CCP, I am pleading to you once again.........to put skill back into dust. You have to do something about drop uplink spam and forge gun sniping on roofs/towers.

Corp battles boils down to who has the high spot where you can forge down on a letter and camp it. I remember the first battles in pc...it was so fun because it was mostly about gunning. Sure, some abused explosive weapons like contact grenades and flaylocks but that's fine. But once forge gun, OHKing from a roof was discovered, battles have gone to a whole new level of cheesy. There was a slight nerf to forges but there shouldnt be any splash damage on that weapon. It's primary function is anti-vehicle. Splash damage does nothing to tanks and dropships...so it isn't necessary.

Drop uplink spam also ruins pc because it is one of the biggest crutches in a long line of crutches in this game. Not to mention, I do believe that it drops framerates in pc. I only experience framerate issues vs teams that spams them. There should be a huge reduction on the number of drop uplinks that one can have active on a battlefield. I can have a suit that carries 9.....switch and drop another 7.

This is out of hand....there are too many crutches that are taking the skill out of the dust and ruining the fun factor. Tower forge gun sniping objectives and drop uplink spam are the two biggest ones. Please get on this

CCP, I am pleading to you once again.........to put skill back into dust. You have to do something about drop uplink spam and forge gun sniping on roofs/towers.

Corp battles boils down to who has the high spot where you can forge down on a letter and camp it. I remember the first battles in pc...it was so fun because it was mostly about gunning. Sure, some abused explosive weapons like contact grenades and flaylocks but that's fine. But once forge gun, OHKing from a roof was discovered, battles have gone to a whole new level of cheesy. There was a slight nerf to forges but there shouldnt be any splash damage on that weapon. It's primary function is anti-vehicle. Splash damage does nothing to tanks and dropships...so it isn't necessary.

Drop uplink spam also ruins pc because it is one of the biggest crutches in a long line of crutches in this game. Not to mention, I do believe that it drops framerates in pc. I only experience framerate issues vs teams that spams them. There should be a huge reduction on the number of drop uplinks that one can have active on a battlefield. I can have a suit that carries 9.....switch and drop another 7.

This is out of hand....there are too many crutches that are taking the skill out of the dust and ruining the fun factor. Tower forge gun sniping objectives and drop uplink spam are the two biggest ones. Please get on this

Just as a side note, the reason gun battle were the crucial part of the initial corp battles was because you could only have 8 players. Having 1 fewer players where the main part of the fight was happening could be a significant disadvantage. When its 16v16 having one or two off doing something else isn't such a big deal. Therefore those 'floaters'/'campers' can afford to do what they do because they DO add so much utility there.

IOW, tower snipers/equipment spammers are at least a secondary impact of having more people on the battlefield.

CCP, I am pleading to you once again.........to put skill back into dust. You have to do something about drop uplink spam and forge gun sniping on roofs/towers.

Corp battles boils down to who has the high spot where you can forge down on a letter and camp it. I remember the first battles in pc...it was so fun because it was mostly about gunning. Sure, some abused explosive weapons like contact grenades and flaylocks but that's fine. But once forge gun, OHKing from a roof was discovered, battles have gone to a whole new level of cheesy. There was a slight nerf to forges but there shouldnt be any splash damage on that weapon. It's primary function is anti-vehicle. Splash damage does nothing to tanks and dropships...so it isn't necessary.

Drop uplink spam also ruins pc because it is one of the biggest crutches in a long line of crutches in this game. Not to mention, I do believe that it drops framerates in pc. I only experience framerate issues vs teams that spams them. There should be a huge reduction on the number of drop uplinks that one can have active on a battlefield. I can have a suit that carries 9.....switch and drop another 7.

This is out of hand....there are too many crutches that are taking the skill out of the dust and ruining the fun factor. Tower forge gun sniping objectives and drop uplink spam are the two biggest ones. Please get on this

nerf the towers, not the forge gun whose main purpose is anti-material not anti-vehicle. it's a heavy's only effective heavy weapon.

I'm talking 16v16...not 8v8

I'm fine with a tower nerf.....hate cheesy weapons and tactics

Forge gun on roof is OK. Forge gun on roof that can shoot directly into a hack panel is not OK.

Making use of the characteristics of a weapon and positioning = crutch

What is spamming uplinks a crutch off?

Are you sure you know what that word means?

CCP, I am pleading to you once again.........to put skill back into dust. You have to do something about drop uplink spam and forge gun sniping on roofs/towers.

Corp battles boils down to who has the high spot where you can forge down on a letter and camp it. I remember the first battles in pc...it was so fun because it was mostly about gunning. Sure, some abused explosive weapons like contact grenades and flaylocks but that's fine. But once forge gun, OHKing from a roof was discovered, battles have gone to a whole new level of cheesy. There was a slight nerf to forges but there shouldnt be any splash damage on that weapon. It's primary function is anti-vehicle. Splash damage does nothing to tanks and dropships...so it isn't necessary.

