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Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:51:00 -
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3-4 rounds to the body from a sniper rifle seem about right for what it should take to down a heavy (2-3 for a med). I think the issue is that the only viable weapon for a sniper is an officer weapon (Thales). You'll never hit enough follow up shots with a charge to make much of a difference to a decent heavy on a high point and the standard and tac proto sniper rifles don't do enough damage to scare anyone. Increasing the meta-level of the proto level sniper rifles by one with a commensurate increase in damage (I think sniper rifles and swarms are one meta-level lower at proto level than any other light weapon) might be enough. A small buff to head shot damage to incent accuracy would be nice too.
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Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:35:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Considering the heavies head is the size of a microwave, just go for the ridiculously easy headshots... It's not like the heavy can even move fast... The bloody things move so slow that you can double-tap or even triple-tap headshots into the fatasses with a proto tactical... That will get anyone's attention.
I think it is unlikely that anyone can reliably hit three headshots in quick succession against a decent heavy at range. Moreover, that seems like an unreasonable expectation if that is the minimum level of skill needed for efficacy.
-Aramis
P.S. Will 3 headshots kill a bricked out heavy with maxed skills? A Kal tac with full skills will do ~275-300 damage (times multiplier) with 3-4 complex damage mods. I don't play a heavy, so how high can you get their eHP pool with the incoming buff? |
Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you can't kill a heavy with a Thales, your doing it wrong.
I think the issue is that suppresion of a heavy on a tower absolutely requires a Thales. If there was a means for producing or trading officer weapons, tis wouldn't be as much of an issue. |
Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:15:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:ITT: snipers QQing the prospect that it may take skill to get off more than one shot on the slowest moving target in the game...
You'd think I could get a little love from a dropship pilot  . I'm fine with having to hit a head shot and then a quick follow up shot to kill a heavy. My problem is that without a Thales I'm left with two bad options: 1. Adequate damage to do the job, but a ROF that is too slow (charge). 2. Adequate ROF to do the job, but not enough damage. (everything else). This really isn't much of an issue in anything but PC.
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Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:48:00 -
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lrian Locust wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:calisk galern wrote:...to get to the center of a heavy suit? is it past 5 or 6 yet? in the future it will just be faster to make them immune to sniper fire 2 ***** 4 complex light damage modifiers thales sniper rifle pew pew they dead didn't even take head shots oh yes and pro. 3 4 complex damage mods & a rare officer weapon isn't a fit that many people have laying around. The Thales is vastly superior over the other sniper rifles.
Yet it is the only fit that is really viable for sniping in PC matches. I'm not concerned that one of my chosen specialties requires a high degree of accuracy to be viable and I don't want to be able to one-shot everything. My chief concern is that my being effective is predicated almost entirely on being able to protect my small and slowly diminishing stock of a rare officer weapon. At the highest end, effective health outpaces sniper rifles, marginalizing their ability not only to kill, but to influence behavior. This is part of why forge sniping is so attractive; it has true alpha strike capability. Again, I don't have a problem with this, but it seems reasonable that snipers should be one of the counters to man portable anti-material weapons. Man portable heavy weapons have always been an attractive target for snipers (i.e. carrying the mortar wasn't a really popular job in the VC).
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Aramis Madrigal
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:49:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:1, 2, 3. 3 sniper shots.
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