Grenade fuses need to be more random... So cooking a grenade could equal a pre mature explosion.

But grenade's in this game don;t even make sense in reality they don't even work like that IRL even the best grenade we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M67_grenade

The kill radius needs to be a tight packed area and then an injury radius however big the developers see fit... But a kill radius of 7-7.5m with core locus is crazy...

And again this is something CCP choose to do with a recent patches... They increased the blast radius because they where glitched... they then fixed blast radius and left the increased value... They then ramped up hit detection and still left grenades in their buffed state.

Uh no it doesn't, it provides a constant dynamic view of any red within its range


Aka if their moving or not you know what direction they are going

WTF don't nerf my grenade spam.

*throws core locus into thread*

There, dealt with.



On a serious note, grenade spam is way, way out of hand. I would have no problem with them being restocked from supply depots in the same manner as equipment, or for that matter having to be switched to on the equipment wheel to cut down on panic grenades, but carrying three and having such easy restocks for such a powerful weapon is silly.

Do you want proto scanners to be useless? Profile dampeners exist for a reason, and I can't think of a better way to emphasise their use than to actually make them relevant. Also, people who use proto scanners are sacrificing a lot of fitting space that could otherwise go toward better waepons and modules. The scanner trend will die down in a while, and then people will move on to spamming something else. What a lot of people don't realize is that anytime a particular weapon or piece of equipment is used by the majority of the team, an illusion of OP-ness is created. If everyone on the team used a Forge Gun, the opponents would be complaining about Forge Guns. If everyone used laser rifles, the opponents would be complaining about laser rifles. The same goes for so many different things, including shotguns, uplinks, tanks, dropships, mass drivers, scrambler rifles, HMGs, grenades, etc. The only weapon that people don't recognize the spamming of is the Assault Rifle, and to this day ARs continue to rake in more kills than anytbing else.

I usually come on here to troll but I'll be serious for once.

I have Ishokone nanohives on my assault suit soley for the grenades

I'm a prolific grenade spammer, I think max two grenades, reduce damage of Grenades 300HP(militia) to 400HP(proto) &also reduce the range so more skill is involved.

To the people who talk about dieng from a 'panic' nade that's you being ****.

Scrambeler rifles also need a nerf.

*sips tea*

Absolutely not, sir.

This game has turned into a FPG(first person grenadier(R)) in the span of a month, core locus users are on the rise
Everyone is realizing they OHK everything but pro meds and heavies. Add in they have a wider radius than the biggest resupply hive you can get(7.00 vs 7.20) couple that with map lighting, seeing a nade come at you is like trying to find a black crayon mark on a black jacket

This along with the fcuking "SCAN SPAM" has gotten out of hand.

Flanking and ANY sort of tactic in this game is completely out the window with the introduction of god mode scanners
Not only do you know where the whole entire team is at AND going, you get too see them for the next 16 to 25 seconds! Couple that with the short cooldown, you literally get to see the entire red team for the entire match.


Discuss.

This game has turned into a FPG(first person grenadier(R)) in the span of a month, core locus users are on the rise
Everyone is realizing they OHK everything but pro meds and heavies. Add in they have a wider radius than the biggest resupply hive you can get(7.00 vs 7.20) couple that with map lighting, seeing a nade come at you is like trying to find a black crayon mark on a black jacket

This along with the fcuking "SCAN SPAM" has gotten out of hand.

Flanking and ANY sort of tactic in this game is completely out the window with the introduction of god mode scanners
Not only do you know where the whole entire team is at AND going, you get too see them for the next 16 to 25 seconds! Couple that with the short cooldown, you literally get to see the entire red team for the entire match.


Discuss.

1 grenade max
nanes and supply depots dont resupply grenades
changing suits or respawning does

or adjust the damage/blast radius and require a longer period of time before the above resupply your ONE grenade. Having 3 is ridiculous. . no other FPS has this much rampant grenade spam because in good FPS games you spam bullets.. not grenades. its an opener, closer and designated hitter.. something is wrong with that picture and if you disagree you are a nade spammer.

The game will change for the better if they fix this.

Grenades are given a damage reduction and longer resupply time.

