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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:38:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:OP you are in a abuse relationship with the entire forum, please stop making threads because people(Me) will come here and beat you over the head with a logic bat until you learn. You don't seem to have enough likes so heres one |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
668
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:39:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:OP you are in a abuse relationship with the entire forum, please stop making threads because people(Me) will come here and beat you over the head with a logic bat until you learn. You don't seem to have enough likes so heres one
No you ruined my 666 likes. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
501
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:43:00 -
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heck yes OP tanks will crush you in to tiny bits. maybe if there was more than one of you on a team you could do something to stop it but since all matches are 1v1 and you don't have any form of clan like system, or voice chat, or other means of organizing you are so screwed!
HTFU friendo |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:47:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:OP you are in a abuse relationship with the entire forum, please stop making threads because people(Me) will come here and beat you over the head with a logic bat until you learn. You don't seem to have enough likes so heres one No you ruined my 666 likes. My 420, 666, and 1337 likes got ruined so I'm just spreading the love |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
3760
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:53:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:OP you are in a abuse relationship with the entire forum, please stop making threads because people(Me) will come here and beat you over the head with a logic bat until you learn. You don't seem to have enough likes so heres one No you ruined my 666 likes. My 420, 666, and 1337 likes got ruined so I'm just spreading the love you'll get over it when you see 1000 get close. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
451
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:3 AV to kill a tank? ONE TANK?
6 people for 2 Tanks ? 9 people for 3 tanks? 12 people for 4 tanks? 15 people for 5 tanks?
That adds up quickly. In fact I while back I actually made a thread about this.
That's not good reasoning.
Why should you be able to solo infantry? Because you are in a tank?
You should be weak and succeptable to AV because it's AV. THAT'S IT DOING IT'S JOB!
You clearly want tanks to be OP and without any AV resistance whatsoever. Good attempt at trying to "balance " this issue
ahem....:
3 people for one tank.
3 people take down a single tank. the same 3 people take down 2 more tanks. the same 3 people take down 4 more tanks. the same 3 people take down a full squad of tanks.
honestly the only way youd need more than 3 people dealing with us is if your too damn ******** to go after more than one target. when youv destroyed one already... are you too tired to run after you kill one of us off that you need another 3 people to take your place?
your making it seem like AV are too damn stupid to destroy multiple targets (which I can say for 95% of the community, that's true).[/quote] [/quote]
Does this account for the tanks shooting at you while you try to kill 1 of them? Pincer tanking is a very real and effective strategy.
Tanks getting a buff might not be a problem in Skirmish or Domination, but tanks in Ambush is already unbalanced. Buffing them more without removing them from Ambush will make the mode unplayable for new players and extremely tedious to the point where it's not worth playing for everyone else. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:03:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:OP you are in a abuse relationship with the entire forum, please stop making threads because people(Me) will come here and beat you over the head with a logic bat until you learn. You don't seem to have enough likes so heres one No you ruined my 666 likes. My 420, 666, and 1337 likes got ruined so I'm just spreading the love you'll get over it when you see 1000 get close. I'm already past 2000 though lol. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1953
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:14:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Atiim wrote:3 AV to kill a tank? ONE TANK?
6 people for 2 Tanks ? 9 people for 3 tanks? 12 people for 4 tanks? 15 people for 5 tanks?
That adds up quickly. In fact I while back I actually made a thread about this.
That's not good reasoning.
Why should you be able to solo infantry? Because you are in a tank?
You should be weak and succeptable to AV because it's AV. THAT'S IT DOING IT'S JOB!
You clearly want tanks to be OP and without any AV resistance whatsoever. Good attempt at trying to "balance " this issue ahem....: 3 people for one tank.3 people take down a single tank. the same 3 people take down 2 more tanks. the same 3 people take down 4 more tanks. the same 3 people take down a full squad of tanks. honestly the only way youd need more than 3 people dealing with us is if your too damn ******** to go after more than one target. when youv destroyed one already... are you too tired to run after you kill one of us off that you need another 3 people to take your place? your making it seem like AV are too damn stupid to destroy multiple targets (which I can say for 95% of the community, that's true). [/quote]
Does this account for the tanks shooting at you while you try to kill 1 of them? Pincer tanking is a very real and effective strategy.
Tanks getting a buff might not be a problem in Skirmish or Domination, but tanks in Ambush is already unbalanced. Buffing them more without removing them from Ambush will make the mode unplayable for new players and extremely tedious to the point where it's not worth playing for everyone else.[/quote]
no tanks in ambush?
remove AV from skirmish or domination, fair is fair |
ABadMutha13
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
61
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:ABadMutha13 wrote:Atiim wrote:Yeah Yea YEAH!
