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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1901
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:24:00 -
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If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. 
Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4094
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:28:00 -
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Then the SCR will get nerfed, then X weapon, until we get to the plasma cannon which still won't be safe. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1622
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:33:00 -
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Yea it will suck but that's what happens when victims cry to the police with full on wailing. The community is bent on nerfing every weapon that kills them. Now its all about the heavies. Then when they get buff, the community will respond with "Nerf the Heavies!!". Just imagine the Caldari heavy qq threads when they release them. I'm telling you they are going to be inbound.
It's utter nonsense and also discouraging to a certain degree. Folks are crying about weapons when we don't even have every racial variant weapon and dropsuit.
I intend to stick with the Gallente AR. As I get better with it, it will be a nice eff you to all those qq'ers who insisted it wasn't their tactics as a problem but the weapon. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7151
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:35:00 -
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Respecs for everyone.
It's not even about skills being removed, but skills being added as well. Some if not many of the new skills could be considered "mandatory" in a given build, such as the vehicle skills that increase module duration 5% per level, or reduce module cooldown by 5% per level. These are skills that no one would ever pass up, yet if they are simply added, it will be as if every player made the decision to not choose these crucial core skills.
Respec is the only way to make sure everything is fair. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
204
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:29:00 -
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i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed?
what about the Core Flaylocks?
Tankers?
Scouts?
Nova Knives?
Dropships?
none of them got respecs when they were nerfed.
all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!"
but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec. 
anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout.
no hate towards you bro. just a general statement. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1056
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:41:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know.
I don't like my assault suit because 1 equipment slot...I wanted to respec into logi cuz lets face it the assault is going no where and is useless but you guys said no respec blah blah...so guess who has to grind now? You ar scrubs so now we are even...that is all |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1905
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:43:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. I don't like my assault suit because 1 equipment slot...I wanted to respec into logi cuz lets face it the assault is going no where and is useless but you guys said no respec blah blah...so guess who has to grind now? You ar scrubs so now we are even...that is all
Yeah, the difference is that is nothing wrong with the AR, it have never been... if they nerf the AR to the point that is useless, is only fair that they also give people a respec, or get ready for an exodus of people.
You seriously that arrogant, that you believe people are going to grind millions of SP again to satisfy your ego ? We talking about 90 % of the community here.... not just few people. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1540
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:52:00 -
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Where did this fear of the AR being nerfed even come from?
I'm assuming CCP knows this, but we need a standard. Molecular masses are RELATIVE to Carbon 12!
Which means, if we go change the RMM of C-12, everything has to change.
The AR is to DUST as C-12 is to chemistry. Balance AROUND the AR, but stop changing it. Something has to remain constant, goddamnit. |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
710
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:05:00 -
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Nerf the AR, but don't give respecs. At least not right away. I need time to exact my vengeance while they squirt their water pistols!  |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
100
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:09:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed? what about the Core Flaylocks? Tankers? Scouts? Nova Knives? Dropships? none of them got respecs when they were nerfed. all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!" but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec. anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout. no hate towards you bro. just a general statement.
This guy understands. Just because CCP nerfs a weapon it doesn't come attached with a free respec card. Get over yourselves. Not going to happen just bc a weapon is nerfed sorry. All you need to do is look at the history with the past nerfs. No respecs there and herein lies your answer.
With the changes to the vechile skill tree I would expect at least a partial respec for any SP into vechile skills. I would assume if CCP changes the actually skill tree there will be partial respec for that particular tree. But not because something got nerfed.. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1905
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:11:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Nerf the AR, but don't give respecs. At least not right away. I need time to exact my vengeance while they squirt their water pistols!
In you dreams....Plenty of other ways to crash you Scrub ego ;
- Grenades Spam
- Mass Driver
- Plasma Cannon
- Assault SCR
- SCR Pistol
- Sniper Rifle
- SMG
And that is only few... pick one.
But yes, nerf the AR CCP... i going to enjoy killing the Scrubs in millions of different ways. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
300
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Respecs for everyone.
It's not even about skills being removed, but skills being added as well. Some if not many of the new skills could be considered "mandatory" in a given build, such as the vehicle skills that increase module duration 5% per level, or reduce module cooldown by 5% per level. These are skills that no one would ever pass up, yet if they are simply added, it will be as if every player made the decision to not choose these crucial core skills.
Respec is the only way to make sure everything is fair.
For once I totally agree with you, but you gotta remember its a ***** and a half for them to do respec's so they are waiting to introduce all the new changes at once so they can do 1 respec instead of a few, he even mentioned it at EVE Vegas. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2209
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:16:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed? what about the Core Flaylocks? Tankers? Scouts? Nova Knives? Dropships? none of them got respecs when they were nerfed. all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!" but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec. anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout. no hate towards you bro. just a general statement.
I have never seen any of the guys that support the assault rifle say there should be no respecs ever
In fact I see a lot of names that cry nerf the ar also cry no respecs
Niche players gotta step their game up such as tankers crying they get blown up when they park next to a CRU to farm kills or scouts crying they get killed so easily ever since hit detection was fixed shattering their egos and idea they were just super bad ass ninjas that couldnt be touched
But lets the tears flow like whine, when the range on the AR gets brought down to ten meters like you whiners want Ill still have the scrambler rifle, combat rifle, and rail rifle
Or did you guys forget those will be added when the AR changes come and everyone of those weapons has a better range |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
249
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:16:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know.
I ran this through google-translate, to be sure I understood it correctly
After translating, Banning Hammer wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1906
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:25:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. I ran this through google-translate, to be sure I understood it correctly After translating, Banning Hammer wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh
Nahh, it translates like ;
If you nerf something that isn't broken just to satisfy the ego of few morons, you better compensate all the innocent people that will suffer.... or get ready to lose lots of loyal vets that have been with you for nearly a year.
