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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:47:00 -
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Just showed my best bud that iv known since I was 6 years old dust.
He said it looks very good but what's the point? I explained pc which he said sounded great, and fw. Then told him the downside , that being the lag and spineless mechanics that benefit scrubs in pc, I will not lie to him and say its great sorry.
He laughed and stated that MAYBE if pc wasn't fked he'd GIVE IT A GO, I also showed him 3 matches and his opinion was ''fk that its just like halo'
Something needs to change, most of that can be found on the forums but I don't think you pay attention to it as much as you should.
When I showed him the suit customisation he was enthralled, he loved everything, corps, corp themes, skills, everything but when he saw the gameplay he was let down and I askedd him if he'd play with me and he said no, even after offering to buy him a ps3 for Xmas.
A lot of the answers to fix dust are on the forums, after a few beers I CBA to suggest things, iv done enough of that. I just thought I'd share an experienced gamers opinion of dust with you. He's 26 just like me so he has a pallet for good gasmes.
He called me an idiot for playing on a pipe dream but I have faith in you CCP, I just thought a complete outside perspective bit of feedback might help somehow, derp a derp I'm drunk.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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jin foxdale
Jedi Slime.
84
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:49:00 -
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Did he actually play any DUST? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:58:00 -
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I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people 
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1315
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:58:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST?
I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg.
Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches.
I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1315
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:21:00 -
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Bump.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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jin foxdale
Jedi Slime.
84
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:24:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does.
But how much can he know about a game without playing it? Watching someone play and actually experiencing it are two different things. What if he had looked at the specialization, corp stuff, fittings etc and told he thought it looked rubbish, but then had a five minute ambush match and thought DUST was the best game ever?
I'm not dissing your friend, but his opinion as an outsider seems somewhat flawed, having had no experience of playing the game.
I think chocolate bars look like little poos, but I still eat them! |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
419
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:40:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people
Yeah but what attracted me to this MMOFPS when I previously avoided them like the plague is that there is supposed to be more of a point to this game. We are supposed to be fighting to capture our own little corner of New Eden, however, with lack of Eve connection and PC that is lack luster (to put it nicely) we aren't there yet. But still I grind away hoping that we get there one day. |
GTA V FTW
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people
Yeah but this is a MMO and then a FPS, right?
CCP = FPS noobs
Meh, broke game will always be broke.
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
348
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:47:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does.
While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself.
If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it.  |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1316
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:42:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does. While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself. If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it.
Hahaha you completely miss the whole point, 20 hours or even 6 months wouldn't have changed his opinion, dusts social side isn't enough, maybe re read my two posts mate. I love dust but you can polish a t u r d all you want, its still a t u r d to new players.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1316
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:43:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people Yeah but what attracted me to this MMOFPS when I previously avoided them like the plague is that there is supposed to be more of a point to this game. We are supposed to be fighting to capture our own little corner of New Eden, however, with lack of Eve connection and PC that is lack luster (to put it nicely) we aren't there yet. But still I grind away hoping that we get there one day.
This, someone gets it.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1316
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:47:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does. But how much can he know about a game without playing it? Watching someone play and actually experiencing it are two different things. What if he had looked at the specialization, corp stuff, fittings etc and told he thought it looked rubbish, but then had a five minute ambush match and thought DUST was the best game ever? I'm not dissing your friend, but his opinion as an outsider seems somewhat flawed, having had no experience of playing the game. I think chocolate bars look like little poos, but I still eat them!
Did you even fking read my two posts? There is no what if.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1025
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:51:00 -
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My bother said the same thing about dust.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
349
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:58:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does. While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself. If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it. Hahaha you completely miss the whole point, 20 hours or even 6 months wouldn't have changed his opinion, dusts social side isn't enough, maybe re read my two posts mate. I love dust but you can polish a t u r d all you want, its still a t u r d to new players.