Nerf AV they are OP as heck, and they can kill me!
The best way to kill a tank should be a tank! AV is not meant for being ANTI-VEHICLE, it is meant for supporting tanks and we can't have anything counter tanks but tanks!
We should have tanks that have 25000 shields and 150000 armor, just like a CRU.
And we should solo infantry and go 55/0, but infantry shouldn't solo us.
AV scrubs should have to use 3 people to take out one tank, regardless of how many tanks are on the field at the same time, and after all, thier SMG should be able to save them from infantry with primary weapons, or we could just make them run commando suits!
TANKS! TANKS! TANKS!
Make them god please! Because that is clearly what they want Short bus get you home early today? You totally ambushed my tank last night after I killed yours, if it weren't for your swarm buddy I just might have escaped, but you just kind of ninja'd up behind me at ramming speed
That was a fun match, chased you off, then you came back with the old "LAV / Forge Combo".
Although my favorite was pinning you to my bumper and shooting you at the very end.
Good match and at least kept me entertained. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
363
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:34:00 -
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I think my work here is done.
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1956
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done.
pretty much...
youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
363
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:43:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done. pretty much... youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks
So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP.
Then i'll just use my tank and still do good.
The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation.
On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't.
But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad.
So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say:
Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
703
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:46:00 -
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Apparently you dont remember the Surya and Sagaris in Chromo. The current tanks are tissue paper compared to those. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1163
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:52:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Apparently you dont remember the Surya and Sagaris in Chromo. The current tanks are tissue paper compared to those. They were only tanky because people didn't use any AV but AV grenades and militia swarms. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
703
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:56:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Apparently you dont remember the Surya and Sagaris in Chromo. The current tanks are tissue paper compared to those. They were only tanky because people didn't use any AV but AV grenades and militia swarms.
I had proto swarms back then as well and those tanks were a pain to try to take out. Felt like a real accomplishment to take one out. The only way for tankers to survive now is through speed to get out of the line of fire if they start getting hit. I rarely use my swarms anymore because its just not fair. I have a harder time taking out a LLAV than I do a Maddy. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1956
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done. pretty much... youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP. Then i'll just use my tank and still do good. The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation. On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't. But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad. So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say: Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
so your saying that if tanks are finally able to survive something and be a viable class, they will become OP?
biggest scrub ever..
tanks are one of the biggest jokes in the game, FACT.
by the way things are, nobody new want to go into tanks because its **** and nearly dead, only those of us that know what to do are able to do anything, and there are maybe 10 of us left (your no tanker).
if tanks are finally able to survive, they will be a viable class for once... get that through your biased cod scrub head |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
892
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:10:00 -
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You can start sucking my particle accelerator. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
364
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:15:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done. pretty much... youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP. Then i'll just use my tank and still do good. The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation. On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't. But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad. So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say: Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
so your saying that if tanks are finally able to survive something and be a viable class, they will become OP? biggest scrub ever.. tanks are one of the biggest jokes in the game, FACT. by the way things are, nobody new want to go into tanks because its **** and nearly dead, only those of us that know what to do are able to do anything, and there are maybe 10 of us left (your no tanker). if tanks are finally able to survive, they will be a viable class for once... get that through your biased cod scrub head No i'm saying that the way people are going about this is all wrong, and would/will lead to chaos.
Just picture the SOPA act that was proposed in the US, I don't know where you live, so i'll just leave this here
You've yet to prove me wrong, you say that I'm no tanker, and yet you still have yet to prove me wrong about being a tanker.
A biased COD scrub? LOL I've only played COD once, and then proceeded to have my friend pay for the pizza as payback for making me play that boring, repetitive POS game.
And again you aren't baised? YOU ARE THE MOST BIASED PERSON I'VE MET ON THE FORUMS! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
3760
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:18:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Apparently you dont remember the Surya and Sagaris in Chromo. The current tanks are tissue paper compared to those. They were only tanky because people didn't use any AV but AV grenades and militia swarms. I had proto swarms back then as well and those tanks were a pain to try to take out. Felt like a real accomplishment to take one out. The only way for tankers to survive now is through speed to get out of the line of fire if they start getting hit. I rarely use my swarms anymore because its just not fair. I have a harder time taking out a LLAV than I do a Maddy. i was running advanced swarms back then on a logi suit with 3 damage mods, and those things were a ***** to try and take down, took some serious time and effort to kill those things.
still was always worth it |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1957
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote: You've yet to prove me wrong, you say that I'm no tanker, and yet you still have yet to prove me wrong about being a tanker.
