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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1908
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:15:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case. Actually ... the AR users are normally the quiet ones that never QQ about anything... all the nerfing happens between Scout with shotguns and Heavies with HMG's. A bit like Elephants V's Flies ..... Sorry you must be on a different forum.Ar users are the first to QQ on the forum.
Nahh.. you definitely in the wrong forum...Scouts nerfed the HMG and the Heavy suit... then the heavies nerfed the Scout and the Shotgun.. both of them nerfed the sniper rifle... and is because all the crap that we have weapons like the Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon, Forge Gun and OP grenades ...
David Versus Goliath .... Scouts thinks that David is the best... Heavies thinks that Goliath is the best... you see the dilemma ?
AR users are just in the middle of all that Crap. |
Palatinate
Scrubs 4 Hire
57
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:23:00 -
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Wait. What exactly is the Caldari Assault Rifle? Can someone explain to me in detail? |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:31:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case. Actually ... the AR users are normally the quiet ones that never QQ about anything... all the nerfing happens between Scout with shotguns and Heavies with HMG's. A bit like Elephants V's Flies ..... Sorry you must be on a different forum.Ar users are the first to QQ on the forum. Nahh.. you definitely in the wrong forum...Scouts nerfed the HMG and the Heavy suit... then the heavies nerfed the Scout and the Shotgun.. both of them nerfed the sniper rifle... and is because all the crap that we have weapons like the Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon, Forge Gun and OP grenades ... David Versus Goliath .... Scouts thinks that David is the best... Heavies thinks that Goliath is the best... you see the dilemma ? AR users are just in the middle of all that Crap.
Ar users and their mental gymnastics..lol. Last time i check scouts took a hit because Ars complained the couldn't hit them. Ar users got scouts,heavies and non-Ar weapons nerfed but once the crutch is gone you'll wake up.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1911
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:35:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:
What makes Ar users so special? You guys got every other weapon nerfed then QQ about no respec to those weapon users. Now it might be your precious crutch and you deserve a respec. What a joke you guys are but you might get it since your ccps charity case.
Actually ... the AR users are normally the quiet ones that never QQ about anything... all the nerfing happens between Scout with shotguns and Heavies with HMG's. A bit like Elephants V's Flies ..... Sorry you must be on a different forum.Ar users are the first to QQ on the forum. Nahh.. you definitely in the wrong forum...Scouts nerfed the HMG and the Heavy suit... then the heavies nerfed the Scout and the Shotgun.. both of them nerfed the sniper rifle... and is because all the crap that we have weapons like the Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon, Forge Gun and OP grenades ... David Versus Goliath .... Scouts thinks that David is the best... Heavies thinks that Goliath is the best... you see the dilemma ? AR users are just in the middle of all that Crap. Ar users and their mental gymnastics..lol. Last time i check scouts took a hit because Ars complained the couldn't hit them. Ar users got scouts,heavies and non-Ar weapons nerfed but once the crutch is gone you'll wake up.
Obviously you have not idea .....all this started MONTHS ago... this mess right now, i just the results of a battle that happen in the Open Beta... nearly a year ago.
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1285
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:49:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
You say nerfing ..... i say Buffing.
Just so no to power creep. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:51:00 -
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If you say so been here since open beta.You can blame it on what you want.Fact is Assault ars are the majority and suits and weapons have been nerfed around them. There's really no point in convincing Ar user anything you still think the Ar isnt OP. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1911
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:57:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:[quote=Tek Hound][quote=Banning Hammer][quote=Tek Hound]
Obviously you have not idea .....all this started MONTHS ago... this mess right now, i just the results of a battle that happen in the Open Beta... nearly a year ago.
If you say so been here since open beta.You can blame it on what you want.Fact is Assault ars are the majority and suits and weapons have been nerfed around them. There's really no point in convincing Ar user anything you still think the Ar isnt OP.
Listen mate ... be quiet ... because you really have not IDEA... i was here when Heavies where everywhere and HMG's used to kill people from 500 meters away.. i was also here when scouts where impossible to kill and shotguns used to kill Heavies in ONE single shot. Scouts and Heavies destroyed each other ... and now they trying to do the same with the Assault suit and the AR. |
Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings
49
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea it will suck but that's what happens when victims cry to the police with full on wailing. The community is bent on nerfing every weapon that kills them. Now its all about the heavies. Then when they get buff, the community will respond with "Nerf the Heavies!!". Just imagine the Caldari heavy qq threads when they release them. I'm telling you they are going to be inbound.
It's utter nonsense and also discouraging to a certain degree. Folks are crying about weapons when we don't even have every racial variant weapon and dropsuit.
