Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.

Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.

One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please.

PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console?

Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high.

*Looks at DCU and FF14* Hmm... what? And Blizzard has been hinting that they want to put WoW on PS4. They just don't want the control schematics to work like DCUO's does where you can only cast up to 6 different spells actively without going through menus. But that's also why PS4 added touch screen to there controllers - more options for designers to work with.

Comparing a space sim devolopment to a fps is silly to me. In EvE - you can run away from CCP's mistakes on ship balancing and go mine something, or explore, or w/e.

In this game - you're simply screwed for the 6 months it takes CCP to do anything. Enjoy being fodder or useless for the time it takes CCP to care. There's no escaping your fate.

I'm guessing it's a lot more frustrating for us then it was for the EvE guys - but idk how eve was at the start. Maybe they didn't have anything but PvP too?

One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please.

PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console?

Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high.

I thought people who believe stuff like this guys comments all died of old age....the world of gaming has and is changing..

DCUO, FF14, TESO, divinity, titan, and many more to come on console...

changed to F2P...

what was? ff14 isn't, dcuo ist TESO isn't... and lets be real F2P isn't free, ever... its just a different way to market a product.

Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever

DCUO when it first launched wasn't much of a game more then it was a rock paper scissors pvp with a boring grind. Since then it's changed a lot. It wasn't worth getting

And FF14 has hit 1mil+ subscribers.

It isn't that it isn't possible. If they remade FF7 with epic graphics and told everyone it had a monthly fee to work - they'd make millions Lol

Famous quote for the DUST 514 Second Decade Box.

Console is majority casual players. I think everyone can agree to that. PC players are more "hardcore" when it comes to gaming, and that's obvious when you're the type of PC gamer that upgrades your PC every few months.

People want to tell me, a console gamer mentality is the same as a PC gamer? lol

You think console gamers will stick with one shooter for 5-10 years? No. Not the casual gamer, and that's the majority of people on console. FPS are dime a dozen.

Hell come November there's:

- CoD

- BF

- PS2

- Killzone

- Blacklight

And maybe a few I missed out. You know exactly what a console gamer will do after playing BF for a year or 2... that's right, move on to the next. That's the mentality, and that's what a FPS gamer does.

Comparing a PC gamer and one that plays EVE to a console gamer that plays FPS is not a comparison.

EVE is a niche game, while DUST is not. Simple as that. If by some miracle DUST becomes a niche, THEN you can compare. But for now, this whole comparison thing between the 2 games is a joke.

bigger than what? EVE? not sure if serious...

bigger than what it is now? Not hard to do tbh...I mean...look at it.

Was anyone around back in the day, when EVE was about a year out? I'm just wondering about the state of EVE forums then and now compared to the Dust forums. Does CCP know that everyone is going to QQ for years before they are happy with the game (i.e. did this happen in EVE)?

i guess this is a "LMFAOROFL" moment, but I don't get it.

DUST is a lobby shooter, and it will always be a lobby shooter. There's no "open world sandbox" like EVE promised back in the day.

So again, you people can have faith and hope in DUST, but until I see otherwise, DUST will always be a lobby shooter.

Meh... I'll wait a year or 2 before I judge a sub based game success.

The point here is that the console market is changing radically to the point where even our consoles are changing in both architecture and power. Even the demographic is changing. At this point the fine line between PC gamers and console gamers is beginning to blur. I won't be surprised if 5 years from now the console demographic becomes mostly hardcore rather than casual.

i guess this is a "LMFAOROFL" moment, but I don't get it.

DUST is a lobby shooter, and it will always be a lobby shooter. There's no "open world sandbox" like EVE promised back in the day.

So again, you people can have faith and hope in DUST, but until I see otherwise, DUST will always be a lobby shooter.

You forget that some of us are forced to move on. If I had the choice, I would stick with playing MAG forever, that game was fun as hell, and there's not been anything quite like it before or since. I didn't get to stick around, because Zipper collapsed and the servers went to ****. Don't you ******* group us all together like we have ADD, you goddamned prick.

Comparing a space sim devolopment to a fps is silly to me. In EvE - you can run away from CCP's mistakes on ship balancing and go mine something, or explore, or w/e.

In this game - you're simply screwed for the 6 months it takes CCP to do anything. Enjoy being fodder or useless for the time it takes CCP to care. There's no escaping your fate.

I'm guessing it's a lot more frustrating for us then it was for the EvE guys - but idk how eve was at the start. Maybe they didn't have anything but PvP too?

^ That's why I'm sticking with Dust

@OP - The forums were similar, however, the big difference is in the two games themselves. You cannot compare the two. One is a space sim on the PC platform. Another is a lobby shooter on the PS3. The PS3 hardware will very soon be outdated. The PC is easily expandable for system requirements and hardware/software. For whatever reason they decided to go with the console when they really should have been developing this on the PC so they wouldn't have to work with a console that is notoriously difficult to develop for.

There is no clear answer, however, my personal opinion is if they keep it on the console the game will fade away to obscurity. Especially compared to other AAA shooter franchises such as Call of Duty, Battlefield, Counter Strike, Borderlands, Bioshock, Far Cry, Halo, and most likely pretty soon Destiny. Dust doesn't even hold a candle to some shooters that are 5 - 6 years old ffs.

EVE on the other hand does not currently have much competition. It certainly had no competition when it was released cause EA pulled the plug on its only direct competitor(Earth & Beyond). SWG also shed almost its entire playerbase at around that same time when the NGE bomb dropped. However, I do think Eve will be hurt significantly once Star Citizen is released when many of their casual players(anyone probably not locked heavily into nullsec activities) will likely abandon ship. SC has good promise, but we shall see I guess.

They could just port it, so point invalid. Also, Dust will have more than just shooting, so that point is also invalid.

EVE on the other hand does not currently have much competition. It certainly had no competition when it was released cause EA pulled the plug on its only direct competitor(Earth & Beyond). SWG also shed almost its entire playerbase at around that same time when the NGE bomb dropped. However, I do think Eve will be hurt significantly once Star Citizen is released when many of their casual players(anyone probably not locked heavily into nullsec activities) will likely abandon ship. SC has good promise, but we shall see I guess.

@OP - The forums were similar, however, the big difference is in the two games themselves. You cannot compare the two. One is a space sim on the PC platform. Another is a lobby shooter on the PS3. The PS3 hardware will very soon be outdated. The PC is easily expandable for system requirements and hardware/software. For whatever reason they decided to go with the console when they really should have been developing this on the PC so they wouldn't have to work with a console that is notoriously difficult to develop for.

There is no clear answer, however, my personal opinion is if they keep it on the console the game will fade away to obscurity. Especially compared to other AAA shooter franchises such as Call of Duty, Battlefield, Counter Strike, Borderlands, Bioshock, Far Cry, Halo, and most likely pretty soon Destiny. Dust doesn't even hold a candle to some shooters that are 5 - 6 years old ffs.

EVE on the other hand does not currently have much competition. It certainly had no competition when it was released cause EA pulled the plug on its only direct competitor(Earth & Beyond). SWG also shed almost its entire playerbase at around that same time when the NGE bomb dropped. However, I do think Eve will be hurt significantly once Star Citizen is released when many of their casual players(anyone probably not locked heavily into nullsec activities) will likely abandon ship. SC has good promise, but we shall see I guess.