A biased COD scrub? LOL I've only played COD once, and then proceeded to have my friend pay for the pizza as payback for making me play that boring, repetitive POS game.
And again you aren't baised? YOU ARE THE MOST BIASED PERSON I'VE MET ON THE FORUMS!
you have yet to say why tanks shouldn't be able to survive anything other than the stupid "well I get killed by militia guys all the time, and I make back my isk in one match", there are no reasons tanks shouldn't be buffed and there are many, many reasons tanks shouldn't be ignored |
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
286
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:28:00 -
[51] - Quote
Tanks with substantial SP invested into them are difficult to destroy; it's just that too many pilots are greedy and will sit there and take all the AV thrown at it.
Conversely tanks with little to no SP invested in them are too easy to destroy and its virtually impossible to win any confrontation with a tank fitted with higher tier equipment.
Fortunately, CCP's vehicle overhaul seems to addresses the real imbalances regarding vehicles and not the QQ of shoddy forum tankers that Atiim pokes with a stick. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
705
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:30:00 -
[52] - Quote
medomai grey wrote:Tanks with substantial SP invested into them are difficult to destroy; it's just that too many pilots are greedy and will sit there and take all the AV thrown at it.
Conversely tanks with little to no SP invested in them are too easy to destroy and its virtually impossible to win any confrontation with a tank fitted with higher tier equipment.
Fortunately, CCP's vehicle overhaul seems to addresses the real imbalances regarding vehicles and not the QQ of shoddy forum tankers that Atiim pokes with a stick.
Maybe I read this wrong but are you calling Void and Maple shoddy tankers? |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done. pretty much... youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP. Then i'll just use my tank and still do good. The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation. On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't. But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad. So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say: Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
Atiim, the reason tanks won't be OP as much as you whine about is this.
1. You can hide from tanks in the interiors of the outposts
2. You can get a militia rail tank and snipe them with the same effectiveness as before.
AV will just become less if a hard counter like it is now, and more of a deterrent as you wait for an allied AV tank to kill it for you |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
365
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote: You've yet to prove me wrong, you say that I'm no tanker, and yet you still have yet to prove me wrong about being a tanker.
A biased COD scrub? LOL I've only played COD once, and then proceeded to have my friend pay for the pizza as payback for making me play that boring, repetitive POS game.
And again you aren't baised? YOU ARE THE MOST BIASED PERSON I'VE MET ON THE FORUMS!
you have yet to say why tanks shouldn't be able to survive anything other than the stupid "well I get killed by militia guys all the time, and I make back my isk in one match", there are no reasons tanks shouldn't be buffed and there are many, many reasons tanks shouldn't be ignored. also, you have yet to give any proof that you are a tanker. Ok, I'll be on in an hour, and if your available then I'll show you my tank.
I never said tanks shouldn't be buffed or AV shouldn't be nerfed. But the way you are going about nerfing AV will make them useless. And then there are guys who think AV was built for support. I think they need to stop drinking before they get on the Dust (I mean Tank) 514 forums.
When did I say I get killed by MLT guys?
And yeah you have no grounds calling me biased when you clearly super biased in this issue.
I bet you 20 Million that I'm a tanker
And if I lose then I'll also create a thread saying that i'm wrong, send apologizes to any tanker in that thread via DUST (I mean Tank) mail. And I'll never use AV again. Even MLT AV |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
366
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:59:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:I think my work here is done. pretty much... youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are. Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP. Then i'll just use my tank and still do good. The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation. On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't. But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad. So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say: Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
Atiim, the reason tanks won't be OP as much as you whine about is this. 1. You can hide from tanks in the interiors of the outposts 2. You can get a militia rail tank and snipe them with the same effectiveness as before. AV will just become less if a hard counter like it is now, and more of a deterrent as you wait for an allied AV tank to kill it for you 1.) Yeah and what about outdoor maps? Should I sit there and pray that the tank doesn't do anything?
2.) I shouldn't have to use a MLT railgun to deal with a tank
And so yet again we have another person who believes that the best counter to a tank should be a tank? You clearly don't know what AV stands for, as it means ANTI-VEHICLE, not Temporary watergun untill another tank comes, and once again not everyone has a Tank.
The best, strongest, and most absolute counter to Vehicles should be ANTI-VEHICLE. AV was designed to do just that, and when did CCP say that the best counter to a Tank should be a Tank?
