Did he actually play any DUST?

I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg.

Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches.

I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does.

I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people

I thought the point of DUST514 was identical to every FPS known to man; to shoot other people

I spent an hour and a half showing him cusdtomisation , skills, corps , corp themes, explaining eve, alliances, meta game,eve interaction lol, pc mechanics, the works, literally everythinbg.

Its all great but the gameplay let him down and they were good matches.

I played 3 good skirmishes and I'm a logi so he saw more than just killing, I offered him a go and he wasn't interested, everything is great except the gameplay. Personally I love dust like a fool but it has to change somehow, I don't know how at the mo but it does.

While it's true that Dust is far from perfect, you can't judge a book by it's cover. In fact, you can't even judge a book by the first chapter. You have to dig into it, and experience it for yourself.

If he had put in 20+ hours, then gave his feedback, his opinion might be worth something. Until then, it's uniformed rubbish. If he didn't want to play, fine, but don't tell me a game sucks or is pointless if you've never played it.

Yeah but what attracted me to this MMOFPS when I previously avoided them like the plague is that there is supposed to be more of a point to this game. We are supposed to be fighting to capture our own little corner of New Eden, however, with lack of Eve connection and PC that is lack luster (to put it nicely) we aren't there yet. But still I grind away hoping that we get there one day.

But how much can he know about a game without playing it? Watching someone play and actually experiencing it are two different things. What if he had looked at the specialization, corp stuff, fittings etc and told he thought it looked rubbish, but then had a five minute ambush match and thought DUST was the best game ever?

I'm not dissing your friend, but his opinion as an outsider seems somewhat flawed, having had no experience of playing the game.

I think chocolate bars look like little poos, but I still eat them!

Hahaha you completely miss the whole point, 20 hours or even 6 months wouldn't have changed his opinion, dusts social side isn't enough, maybe re read my two posts mate. I love dust but you can polish a t u r d all you want, its still a t u r d to new players.

Lol. Your two posts mention nothing about social interaction. You specifically said he wasn't interested in the gameplay. He didn't play the game. What the **** does he know?

My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games.

My son said he didn't like having to shoot everyone in the head to kill them, my friends said it was ugly, had too many choices and people didn't die fast enough. Both like twitch games.

This is why I restrained myself from offering the game to my friends. I know this game is incomplete and is a work in progress so showing this game to a friend is a bad idea especially if that person is not use to how CCP does their projects. Once most of the core features are finished I'll be ready to talk to my friends about it.

Lol. Your two posts mention nothing about social interaction. You specifically said he wasn't interested in the gameplay. He didn't play the game. What the **** does he know?

both relevant opinions, as both had played the game.

While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?

Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.

And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink

While your friend is welcomed to his opinion, when someone says "It looks just like Halo", I roll my eyes. I mean, I know that's your first FPS and all but really, Halo? That's all your FPS experience can come up with, Halo?

Honestly, its a little up in the air at the moment. There's a significant amount of players who left. Ahem, let me rephrase that. There's a significant amount of intelligent players who left. Leaving the last good players with dumb blueberries. You can't even have solo ISK farming runs thanks to Nyain San and the protos on Ambush.

And for the love of god, please stop dropping uplinks down on Ambush!! It's stupid and does nothing, really, to assist the team. You are just creating bonafide spawn camp locations. CCP should give you the option to spawn on their regular spawn points if you don't want to spawn on a dropped uplink

Nice assumption, try Atari and doom 95. Can you read?

Just read the two post again man, are you that special? Seriously.

what the **** is your deal man? You're a ******* dumb ass.

But how much can he know about a game without playing it? Watching someone play and actually experiencing it are two different things. What if he had looked at the specialization, corp stuff, fittings etc and told he thought it looked rubbish, but then had a five minute ambush match and thought DUST was the best game ever?

I'm not dissing your friend, but his opinion as an outsider seems somewhat flawed, having had no experience of playing the game.

I think chocolate bars look like little poos, but I still eat them!

His opinion as an outsider is valid. And i'm sure MANY others feel the same way. If a game doesn't look fun, people won't bother to play it. It's a simple fact that HAS to be taken into account.

I have to agree with him. An outsider's view is important after all. When you look at a game nowadays, what's the first thing you look at? You see if it's your cup of tea. Often times that means trying it out but other times it involves watching others try it out.

For example:

My friend lend me copy of Defiance back when it first released, which was about near the end of last year I believe. After spending a good hour trying it out, exploring the terrain, looking at the graphics, the interface, the customization, the mechanics, the whole setup, etc. I decided that I didn't like it and then gave the copy back to my friend.

The graphics were terrible, but I would have let that part slide had it not been for the awkward mechanics (such as the running) and extremely-dumb AI that I was up against. Much of it felt far too linear and I didn't like the control layout.

Of course, I didn't have any understanding on what the developers were trying to achieve and I didn't know anything about the developers themselves. That's also why I stuck with Dust 514 because I have known the developers since 2008 and I have seen how they operated and what their goals are. I have also experienced the culture of Eve Online which obviously had direct influence on my decision there.

Just like the OP, I have some friends who may see me as foolish for having faith in this game, but thankfully I have the patience of a Buddhist Monk and it takes a lot for me to convince me otherwise. Of course, there were a couple of instances where CCP nearly got that far. Most notably this week with the nova knife screw up (waiting for that hot fix).

Can you? Can you think outside of yourself for a second?

When I read your post about your friend's experience, it had me thinking about the experience as a whole for any player. Which opened up the door for my semi rant. The only thing about my post that was a comment to yours, was about the Halo comparison.

Other than that, I just dropped my two cents about the experience now with Dust.