DUST Search - Comparing early EVE forums to Dust

BARDAS wrote:

@OP - The forums were similar, however, the big difference is in the two games themselves. You cannot compare the two. One is a space sim on the PC platform. Another is a lobby shooter on the PS3. The PS3 hardware will very soon be outdated. The PC is easily expandable for system requirements and hardware/software. For whatever reason they decided to go with the console when they really should have been developing this on the PC so they wouldn't have to work with a console that is notoriously difficult to develop for.

There is no clear answer, however, my personal opinion is if they keep it on the console the game will fade away to obscurity. Especially compared to other AAA shooter franchises such as Call of Duty, Battlefield, Counter Strike, Borderlands, Bioshock, Far Cry, Halo, and most likely pretty soon Destiny. Dust doesn't even hold a candle to some shooters that are 5 - 6 years old ffs.

EVE on the other hand does not currently have much competition. It certainly had no competition when it was released cause EA pulled the plug on its only direct competitor(Earth & Beyond). SWG also shed almost its entire playerbase at around that same time when the NGE bomb dropped. However, I do think Eve will be hurt significantly once Star Citizen is released when many of their casual players(anyone probably not locked heavily into nullsec activities) will likely abandon ship. SC has good promise, but we shall see I guess.


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HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 89	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:23:00 - [1] - Quote Was anyone around back in the day, when EVE was about a year out? I'm just wondering about the state of EVE forums then and now compared to the Dust forums. Does CCP know that everyone is going to QQ for years before they are happy with the game (i.e. did this happen in EVE)?
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 90	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:46:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah, I figured that they would probably take the game out of beta without all the content that has been promised solely because it worked out for them with EVE. I agree that comparing the two is difficult, but Dust has been good enough to keep a lot of us around since the beta. Not to mention all the people who have taken an indefinite hiatus rather than delete their account, as well as the people who log in for the SP bonus everyday (I think once there is enough content, these players will come flocking back, and the player base will greatly expand).
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 92	Posted - 2013.10.28 16:07:00 - [3] - Quote BARDAS wrote: @OP - The forums were similar, however, the big difference is in the two games themselves. You cannot compare the two. One is a space sim on the PC platform. Another is a lobby shooter on the PS3. The PS3 hardware will very soon be outdated. The PC is easily expandable for system requirements and hardware/software. For whatever reason they decided to go with the console when they really should have been developing this on the PC so they wouldn't have to work with a console that is notoriously difficult to develop for. There is no clear answer, however, my personal opinion is if they keep it on the console the game will fade away to obscurity. Especially compared to other AAA shooter franchises such as Call of Duty, Battlefield, Counter Strike, Borderlands, Bioshock, Far Cry, Halo, and most likely pretty soon Destiny. Dust doesn't even hold a candle to some shooters that are 5 - 6 years old ffs. EVE on the other hand does not currently have much competition. It certainly had no competition when it was released cause EA pulled the plug on its only direct competitor(Earth & Beyond). SWG also shed almost its entire playerbase at around that same time when the NGE bomb dropped. However, I do think Eve will be hurt significantly once Star Citizen is released when many of their casual players(anyone probably not locked heavily into nullsec activities) will likely abandon ship. SC has good promise, but we shall see I guess. While these are all relatively valid points, the OP was just to see if people had the same sentiments about EVE as they currently do about Dust, and whether CCP takes that into account for developing a game. Also, I'm sure they probably have already set themselves up to port Dust to the PS4, since developers likely know when a new system is coming much sooner than the public (CCP isn't so irrational as to develop a game with a decade long roadmap when everyone knew PS4 was going to be dropping so soon). Destiny and Star Citizen do pose great risks to Dust and Eve, but I think that SC being PC only will limit its audience (just being realistic - while PC gaming is still a lot of fun, developers are jumping ship to more widely used platforms like console and mobile), and people aren't going to just abandon 5 years of playing Eve - they'll probably just play both. Dust would be transformed significantly by a player base that was even just 10K players (which is a long shot at the moment), but that is not very large when compared to AAA shooters. Both games will likely stay niche, since they are generally pretty complicated, and require an adult's view of gaming (politics, economics, fittings, etc.). A lot of AAA shooters just don't offer that experience. Just because Dust is a lobby shooter at the moment, doesn't mean that CCP intends for it to stay that way forever. Imagine being able to get picked up by Eve pilots, and dropped into a titan in the middle of a battle. Eventually, we should even be able to shoot down Eve pilots from the ground fights (a more realistic addition than titan infiltration, but I dream).