The fact that you believe that AV should just be "support waterguns" for tankers to use while in combat is ludicrous. It doesn't even follow the common rock paper scissors design.
If the best counter to a tank is a tank then that would require everyone to have a tank to be effective, and will lead to this game becoming TANK 514, (hence the OP) |
Xender17
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
852
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:05:00 -
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The only reason a team would lose against a tank would because they sacrifice AI room for AV. Where they could just sacrifice one to scare em off. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
366
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Xender17 wrote:The only reason a team would lose against a tank would because they sacrifice AI room for AV. Where they could just sacrifice one to scare em off. Yeah, and when people realize that all 1 AV could do is scare them off then what?
It's like me holding a gun at someone who broke into my house with a knife to scare them off, but then they realize that it's a watergun... I think you know what happens next. |
Harpyja
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
639
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Yeah Yea YEAH!
Nerf AV they are OP as heck, and they can kill me!
The best way to kill a tank should be a tank! AV is not meant for being ANTI-VEHICLE, it is meant for supporting tanks and we can't have anything counter tanks but tanks!
We should have tanks that have 25000 shields and 150000 armor, just like a CRU.
And we should solo infantry and go 55/0, but infantry shouldn't solo us.
AV scrubs should have to use 3 people to take out one tank, regardless of how many tanks are on the field at the same time, and after all, thier SMG should be able to save them from infantry with primary weapons, or we could just make them run commando suits!
TANKS! TANKS! TANKS!
Make them god please! Because that is clearly what they want
Just thought I'd compile the wishes of tankers into one thread. Can you QQ some more please? Tears are worth more than gold! |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
367
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:12:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:Yeah Yea YEAH!
Nerf AV they are OP as heck, and they can kill me!
The best way to kill a tank should be a tank! AV is not meant for being ANTI-VEHICLE, it is meant for supporting tanks and we can't have anything counter tanks but tanks!
We should have tanks that have 25000 shields and 150000 armor, just like a CRU.
And we should solo infantry and go 55/0, but infantry shouldn't solo us.
AV scrubs should have to use 3 people to take out one tank, regardless of how many tanks are on the field at the same time, and after all, thier SMG should be able to save them from infantry with primary weapons, or we could just make them run commando suits!
TANKS! TANKS! TANKS!
Make them god please! Because that is clearly what they want
Just thought I'd compile the wishes of tankers into one thread. Can you QQ some more please? Tears are worth more than gold! Nah, but ill give you some buckets form POS tankers like you who do literally the most dumbest sh*t i've ever seen and then cry when AV destroys you because of it.
More than gold huh? Ok 20lbs of 20 carat gold for a 3 gallon bucket |
Harpyja
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
639
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:12:00 -
[60] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:
pretty much...
youv once again shown how incredibly ignorant and stupid you are.
Nah, i've stated my points, and clearly everyone favors tanks So, instead of trying to keep things balanced, I'm gonna just wait for tanks to be OP. Then i'll just use my tank and still do good. The situation is kind of a mix between a losing battle, and a win/win situation. On one hand, you want tanks to be OP, and I don't. But on the other hand, I also use tanks; so if they become OP, I won't be any less sad. So i'll just let the community live with this decision, and when this becomes Tank 514, and HAVs are the next Flaylock Pistol, i'll just be here to say: Atiim wrote: I TOLD YOU SO!
Atiim, the reason tanks won't be OP as much as you whine about is this. 1. You can hide from tanks in the interiors of the outposts 2. You can get a militia rail tank and snipe them with the same effectiveness as before. AV will just become less if a hard counter like it is now, and more of a deterrent as you wait for an allied AV tank to kill it for you 1.) Yeah and what about outdoor maps? Should I sit there and pray that the tank doesn't do anything? 2.) I shouldn't have to use a MLT railgun to deal with a tank And so yet again we have another person who believes that the best counter to a tank should be a tank? You clearly don't know what AV stands for, as it means ANTI-VEHICLE, not Temporary watergun untill another tank comes, and once again not everyone has a Tank. The best, strongest, and most absolute counter to Vehicles should be ANTI-VEHICLE. AV was designed to do just that, and when did CCP say that the best counter to a Tank should be a Tank? The fact that you believe that AV should just be "support waterguns" for tankers to use while in combat is ludicrous. It doesn't even follow the common rock paper scissors design. If the best counter to a tank is a tank then that would require everyone to have a tank to be effective, and will lead to this game becoming TANK 514, (hence the OP) Tanks should be the hardest hitting AV on the field. No handheld weapon should rival the power of a tank mounted turret. End of discussion. |
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