Drop uplink spam also ruins pc because it is one of the biggest crutches in a long line of crutches in this game. Not to mention, I do believe that it drops framerates in pc. I only experience framerate issues vs teams that spams them. There should be a huge reduction on the number of drop uplinks that one can have active on a battlefield. I can have a suit that carries 9.....switch and drop another 7.

This is out of hand....there are too many crutches that are taking the skill out of the dust and ruining the fun factor. Tower forge gun sniping objectives and drop uplink spam are the two biggest ones. Please get on this

CCP, I am pleading to you once again.........to put skill back into dust. You have to do something about drop uplink spam and forge gun sniping on roofs/towers.

Corp battles boils down to who has the high spot where you can forge down on a letter and camp it. I remember the first battles in pc...it was so fun because it was mostly about gunning. Sure, some abused explosive weapons like contact grenades and flaylocks but that's fine. But once forge gun, OHKing from a roof was discovered, battles have gone to a whole new level of cheesy. There was a slight nerf to forges but there shouldnt be any splash damage on that weapon. It's primary function is anti-vehicle. Splash damage does nothing to tanks and dropships...so it isn't necessary.

Drop uplink spam also ruins pc because it is one of the biggest crutches in a long line of crutches in this game. Not to mention, I do believe that it drops framerates in pc. I only experience framerate issues vs teams that spams them. There should be a huge reduction on the number of drop uplinks that one can have active on a battlefield. I can have a suit that carries 9.....switch and drop another 7.

This is out of hand....there are too many crutches that are taking the skill out of the dust and ruining the fun factor. Tower forge gun sniping objectives and drop uplink spam are the two biggest ones. Please get on this

Considering i attempted to get 2 RND forge gunners off a roof a few days ago for an entire match-- Yes forge gunners on towers need a better counter. I sat in the mountains for 15 minutes trying to snipe these heavies off the tower but you just can't do it. They take too many shots to take down. It's even more impossible when they can just wander to a rep hive after tanking a ton of shots and laugh at you while they forge into 2 objectives without any effective counter besides an orbital which won't be coming because you've spent the entire match attempting to get them off the kitten roof.

If they have a logi repping them you need two people to take the heavy out, then they respawn there again on an uplink.

Yes it's annoying. but one of Dust interest is that you should be able to have a lot of different tactics. And as much counters as possible among your corpmates. So the "take higher ground and use forge gun tactic" doesnt represent an issue. As long as you can counter it (sniper ? DS to get the guy out of position)

Now, the uplink spam is a lot more annoying. It kills the purpose of the uplinks by making them a spam tactic. It clots (cloats ? ) the UI and also seems to cause performance issues. As for a counter, there aint much except spamming yourself. Also, i think pretty much everyone is ok with stopping this.

nerf the towers, not the forge gun whose main purpose is anti-material not anti-vehicle. it's a heavy's only effective heavy weapon.

By the end of the match there were 3 guys attempting to snipe them off that tower. It's seriously a BS strategy. You shouldn't be able to deny 2 objectives with one forge gun.

Holy sht I love your alliance name.

Yes it's annoying. but one of Dust interest is that you should be able to have a lot of different tactics. And as much counters as possible among your corpmates. So the "take higher ground and use forge gun tactic" doesnt represent an issue. As long as you can counter it (sniper ? DS to get the guy out of position)

Now, the uplink spam is a lot more annoying. It kills the purpose of the uplinks by making them a spam tactic. It clots (cloats ? ) the UI and also seems to cause performance issues. As for a counter, there aint much except spamming yourself. Also, i think pretty much everyone is ok with stopping this.

First off, I beleive that a future patch mentioned reducing the splash radius significantly for the FG's to counter a lot of this problem.

Second, I have to agree that if players can find an advantage in terrain or otherwise, then it is a valid tactic. That's what your brain is there to be used for, so stop complaining about another's ingenuity and start thinking of either how you can use the same for your advantage or ways to counter it.

To counter lots of equipment spamage (ie. drop uplinks) I use flux grenades. They get rid of them fast. Additionaly, if you have EVE support, an EM strike from small projectile guns in EVE has the LARGEST blast radius for an orbital and will also eliminate all uplinks just like a flux grenade does. What's more fun is it won't kill anyone as it only gets rid of shields, so if you are defending an objective you can call this one down on yourself and it eliminates all the enemy's nearby spawn points.

As for stuff hanging out on top of towers, again use your orbital strikes.

Sounds like you guys need to invest in snipers, logis, and dropship pilots.

Because people use all the tools available to them and create situations that disrupt you isn't a crutch...that's a multi-faceted tactical game.