Lol. Your two posts mention nothing about social interaction. You specifically said he wasn't interested in the gameplay. He didn't play the game. What the **** does he know? |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:06:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does. While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself. If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it. Hahaha you completely miss the whole point, 20 hours or even 6 months wouldn't have changed his opinion, dusts social side isn't enough, maybe re read my two posts mate. I love dust but you can polish a t u r d all you want, its still a t u r d to new players. Lol. Your two posts mention nothing about social interaction. You specifically said he wasn't interested in the gameplay. He didn't play the game. What the **** does he know?
Dust is far from unique in being a social game, he probably knows better than you seen as you just don't get it, I'd advise to to read my posts again, maybe just maybe it will sink in.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1172
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:20:00 -
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My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4986
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:25:00 -
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This is why I restrained myself from offering the game to my friends. I know this game is incomplete and is a work in progress so showing this game to a friend is a bad idea especially if that person is not use to how CCP does their projects. Once most of the core features are finished I'll be ready to talk to my friends about it.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:34:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games.
My friend knows about dust, he's researched it for months, take into consideration the hour and a half I spent showing him every aspect of it and the gameplay, all I can say is he thinks I'm being a idiot for clinging to the vision of dust, the social aspect can be found in many many games, to an experienced players its a given.
When he saw the merc quartets for instance, he said in a joking manner 'so this is what stops you feeling like your in a lobby' all I could say was yes.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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jin foxdale
Jedi Slime.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:36:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games.
both relevant opinions, as both had played the game. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This is why I restrained myself from offering the game to my friends. I know this game is incomplete and is a work in progress so showing this game to a friend is a bad idea especially if that person is not use to how CCP does their projects. Once most of the core features are finished I'll be ready to talk to my friends about it.
I wish I'd done the same, I have 21 million sp so he really got to see how bland the game is even at this level.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:39:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Did he actually play any DUST? I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg. Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches. I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does. While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself. If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it. Hahaha you completely miss the whole point, 20 hours or even 6 months wouldn't have changed his opinion, dusts social side isn't enough, maybe re read my two posts mate. I love dust but you can polish a t u r d all you want, its still a t u r d to new players. Lol. Your two posts mention nothing about social interaction. You specifically said he wasn't interested in the gameplay. He didn't play the game. What the **** does he know?
Again, your a fool if you think social interaction is unique to dust.
Edit- in fact calling you a fool is credit, can you even fking read lo!.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
313
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:41:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games. both relevant opinions, as both had played the game.
Well people sure do die fast enough now. Maybe he should give it another go.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1772
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:46:00 -
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While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?
Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.
And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:49:00 -
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Regardless of dumb noobcake replies who can't read, hope you read this CCP, my mate was excited about dust.
Goode points all stated within two posts including bad points, can't make it any simpler, I'll carry on playing though in the hope of what we want dust to be.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:50:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?
Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.
And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink
Nice assumption, try Atari and doom 95. Can you read?
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:53:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?
Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.
And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink
Just read the two post again man, are you that special? Seriously.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1772
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:55:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Michael Arck wrote:While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?
Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.
And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink
Nice assumption, try Atari and doom 95. Can you read?
Can you? Can you think outside of yourself for a second?
When I read your post about your friend's experience, it had me thinking about the experience as a whole for any player. Which opened up the door for my semi rant. The only thing about my post that was a comment to yours, was about the Halo comparison.
Other than that, I just dropped my two cents about the experience now with Dust. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1772
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:56:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Michael Arck wrote:While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?
Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.
And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink
Just read the two post again man, are you that special? Seriously.
what the **** is your deal man? You're a ******* dumb ass. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1318
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:57:00 -
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In fact the crazy thing is iv had some to drink yet I'm having to explain to sober neckbeards where they can't understand simple English, are you fking kidding me lol.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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jin foxdale
Jedi Slime.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:58:00 -
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He said in the OP he's drunk. I believe him. |
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