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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:08:00 -
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Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever  |
Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:54:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever Bet you this will be even bigger than that when we get to that point. Calling it now.
bigger than what? EVE?  not sure if serious...
bigger than what it is now? Not hard to do tbh...I mean...look at it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:57:00 -
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castba wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever The comparison was not so much the type of game, but the way in which CCP develop the games and the community's response. Comparison seems quite valid.
The community's response? lol
Brings me BACK to my point. PC crowd is not a console crowd. Can never, NEVER compare a PC point and click MMO crowd to a FPS console crowd. Night and day.
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:32:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:castba wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever The comparison was not so much the type of game, but the way in which CCP develop the games and the community's response. Comparison seems quite valid. The community's response? lol Brings me BACK to my point. PC crowd is not a console crowd. Can never, NEVER compare a PC point and click MMO crowd to a FPS console crowd. Night and day. You know this really makes me wonder if PC players and console players are really two different people. I'm a dedicated console guy but I also dedicate myself to PC gaming equally. Where does that put me?
Console is majority casual players. I think everyone can agree to that. PC players are more "hardcore" when it comes to gaming, and that's obvious when you're the type of PC gamer that upgrades your PC every few months.
People want to tell me, a console gamer mentality is the same as a PC gamer? lol
You think console gamers will stick with one shooter for 5-10 years? No. Not the casual gamer, and that's the majority of people of on console. FPS are dime a dozen.
Hell come November there's:
- CoD
- BF
- PS2
- Killzone
- Blacklight
And maybe a few I missed out. You know exactly what a console gamer will do after playing BF for a year or 2... that's right, move on to the next. That's the mentality, and that's what a FPS gamer does.
Comparing a PC gamer and one that plays EVE to a console gamer that plays FPS is not a comparison.
EVE is a niche game, while DUST is not. Simple as that. Even if by some miracle DUST becomes a niche, THEN you can compare. But for now, this whole comparison thing between the 2 games is a joke. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:39:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.
One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please.
PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console?
Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:49:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.
One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please. PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console? Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high. *Looks at DCU and FF14* Hmm... what? And Blizzard has been hinting that they want to put WoW on PS4. They just don't want the control schematics to work like DCUO's does where you can only cast up to 6 different spells actively without going through menus. But that's also why PS4 added touch screen to there controllers - more options for designers to work with.
DCUO went F2P... it failed, and when it went F2P its revenue increased by 700%.
I don't know the numbers for FF14, but I can guarantee going F2P will also increase that game's revenue. F2P is the future of gaming on console.
It's working on PC also, but so is sub based games. We'll see how long FF lasts.
WoW? I don't know. I just can't see sub based gaming working out on console... I just can't. It'll take a game that successfully did it for some years for me to give that idea a nod. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 23:02:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.
One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please. PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console? Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high. I thought people who believe stuff like this guys comments all died of old age....the world of gaming has and is changing.. DCUO, FF14, TESO, divinity, titan, and many more to come on console...
changed to F2P... |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 23:16:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Lance - you're old school man. PC gaming is only 'hardcore' compared to console because the games in consoles aren't at the same level of quality PC gaming is. Console will catch up and it we'll see a revolution of new players who take console gaming seriously. It's already happened with the Xbox350.
One important point that nobody mentioned yet, is subscription based gaming ONLY works on PC. They tried that on console and it failed. Why? Casual gamers not gonna pay every month to play a game! Please. PC gamers are on a different lvl to console gamers man. Ever wonder why WoW never made it to console? Allot of PC games won't see the light of day on console because there's no demand for it, while the demand from PC gamers are high. I thought people who believe stuff like this guys comments all died of old age....the world of gaming has and is changing.. DCUO, FF14, TESO, divinity, titan, and many more to come on console... changed to F2P... what was? ff14 isn't, dcuo ist TESO isn't... and lets be real F2P isn't free, ever... its just a different way to market a product.
DCUO is currently F2P on PS3... it went F2P after poor numbers.
I suspect every other console game with a sub will head down this same road. 80 million PS3's and they needed to F2P to make more money. There won't be 80 million PS4's out anytime soon, so I suspect some of the games you mentioned will also head down the DCUO path.
I love Elder Scrolls, but I'm not paying a monthly sub of $15 for it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 23:23:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:DCUO when it first launched wasn't much of a game more then it was a rock paper scissors pvp with a boring grind. Since then it's changed a lot. It wasn't worth getting
And FF14 has hit 1mil+ subscribers.
It isn't that it isn't possible. If they remade FF7 with epic graphics and told everyone it had a monthly fee to work - they'd make millions Lol
Meh... I'll wait a year or 2 before I judge a sub based game success. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 23:26:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Comparing a PC MMO, niche game, to a console 16v16, sub par lobby shooter. Best comparison ever Famous quote for the DUST 514 Second Decade Box. 
i guess this is a "LMFAOROFL" moment, but I don't get it.
DUST is a lobby shooter, and it will always be a lobby shooter. There's no "open world sandbox" like EVE promised back in the day.
So again, you people can have faith and hope in DUST, but until I see otherwise, DUST will always be a lobby shooter. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:51:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:
You forget that some of us are forced to move on. If I had the choice, I would stick with playing MAG forever, that game was fun as hell, and there's not been anything quite like it before or since. I didn't get to stick around, because Zipper collapsed and the servers went to ****. Don't you ******* group us all together like we have ADD, you goddamned prick.
Any reason in particular you feel the need to call people names for having an opinion?
Talking about MAG like it was some godsend. That game flopped after 1.3. If you didn't move on after that you were trying to be a big fish in a small pond... very similar to what people are trying to do in DUST now.
How about I call you a scrub from a sh*tty arse corp because your opinion is different to mine. See how that works? |
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