I use an ADV HMG with a ADV heavy suit .....so i honestly think that YOU are in crack. The only problem with the HMG is the aiming... or to be precise the fact that you have to AIM and not just spray and pray... but the AR have exactly the same problem.

If you find the HMG hard to use is because you aiming SUCKS.

This is the best sentence ever written.

Heavies are fine, just dump 300k SP into the LLAV(which is getting removed) and then drop a couple hundred thousand ISK so that you are not a sitting duck.

Balance!

Did I say it was hard to use?

Learn to read.

I have no problems with the HMG, but to say that it is better than the AR defeats your argument because everyone knows it isn't true.

So please, continue to try and spin your BS, but I will have none of it.

You just refuse to admit you are wrong, and that is ok, I have seen many stuborn children like you before. Keep telling yourself you are fighting the good fight.

Hey, just because some guys figured out how to actually play a heavy like someone who leads the charge and kicks in the door doesnt mean you should be upset because you are still the dumb fat kind trundling out into the open to get killed
But if thats to hard then just use the HMG for what it was designed to do, point defense, Im sure we all know what a pain it is to try and take a point in an installation thats guarded by a heavy at a choke point
The new installations in particular have a lot of nice spots to set up and throw a wall of bullets at anyone unfortunate enough to poke their head through a hall or doorway

I head shoot people with my HMG as easily as with the AR... As a person that uses both regularly, i'll say that the balance between the two is nearly perfect. Except that in CQC the HMG is a monster .....

Wow, you just get sillier.

So, the heavy class needs to invest SP and money in a vehicle if they want to not be forced to sit on a flag. Good to know that is how you see the gameplay going forward.

Heavy on point defense is a problem? LOL, flank, strafe, grenade. All will devastate heavies, except from the good ones, who are few and far between.

Any chokepoint where a heavy could potentially lock something down will leave him just as vulnerable as any other suit to getting scanned, mass driven, or grenaded out of the chokepoint.

Calling heavies PD only is the same thing as asking for them to be taken out of the game. There is no reason for the heavy suit to be PD when other suits can perform the job much better.

AR users unite! Other people still want to play other classes, kill them with fire!

You must not be very good if you complain about all these things that can kill you and as for point defense take that up with the Devs, they have stated before that heavies are the defenders and not the first wave guys kicking in doors

Also have you ever heard of setting up somewhere not in the direct line of fire? There is this amazing thing you can do where you stand at an angle from the opening to a room so when someone enters you have a direct bead on them before they have one on you
This might be a little advanced for you though if the mean old AR guys with grenades are giving you as much trouble as your whining indicates
Of course how you could have so much trouble in a suit that gives you 1k EHP if your core skills are up is beyond me, hell thats even before you add any modules
But go ahead, complain about stuff that only damages you while it outright kills others in different suits, that doesnt under mine you at all

Do YOU have any idea what you are talking about?

Expecting to win just because you put down more isk is the definition of pay to win and is something that should be discouraged at all costs

Also Scouts =/= Nova Knives, I shouldnt have to explain that a drop suit is not a weapon and though I know a lot of scouts cry they cant do anything their mobility is unmatched, I can easily hop over a railing in a scout suit I need a running start to vault in a medium and if Im in a heavy forget about it
Now if you ask me if that mobility is well utilized by a lot of people I will say hell no, a lot of scouts I see still try to play like hit detection for all guns was broken and try to charge head on with a shotgun bunny hopping along the way
On the other hand if you ask me if our current map design allows for that mobility to be used in creative ways Ill say no it doesnt and current maps should be reworked if possible and future maps designed with areas only scouts can reach and pass through which would drastically increase their effect in the field
But as I said that is a map problem, not a problem inherent in the scout suit itself, just as the abundance of wide open spaces makes the HMG less effective since theres enough space to dodge easily and engage from outside its effective range on most maps
Ive noticed heavies are more adaptable though and have taken to cruising in LLAVs and jumping out right next to you which drastically minimizes their vulnerability window and eliminates the range disadvantage

and no your pay to win argument is invalid. pay to win paying REAL money to own the battlefield. if someone calls in a 2 million isk tank that costs 10 matches to get back, he DAMN well better be owning the battlefield. not a hard concept. all of the dropsuits from one team combined=the price of 1 well fitted vayu/falchion.

Yeah, the difference is that is nothing wrong with the AR, it have never been... if they nerf the AR to the point that is useless, is only fair that they also give people a respec, or get ready for an exodus of people.

You seriously that arrogant, that you believe people are going to grind millions of SP again to satisfy your ego ? We talking about 90 % of the community here.... not just few players.

You cannot balance with ISK.

Just because tanks are expensive, does not mean they are a magical trump card, nor should they be.

Tanks should be strong because they are tanks, not because they are expensive.

i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed?

what about the Core Flaylocks?
Tankers?
Scouts?
Nova Knives?
Dropships?

none of them got respecs when they were nerfed.

all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!"

but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec.

anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout.

no hate towards you bro. just a general statement.

I want a huge difference between active and passive tanks. People should have to choose between 30-60 seconds of brick or justbe a sodden ppiece of wood.

So because we chose a weapon that was not the AR and it got nerfed, we are not entitled to a respec but u r? I hope the AR is nerfed into oblivion just to see all of you cry. Remember how just about everyone had to adapt to nerfs. I spent 2 months worth of SPninto tanks that got nerfed. 1 month into callogi which got nerfed. I had to grind to become competitive and so will you. Of will be so sweet when submachine guns are ripping you apart in optimum range :) or when you try to take heavies head on and melt. Yup :) revenge is sweet. The nerf hammer spares no one....NO RESPECS ;)

If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that.

Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know.

You cannot balance with ISK.

Just because tanks are expensive, does not mean they are a magical trump card, nor should they be.

Tanks should be strong because they are tanks, not because they are expensive.

You cannot balance with ISK.

Just because tanks are expensive, does not mean they are a magical trump card, nor should they be.

Tanks should be strong because they are tanks, not because they are expensive.

yeah, a year of using the best weapon in the game at the lowest fitting cost in the game wasn't really enough.

I think this guy should get a respec, and no one else.

jagoff.

I don't think you should post with a name like "Low Genius" .. it just makes you sound a lot stupider every time you say something ignorant.

Ar scrubs take heed. Current ar is gallente high dps high rof, mixed with generalist CoD ar that does near equivelant damages at all ranges. If you want CoD ar, grab a minmatar ar. If you want Cqc bullet hose that loses at longer ranges, grab a gallente ar.
Currently the AR has CoD ar mechanics with EvE gallente mechanics. IT IS THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN KILL AT 130+ METERS!

Rant aside, i have nabbed full hp kills using mlt ar at 120+ meters. Whereas the Lazor Riffle loses outside 90.5 meters. That is wrong. Ar noobs need to have their amarrageddon, and this is coming from a minmatarian.