04.23 11:32:00 - [39] - Quote your not the first to think of this, my original post was in the my dust section & i doubt i was the first either, the only reason i bring it up is because https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1763558#post1763558 i made a design for one. Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1244	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:09:00 - [40] - Quote Ecshon Autorez wrote: I actually dislike Halo. I only enjoy Forge and I don't own an Xbox. I can only play if I'm with a friend who has it. Well, your idea looks very much like Halo features. From several years ago. And as been just commented here has been suggested before, repeatedly. Actually much before the other one. At least over a year ago. And so it goes.



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