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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:14:00 -
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...to get to the center of a heavy suit?
is it past 5 or 6 yet?
in the future it will just be faster to make them immune to sniper fire |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:18:00 -
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Lol think you can take down 1000 EHP?
Assassination is my thing.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:23:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Lol think you can take down 1000 EHP?
try 1200 before plates. I'd prefer a HMG fix or new mid range weapon(heavy laser), but ill take any buff i get these days.
Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:25:00 -
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Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:26:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy.
heavies have higher then 1000 ehp already.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:27:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy.
Half a thales shot to down a scout :D
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:29:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy. heavies have higher then 1000 ehp already.
So then it'll take 3 shots
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:30:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy. heavies have higher then 1000 ehp already.
1012 ehp, forgive djinn marauder, he is too busy murdering the heavies instead of caring about them.
You see, he used to be a feared heavy many millennium ago, but then ccp messed with HMGs.
Then he got all sad face and stopped eating. So he lost weight! Like alot. He is not skinny as a scout, he represses his rage about being a former fatty by murdering them with a shotgun.
It's a projected self hatred kind of thing. I imagine he is becoming mad right now.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:51:00 -
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3-4 rounds to the body from a sniper rifle seem about right for what it should take to down a heavy (2-3 for a med). I think the issue is that the only viable weapon for a sniper is an officer weapon (Thales). You'll never hit enough follow up shots with a charge to make much of a difference to a decent heavy on a high point and the standard and tac proto sniper rifles don't do enough damage to scare anyone. Increasing the meta-level of the proto level sniper rifles by one with a commensurate increase in damage (I think sniper rifles and swarms are one meta-level lower at proto level than any other light weapon) might be enough. A small buff to head shot damage to incent accuracy would be nice too.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:01:00 -
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Considering the heavies head is the size of a microwave, just go for the ridiculously easy headshots... It's not like the heavy can even move fast... The bloody things move so slow that you can double-tap or even triple-tap headshots into the fatasses with a proto tactical... That will get anyone's attention.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:06:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Considering the heavies head is the size of a microwave, just go for the ridiculously easy headshots... It's not like the heavy can even move fast... The bloody things move so slow that you can double-tap or even triple-tap headshots into the fatasses with a proto tactical... That will get anyone's attention.
head shots on heavies are actually surprisingly smaller then you would think based on the models, also when they are angels at you their giant shoulder clip and cover the head despite appearing to have a clear shot.
speaking as someone that pops more heads then the average joe( as is required in this game as a sniper ), hitting the heavies heads is no easier then anyone elses, especially not at 180-300 meters where their head is a pixel the same as anyone else. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:08:00 -
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4-5 shots with std sniper gets the job done. Also they'll do a little jumping dance for you. |
General John Ripper
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:09:00 -
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:28:00 -
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If you can't kill a heavy with a Thales, your doing it wrong.
If you can't solo me w/MLT AV, or if you get shot by infantry, it's your fault
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:35:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Considering the heavies head is the size of a microwave, just go for the ridiculously easy headshots... It's not like the heavy can even move fast... The bloody things move so slow that you can double-tap or even triple-tap headshots into the fatasses with a proto tactical... That will get anyone's attention.
I think it is unlikely that anyone can reliably hit three headshots in quick succession against a decent heavy at range. Moreover, that seems like an unreasonable expectation if that is the minimum level of skill needed for efficacy.
-Aramis
P.S. Will 3 headshots kill a bricked out heavy with maxed skills? A Kal tac with full skills will do ~275-300 damage (times multiplier) with 3-4 complex damage mods. I don't play a heavy, so how high can you get their eHP pool with the incoming buff? |
Eris Ernaga
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:36:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:...to get to the center of a heavy suit?
is it past 5 or 6 yet?
in the future it will just be faster to make them immune to sniper fire
2 *****
4 complex light damage modifiers
thales sniper rifle
pew pew they dead didn't even take head shots
oh yes and pro. 3
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you can't kill a heavy with a Thales, your doing it wrong.