I personally won't take that **** ... that will be the final drop .... |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
303
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:32:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:G Torq wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. I ran this through google-translate, to be sure I understood it correctly After translating, Banning Hammer wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh Nahh, it translates like ; If you nerf something that isn't broken just to satisfy the ego of few morons, you better compensate all the innocent people that will suffer.... or get ready to lose lots of loyal vets that have been with you for nearly a year. I personally won't take that **** ... that will be the final drop ....
but the ar is broken....very broken, it has no falloff. it deals full damage from minimum to maximum range, making it the go to weapon for every situation except incredibly long ranges. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1906
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:34:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:G Torq wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. I ran this through google-translate, to be sure I understood it correctly After translating, Banning Hammer wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh Nahh, it translates like ; If you nerf something that isn't broken just to satisfy the ego of few morons, you better compensate all the innocent people that will suffer.... or get ready to lose lots of loyal vets that have been with you for nearly a year. I personally won't take that **** ... that will be the final drop .... but the ar is broken....very broken, it has no falloff. it deals full damage from minimum to maximum range, making it the go to weapon for every situation except incredibly long ranges.
Again... the AR is not broken.. is actually the only weapon that is NOT broken. |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
1622
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:43:00 -
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Weapon X killed me there for Its overpowered. I don't get killed by ar users anymore unless I get teamed up on |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
304
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:48:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote: Snip.
If the Ar was a good weapon to use in most situations but not the best in every situation I would agree with you, but right now the AR is hands down the best weapon for every situation that falls within its range. Unlike other weapons in all of New Eden it does not suffer from fall off at all, loss of damage due to range, instead it deals full damage from point blank all the way out to its max range. Weapons like the SCR, lazer rifle, HMG, and smg have fall off within their ranges. SCR has a pretty crazy range but you can only really be effective with it within a certain distance. Lazer rifle actually deals less damage if you are much too close. I can hit and do a slight amount of damage to people with my SMG at AR ranges but unless I am up in their face the smg only scratches paint, as it should be. The HMG is absolute crap unless you are ontop of your opponent or have them in a narrow hallway. Why should 1 weapon, which is labeled as a short range high damage weapon be able to overwrite 3 other weapons due to not having any fall off, while the other are restricted not only by their falloff mechanics, but some by overheat as well? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1906
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:50:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Snip. Blah, blah, blah
Yes.. i already talk you.... the other weapons are broken, the AR is working as INTENDED. |
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SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
305
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:58:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Snip. Blah, blah, blah Yes.. i already talk you.... the other weapons are broken, the AR is working as INTENDED.
So you dismiss my comment because you don't agree with it, noted. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1907
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:00:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Snip. Blah, blah, blah Yes.. i already talk you.... the other weapons are broken, the AR is working as INTENDED. So you dismiss my comment because you don't agree with it, noted.
If you listening .... i do agree with you, but not with the solution to the problem.
You say nerfing ..... i say Buffing. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
221
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:06:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed? what about the Core Flaylocks? Tankers? Scouts? Nova Knives? Dropships? none of them got respecs when they were nerfed. all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!" but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec. anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout. no hate towards you bro. just a general statement. I have never seen any of the guys that support the assault rifle say there should be no respecs ever In fact I see a lot of names that cry nerf the ar also cry no respecs Niche players gotta step their game up such as tankers crying they get blown up when they park next to a CRU to farm kills or scouts crying they get killed so easily ever since hit detection was fixed shattering their egos and idea they were just super bad ass ninjas that couldnt be touched But lets the tears flow like whine, when the range on the AR gets brought down to ten meters like you whiners want Ill still have the scrambler rifle, combat rifle, and rail rifle Or did you guys forget those will be added when the AR changes come and everyone of those weapons has a better range
judging by your likes, you obviously read the forums a lot, but do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?
how can you say tankers have no right to cry when a 2 million isk tank can be solo'ed by one 100k isk suit?
how can you say scouts have no right to cry when Nova Knives hit detection is so broken, they are almost unuseable? whatever a scout can do, an assault or logi can do just as well, if not better.
i don't see why you're defending them. they threw us to sharks and now when its their turn, they get an exception? |
SHOCKNOFSKY
H.Y.S.T.E.R.I.A
22
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:37:00 -
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I have been playing for almost 5 months now and rarely use any weapon but the AR because of personal preference. I think it is pretty balanced considering 90% of Dust players use the AR, and 90% of the time I die from explosive/splash damage weapons, or sniper rifles. I don't see a problem with the AR. That is all, thank you. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
94
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:46:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know.
What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1908
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:50:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case.
Actually ... the AR users are normally the quiet ones that never QQ about anything... all the nerfing happens between Scout with shotguns and Heavies with HMG's.
A bit like Elephants V's Flies ..... |
SHOCKNOFSKY
H.Y.S.T.E.R.I.A
23
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:53:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case.
Drink your apple juice, and get back to your nap... |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:09:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case. Actually ... the AR users are normally the quiet ones that never QQ about anything... all the nerfing happens between Scout with shotguns and Heavies with HMG's. A bit like Elephants V's Flies .....
Sorry you must be on a different forum.Ar users are the first to QQ on the forum. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:10:00 -
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SHOCKNOFSKY wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case. Drink your apple juice, and get back to your nap...
Sorry you must be dreaming in your crib again. Dont worry momma ccp will be there to breast feed you soon. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1119
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:12:00 -
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AR nerf? link? |
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