DUST Search - After reading about that 3.1M pub match payout...

Virtual Riot wrote:

IgniteableAura wrote:

Scheherazade VII wrote:

HyperionsThunder wrote:

I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward.

It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can.

Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts.

Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team.

You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you.

Lets just get this cleared up. Officers gear does significantly boost your isk payout. Why?
Isk payout is determined by the average meta level of gear destroyed by a team in a given match.
Thats what makes the pool, (Average meta level x ISK multiplier = Team profit)
The pool is then split between players based on what % of the team WP they earned. For example;
If the pool was 1 million Isk, I got 100WP and the only other guy on my team got 1,000WP, I would get 10% of the ISK pool and the other guy would get 90% of the isk pool.

End of match ISK payout is in fact not directly related to the ISK value of gear destroyed, nor the ammount of WP you earn.
It is determined by meta level of gear destroyed, and your personal % of the total WP for the team.

*End Thread*

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Base rewards GÇô Every mercenary receives basic compensation for each battle they fight. The size of the reward depends on the time you spent fighting, so joining a battle late will net you lower earnings. Value of objects destroyed in battle has no bearing on this part of the reward.

Team rewards GÇô The total rewards calculated from the value destroyed are split between the participating teams, with the winning team earning a larger share. Then, each participant earns a cut of the total rewards that their team received based on the time they spent in the battle. If youGÇÖre late to the party, youGÇÖll earn a smaller cut.

Individual rewards GÇô Finally, every participant receives a reward based on their individual contribution on the battlefield. Mercs earn war points based on their actions in the course of each battle, and the more war points you score, the higher your cut of the total payout.

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HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 104	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:36:00 - [1] - Quote I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
SteelDark Knight 138	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:40:00 - [2] - Quote I believe this was the last "official" word on ISK reward. War and profit.
Scheherazade VII 48	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:49:00 - [3] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 288	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:53:00 - [4] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team. You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4585	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:55:00 - [5] - Quote I'm relatively certain it's split between team members - I got a massive 2.1 mil when I had a solo match. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1757	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:57:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm relatively certain it's split between team members - I got a massive 2.1 mil when I had a solo match. Yes it's split, and your cut is mostly a function of your contribution to battle re: (your wp/team's wp).
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1191	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:01:00 - [7] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm relatively certain it's split between team members - I got a massive 2.1 mil when I had a solo match. Yes it's split, and your cut is mostly a function of your contribution to battle re: (your wp/team's wp). Still has some element of randomness and/or brokenness as far as I can tell, I have finished 1st and got less ISK than 2nd I have finished 2nd and got more than 1st. I have had an unbelieveable game against proto stompers and got only about 250k despite topping my team by a large margin, on the other hand played against randoms in militia came second and got 450ish. It obvious the better you do the more you get but I am sure we are missing something/CCP buggered up somewhere. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Aqua-Regia 517	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:22:00 - [8] - Quote We get low isk payout because of free suit and bpo. Dust player need to embrace proto pubstomping so the higher possibility of two proto pubstomping fighting each other for a bigger payout than a BPO pubstomper vs a proto pubstomping team. All you BPO cheap ass player trying to save ISK and QQing about people using proto gear in a pub games are ***** up the Dust economy. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó SoonGäó** GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 772	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:23:00 - [9] - Quote Stabbing Proto Heavies is where most of my paycheck comes from "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Aseair The Immortal 514 12	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:30:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Stabbing Proto Heavies is where most of my paycheck comes from ^ this p.s. can I steal this quote? Memento vos sunt immortales

Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 235	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:44:00 - [11] - Quote "Equip modules that assist you in finding better salvage, and you will become much more likely to receive higher quality items, such as the rare Officer-tier weapons" from the dev blog. DO WANT
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 944	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:46:00 - [12] - Quote Someone already said It is a combination of how much isk the other team loses versus your WP. Then someone mentioned the merits of running BPO versus protos. I believe that if you can get in a proto stomping squad you should go for it, because it is not just how much isk you make per match but how much isk you make per hour of play. Proto stomps means less per match but many more matches per hour. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 773	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:48:00 - [13] - Quote Aseair wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Stabbing Proto Heavies is where most of my paycheck comes from ^ this p.s. can I steal this quote? Here you go! "Stabbing Proto Heavies is where most of my paycheck comes from " -Ghost Kaisar "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 844	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:24:00 - [14] - Quote Grab an Oiuja board, summon all the lawyers and accountants from hell and you might, and I say this loosely you might get your answer Do not eat the yellow snow
Dust Junky 4Life Shitstorm Inc 131	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:54:00 - [15] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. ITS FKING BROKE! I dont kill ANYBODY and get 500k a match. Last 5 matches last night: 109k 540k 498k 779k 503k It's all based on WP, I don't care what everyone else says. Im sure you make more if you kill protos. ps: I have pics of wallet as proof A shitstorm is coming.......
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1854	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:04:00 - [16] - Quote It is broken. I don't care what anybody says. I played in a match yesterday where my team was cloned and the other team had 3 clones left. There was a LOT of proto in that match. It was basically a squad on each side doing all the killing and WP generation. The payouts were around 400K for the top 3 on the losing side. 297 clones were destroyed with a lot of proto. I've seen matches were 50 total clones were killed and I've gotten over 600K. I think it's random or at the least broken.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1197	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:05:00 - [17] - Quote CCP wrote: Who the **** knows?[/quote] Really. Cheeseburgers.
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians 66	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:35:00 - [18] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team. You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you. Lets just get this cleared up. Officers gear does significantly boost your isk payout. Why? Isk payout is determined by the average meta level of gear destroyed by a team in a given match. Thats what makes the pool, (Average meta level x ISK multiplier = Team profit) The pool is then split between players based on what % of the team WP they earned. For example; If the pool was 1 million Isk, I got 100WP and the only other guy on my team got 1,000WP, I would get 10% of the ISK pool and the other guy would get 90% of the isk pool. End of match ISK payout is in fact not directly related to the ISK value of gear destroyed, nor the ammount of WP you earn. It is determined by meta level of gear destroyed, and your personal % of the total WP for the team. End Thread
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 87	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:38:00 - [19] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. actually the data dumps show that officer gear DOES have an isk price in the system used for just these purposes :P
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians 66	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:39:00 - [20] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. actually the data dumps show that officer gear DOES have an isk price in the system used for just these purposes :P Again, it has nothing to do with the ISK value of the gear anyways.

