If you can't beat it with an AR you beat it with the forums

-Art of Dust

If your crutch is needs a nerf, blame AR users.

-Art of Dust 2.0

I don't read 2.0, too many typos

Haha thanks. We're a minmatar faction warfare alliance. Our overlords are Eve guys.

Yes it's annoying. but one of Dust interest is that you should be able to have a lot of different tactics. And as much counters as possible among your corpmates. So the "take higher ground and use forge gun tactic" doesnt represent an issue. As long as you can counter it (sniper ? DS to get the guy out of position)

Now, the uplink spam is a lot more annoying. It kills the purpose of the uplinks by making them a spam tactic. It clots (cloats ? ) the UI and also seems to cause performance issues. As for a counter, there aint much except spamming yourself. Also, i think pretty much everyone is ok with stopping this.

Snipers are an underwhelming counter given the sheer EHP of heavy suits, which can be augmented with triage hives.

By logis, I assume you mean spam uplinks back? Logis can't counter these things directly, only do it themselves. Something that can only be countered by another version of it is poor balance.

And dropship pilots... Are you seriously suggesting flying a dropship directly at a forge gunner? Have you ever tried to go after a forge gunner with a dropship?

I don't read 2.0, too many typos

A single player locking down an entire point and the surrounding area with the only way to take him down is using excessive force like orbitals = valid tactic?
Excuse me but what ISN'T a valid tactic?

First off, I beleive that a future patch mentioned reducing the splash radius significantly for the FG's to counter a lot of this problem.

Second, I have to agree that if players can find an advantage in terrain or otherwise, then it is a valid tactic. That's what your brain is there to be used for, so stop complaining about another's ingenuity and start thinking of either how you can use the same for your advantage or ways to counter it.

To counter lots of equipment spamage (ie. drop uplinks) I use flux grenades. They get rid of them fast. Additionaly, if you have EVE support, an EM strike from small projectile guns in EVE has the LARGEST blast radius for an orbital and will also eliminate all uplinks just like a flux grenade does. What's more fun is it won't kill anyone as it only gets rid of shields, so if you are defending an objective you can call this one down on yourself and it eliminates all the enemy's nearby spawn points.

As for stuff hanging out on top of towers, again use your orbital strikes.

Such an irrelevant post ... You realize that english is a second language to many of these gamers, right? Kudos to them for being able to learn a second language.

Fun fact:
I am self taught, I didn't have a teacher until 7th grade and by that time I didn't even need one.
Whatever mistakes I make comes from me either rushing the post, or being tired. (Which I currently am, and I won't be surprised if I will have mistakes here)

A single player locking down an entire point and the surrounding area with the only way to take him down is using excessive force like orbitals = valid tactic?
Excuse me but what ISN'T a valid tactic?

For me, the problem with Dust is that it doesn't encourage diversity. I imagine that this at the very least will get a strong rebuttal by other Ahrendee member.

So a forge gunner with logi support gets onto a high point and shoots down. I'm primarily a Sniper and secondarily a mass driver logi support. As a Sniper I've killed lots of such players. The difference is I can shoot the forge gunner and others while he has to hide and rep up or respawn, costing them a clone. If the gunner has logi support then I'm occupying two players of the opposition team. But the preference is for front line troops with arwin, not diversity.

Historically whoever has high ground has an advantage, not the advantage. Have you seen Braveheart... years of standard military practice overcome because somebody thought differently. CCP should be having to rebalance and add and nerf as we evolve new strategies, but my preference is to not nerf too much.

So an EMP orbital is a massive use of force to counter these crutches? No. It's somebody thinking of something different, congratulations for thinking of it. Eve wouldn't be the game it is (with its many faults!) If the players didn't keep evolving tactic. Just look up a Rooks and Kings video on YouTube to see them using innovative tactics, or read about Pandemic Legion creatingthe new fleet doctrines that the rest of Eve follow. That's where CCP are coming from, not Quake Live.

Yes fix arwin. Yes reduce damage in some places to increase survivability. Yes add a scramble up slight incline button (that one is a random personal gripe). Yes look at drop uplink spam (hint - max of 1 module per suit, max concurrently active based on one fitted to current suit). Yes rely on more than just front line troops in battles.

No - don't stop people using any weapon anywhere on the map they can walk, run, climb, drive or fly to. It's not a crutch or an exploit (unless it really is an exploit like terrain glitching) If somebody thought differently and came up with a good innovative tactic.

Dust won't grow if it goes head to head with other FPS, but it could if it was known for being different.

Such an irrelevant post ... You realize that english is a second language to many of these gamers, right? Kudos to them for being able to learn a second language.

Guy on roof? Drop an orbital spawn beacon underneath it next guy that spawns can then try to land the pod on the forge gunner. Problem solved.

I dont think they're ever gonna do such high towers ever again

if passengers could shoot from dropships, the problem might lessen. its far easier to kill a heavy with grenades and AR's than with a sniper rifle.

if passengers could shoot from dropships, the problem might lessen. its far easier to kill a heavy with grenades and AR's than with a sniper rifle.

A forge gun does not need splash damage as potent as it is. It's a hand held rail gun...only better in every way. Forge Gun/AR is the only way I fit my heavy alt.

Using a drop ship to try and dislodge a FG-sniper will result in a lost drop ship.

Uplink spam can be addressed by limiting the number deployed to 1. Focusing the difference between basic/advanced/proto on the amount of clones that can spawn on it, spawn delay and it's signature radius making them harder to find. Quality over quantity.