I think the issue is that suppresion of a heavy on a tower absolutely requires a Thales. If there was a means for producing or trading officer weapons, tis wouldn't be as much of an issue. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:57:00 -
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you know what all other weapons don't need to kill heavies....officer weapons. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:58:00 -
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ITT: snipers QQing the prospect that it may take skill to get off more than one shot on the slowest moving target in the game...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:58:00 -
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:02:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:ITT: snipers QQing the prospect that it may take skill to get off more than one shot on the slowest moving target in the game...
if they are forge gunning or sniping from a roof, you gennerally don't get three shots on anything before they get out of the way or in really bad situations instant kill you with their superior sniper rifle called a forge gun.
guess i could go after them with an assault drop ship...but oh wait those are gone too. |
Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:15:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:ITT: snipers QQing the prospect that it may take skill to get off more than one shot on the slowest moving target in the game...
You'd think I could get a little love from a dropship pilot  . I'm fine with having to hit a head shot and then a quick follow up shot to kill a heavy. My problem is that without a Thales I'm left with two bad options: 1. Adequate damage to do the job, but a ROF that is too slow (charge). 2. Adequate ROF to do the job, but not enough damage. (everything else). This really isn't much of an issue in anything but PC.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:20:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:...to get to the center of a heavy suit?
is it past 5 or 6 yet?
in the future it will just be faster to make them immune to sniper fire
Head Shot them. Their head is the size of a microwave and they move slowly.
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Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:22:00 -
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It's all about where you're perched to kill the tower camping heavy. If you're a good DS pilot, you can get to places that look down or across of the towers...
Been sniping lately since my heavy/hmg is now only good in limited places. Having fun learning movement patterns and bottlenecks of all the red marching ants... lining up to be taken out. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:30:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:4-5 shots with std sniper gets the job done. Also they'll do a little jumping dance for you.
From an ******* Forge Gunner:
If you're shooting at me, and I am facing you, don't sit still. A sniper who gives away his position and continues to sit like a block of wood is the easiest FG kill in the game.
Snipers who shift position unpredictably, however, make me want to throw my controller into the television...
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:41:00 -
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I've found that sniping outside of PC be it heavies, etc., is manageable an sometimes your best served to just stripping health with pot shots to make easy targets. In PC however or the occasional Proto squad in FW is where you see how gimped the sniper rifle has become.
Most people run tanked logi suits or the equivalent if they are serious about winning meaning they can take your shot (no matter where its placed get to cover an fully regen) meaning your presence is all but useless for slaying. At worst you can steal kills, at best relay information but a good squad doesn't need a sniper for this. An since most serious engagements are now happening in enclosed areas even that fly's out the window.
But I digress just a few thoughts on the matter, I like others have adapted to the flow of the game. However I don't think an officer weapon should be the answer when that's not the case for any other weapon. Hell I've been hear for a ""while"" an still have yet to get one Thale to drop, yet i'm a dedicated sniper.
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Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:11:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote: Hell I've been hear for a "" while"" an still have yet to get one Thale to drop, yet i'm a dedicated sniper.
Bummer... I'm a heavy mostly and I have 45 thales waiting for me when I hit P3. I'm at P1 now so in a week or two I'll be Thalin' it. Sure wish they'd get the market working so I could unload the stuff I don't use.
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:52:00 -
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Panoscape wrote:Outer Raven wrote: Hell I've been hear for a "" while"" an still have yet to get one Thale to drop, yet i'm a dedicated sniper. Bummer... I'm a heavy mostly and I have 45 thales waiting for me when I hit P3. I'm at P1 now so in a week or two I'll be Thalin' it. Sure wish they'd get the market working so I could unload the stuff I don't use.
The market will definitely bring some very interesting results.
Gû¦Gû+ Outer Raven /// Sniper /// Head Hunter Gû+Gû¦
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:12:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Thales takes 2 shots to down a 1000 EHP Heavy. Half a thales shot to down a scout :D
Pretty sure the wind from a passing shot from a Thales would take down a scout.
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Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:19:00 -
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1, 2, 3. 3 sniper shots.
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