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 4039	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:43:00 - [21] - Quote wait you're telling me (one of the poorest people in dust) that the one time my internet at home goes down that the isk rewards get broken and become stupidly high? WTF LIFE? Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2147	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:47:00 - [22] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team. You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you. someone who understands the economics +1 rather than QQ and send your hatemail, why not send a 'thank you' for the additional isk u get? hating on protobears is silly... sure the gear is better, and costs more, thus giving you more. its a win win, and its all about winning Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 107	Posted - 2013.11.05 16:06:00 - [23] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team. You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you. someone who understands the economics +1 rather than QQ and send your hatemail, why not send a 'thank you' for the additional isk u get? hating on protobears is silly... sure the gear is better, and costs more, thus giving you more. its a win win, and its all about winning I dig the signature. Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
OSGR Valdez MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 90	Posted - 2013.11.05 16:38:00 - [24] - Quote The enemy team's loss of ISK goes into a pool. Your cut of the pie is determined on how many WP you get. More WP = More ISK (And your time in game aswell) But let's assume you played from start to finish
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 296	Posted - 2013.11.05 16:39:00 - [25] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: I've realized that I have no idea how the ISK/SP payout system works. Does anyone have any idea? It appears that killing people in better gear gives a better reward. It's broken but yeh hunt down a guy with officer's gear if you can. Officer gear has no isk price, therefore does nothing to your payouts. Payout is tied with how many WP you earn along with how much isk is lost on the other team. You could kill 100 people in militia suits and you wont get much payout. Which is exactly why if people proto stomp u switch to BPO rather than act in like kind. Less iskies for them, more for you. Lets just get this cleared up. Officers gear does significantly boost your isk payout. Why? Isk payout is determined by the average meta level of gear destroyed by a team in a given match. Thats what makes the pool, (Average meta level x ISK multiplier = Team profit) The pool is then split between players based on what % of the team WP they earned. For example; If the pool was 1 million Isk, I got 100WP and the only other guy on my team got 1,000WP, I would get 10% of the ISK pool and the other guy would get 90% of the isk pool. End of match ISK payout is in fact not directly related to the ISK value of gear destroyed, nor the ammount of WP you earn. It is determined by meta level of gear destroyed, and your personal % of the total WP for the team. End Thread How does one prove this? Would like a source. Previously all info was built on the knowledge quoted below. That would mean killing any vehicles give you no/little additional isk as I don't even think they have meta levels. Quote: Base rewards GÇô Every mercenary receives basic compensation for each battle they fight. The size of the reward depends on the time you spent fighting, so joining a battle late will net you lower earnings. Value of objects destroyed in battle has no bearing on this part of the reward. Team rewards GÇô The total rewards calculated from the value destroyed are split between the participating teams, with the winning team earning a larger share. Then, each participant earns a cut of the total rewards that their team received based on the time they spent in the battle. If youGÇÖre late to the party, youGÇÖll earn a smaller cut. Individual rewards GÇô Finally, every participant receives a reward based on their individual contribution on the battlefield. Mercs earn war points based on their actions in the course of each battle, and the more war points you score, the higher your cut of the total payout. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 373	Posted - 2013.11.05 16:41:00 - [26] - Quote Let me just jump in to say that BPO stuff does add to the ISK payout at the end of the match. Particularly full BPO LAVs.
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 108	Posted - 2013.11.05 17:28:00 - [27] - Quote But I think vehicle destruction could potentially add to the ISK payout, which is why someone got 3.1M from that match. If you watch the clips, the sky was filled with dropships. It was nuts. Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
Yelhsa Jin-Mao Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2013.11.05 17:40:00 - [28] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: We get low isk payout because of free suit and bpo. Dust player need to embrace proto pubstomping so the higher possibility of two proto pubstomping fighting each other for a bigger payout than a BPO pubstomper vs a proto pubstomping team. All you BPO cheap ass player trying to save ISK and QQing about people using proto gear in a pub games are ***** up the Dust economy. Lol, like I give a **, more ISKies for me and nones for you. I can has ISK
bear90211 Nyain San Proficiency V. 40	Posted - 2013.11.05 17:43:00 - [29] - Quote hahaha, i think i know an exploit on this >:D just have 2 PS3, have your second on the enemy team, (best on an empty server for ISK,) have a friend next to that proto suit, shoot it and revive, enemy loses 0 clones, your friend gets 5K WP, you get 7K WP, you make 7 mill, he makes 2 mill, as you destroy the proto suit a few hundred times it counts as if you actualy killed a few hundrod protos, so 10 mill in a match esy, try tis if you want :D Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D hmm, I want taco's...
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 878	Posted - 2013.11.05 18:12:00 - [30] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Let me just jump in to say that BPO stuff does add to the ISK payout at the end of the match. Particularly full BPO LAVs. My Ishukone LAVs with milita BPOs are a service to the DUST economy~~~



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