This game has turned into a FPG(first person grenadier(R)) in the span of a month, core locus users are on the rise
Everyone is realizing they OHK everything but pro meds and heavies. Add in they have a wider radius than the biggest resupply hive you can get(7.00 vs 7.20) couple that with map lighting, seeing a nade come at you is like trying to find a black crayon mark on a black jacket

This along with the fcuking "SCAN SPAM" has gotten out of hand.

Flanking and ANY sort of tactic in this game is completely out the window with the introduction of god mode scanners
Not only do you know where the whole entire team is at AND going, you get too see them for the next 16 to 25 seconds! Couple that with the short cooldown, you literally get to see the entire red team for the entire match.


Discuss.

Scanner provides a static "snapshot" of enemy positions at the time of the scan.

Fixed.

This game has turned into a FPG(first person grenadier(R)) in the span of a month, core locus users are on the rise
Everyone is realizing they OHK everything but pro meds and heavies. Add in they have a wider radius than the biggest resupply hive you can get(7.00 vs 7.20) couple that with map lighting, seeing a nade come at you is like trying to find a black crayon mark on a black jacket

This along with the fcuking "SCAN SPAM" has gotten out of hand.

Flanking and ANY sort of tactic in this game is completely out the window with the introduction of god mode scanners
Not only do you know where the whole entire team is at AND going, you get too see them for the next 16 to 25 seconds! Couple that with the short cooldown, you literally get to see the entire red team for the entire match.


Discuss.

What counts as spam?

5 enemies in a bunch 1 ft away from each other, throwing a grenade is logical.
You see more than 1 of your guys fighting in a crowded hallway, don't join them, try to flank.

You go av and some guy proto'd out is coming down on you with a duvolle. Throw a grenade to soften him up for your smg.
Your on the last bar of health and the enemy is chasing you round the corner and he meets cooked grenade to face, he should have been more cautious than greedy for a kill.

If you want to do something about nanohive rates to prevent a guy camping and just throwing, cool.
Other than that, grenades are fine.

That is just wrong. You see people moving for those whole 25 seconds. You only don't see new targets that enter the scan area.

Get your facts straight.

I think COMPLETELY removing grenade resupply, from hives or depots is a childish quick fix, by butthurt proto suits!

HOWEVER, numerous things can be done to alleviate the situation.

Rejig ammo resupply protocols:
At this time, nanohives will restock all ammo types simultaneously, giving priority to your grenades. Change it so if only restocks 1 ammo type per pulse giving priority to h, l, s, g

AOE lighting for grenades:
MD, FG, SL, PC all have this effect as of .4 give locus orange and flux green light respectively. Prehaps even make it flash!

Change fuse pull time:
add an additional 0.1secs to the shortest possible time it can take to throw a grenade.

Grenades, Sorted

Scanning spam, make all variants have a cooldown period of at least 200% of the tag period (time visible after scan)

Scanners, Done

EDIT: okay after reading all the grenade hate i have to give a REAL rebuttal.....

check it out.....
FIRST if your going to talk about buffing the grenade you have to talk about A REAL issue, MASS DRIVERS.
grenades cant put out half of the dps a mass driver can ,you can spam with a mass driver twice as hard, plus
you can rain g's down on people, you can only have three grenades in your inventory and it stops given them to you at certain extent so i really dont see how you can even be talking about this....

summary :
MASS DRIVER HAS BETTER ROF, RANGE, ACCURACY, NO COOK TIME, MORE ANGLES, MORE AMMO AND, ETC

GRENADES HAVE BOUNCE, HIGH DAMAGE, AND CONTROLLED COOK.....

really i thnk most of you are confused between the two. ive been spammed by g's before..... heres the kick THEY CAN ONLY THROW AS FAR AS YOU GENIUS!!!!! if he can hit you you can hit him...... SIMPLE! fixed your problem.... quit whining. swing the nerf bat at something that needs it.
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but if your not convinced......

second: Grenades have never been a favorite of an enemy.... they suck to have to doge and when there's a lot coming at you then it really sucks. but just because your getting killed doesn't meant you gotta ruin other peoples time. grenades are there for a reason its for strategic advantage; corners, heavies etc. and they really don't fill there roll very well at all..... the grenade spamming doesn't happen to the extent where it is a problem, especially not compared to mass driver spam as mentioned above. ....
summary::
DON'T BE A *MEOWS.

DO NOT NERF THE GRENADE PLEASE.