I intend to stick with the Gallente AR. As I get better with it, it will be a nice eff you to all those qq'ers who insisted it wasn't their tactics as a problem but the weapon. The only thing that needs a change is the range and it needs an overheat feature thats all only reason I say this is because it indeed is a "blaster weapon" short range heats up and powerful. My 2 isk in the matter.... also a heavy user |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
96
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:12:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:[quote=Tek Hound][quote=Banning Hammer]
Obviously you have not idea .....all this started MONTHS ago... this mess right now, i just the results of a battle that happen in the Open Beta... nearly a year ago.
If you say so been here since open beta.You can blame it on what you want.Fact is Assault ars are the majority and suits and weapons have been nerfed around them. There's really no point in convincing Ar user anything you still think the Ar isnt OP. Listen mate ... be quiet ... because you really have not IDEA... i was here when Heavies where everywhere and HMG's used to kill people from 500 meters away.. i was also here when scouts where impossible to kill and shotguns used to kill Heavies in ONE single shot. Scouts and Heavies destroyed each other ... and now they trying to do the same with the Assault suit and the AR.
Majority changes things not popularity wars. You have zero idea living in your Ar imaginary land.Out of all the Ar users you obvious have you mental gymnastics on high.Ccp favors Assualt Ar your QQ got everything nerfed and now your innocent...please just stop i can't laugh any more.
Ps.You mad |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1285
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
Listen mate ... be quiet ... because you really have not IDEA... i was here when Heavies where everywhere and HMG's used to kill people from 500 meters away.. i was also here when scouts where impossible to kill and shotguns used to kill Heavies in ONE single shot. Scouts and Heavies destroyed each other ... and now they trying to do the same with the Assault suit and the AR.
This is absurd.
Scouts and heavies destroyed each other, because the good little AR boys never said anything about anyone not using an AR killing them right?
Please put down the bag of glue, it is really bad for you long term. |
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
139
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:24:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Wait. What exactly is the Caldari Assault Rifle? Can someone explain to me in detail?
Soon, like December, they will release the Caldari Assault Rifle. It will be like the Gallente Assault Rifle, but it will likely have a scope and longer range...with lower dps. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:28:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
Listen mate ... be quiet ... because you really have not IDEA... i was here when Heavies where everywhere and HMG's used to kill people from 500 meters away.. i was also here when scouts where impossible to kill and shotguns used to kill Heavies in ONE single shot. Scouts and Heavies destroyed each other ... and now they trying to do the same with the Assault suit and the AR.
This is absurd. Scouts and heavies destroyed each other, because the good little AR boys never said anything about anyone not using an AR killing them right? Please put down the bag of glue, it is really bad for you long term.
Believe what you want... that is what happen. I remember clearly a period in Dust 154, when Assaults where just target practice for Heavies and Scouts, and the AR was pretty much ignored. All the QQing was Heavies complaining about Scouts, and Scouts complaining about Heavies. Do a search if you don't believe me. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1285
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:34:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
Believe what you want... that is what happen. I remember clearly a period in Dust 154, when Assaults where just target practice for Heavies and Scouts, and the AR was pretty much ignored. All the QQing was Heavies complaining about Scouts, and Scouts complaining about Heavies. Do a search if you don't believe me.
Just like you I have been here for awhile. My recollection of the events is very different from yours.
Then again, I am not trying to protect my precious do anything weapon. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:42:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
Believe what you want... that is what happen. I remember clearly a period in Dust 154, when Assaults where just target practice for Heavies and Scouts, and the AR was pretty much ignored. All the QQing was Heavies complaining about Scouts, and Scouts complaining about Heavies. Do a search if you don't believe me.
Just like you I have been here for awhile. My recollection of the events is very different from yours. Then again, I am not trying to protect my precious do anything weapon.
So you don't remember all the ;
Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shoot !!
or
Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!!
I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point ..... |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1287
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:46:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:So you don't remember all the ; Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shot !! or Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!! I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point .....
Played as a heavy all through open beta, never got OHK by a shotgun.
The people complaining about heavies on roofs were AR users who found themselves outranged because the heavy had dumped all his SP into HWSS.
Assaults with AR's were the most vocal opponents of anything being viable other than the AR, and you want to pretend like it isn't so.
Whatever, enjoy your nerf you crying pansy. I don't waste time on people who refuse to be realistic. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:50:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:So you don't remember all the ; Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shot !! or Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!! I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point ..... Played as a heavy all through open beta, never got OHK by a shotgun. The people complaining about heavies on roofs were AR users who found themselves outranged because the heavy had dumped all his SP into HWSS. Assaults with AR's were the most vocal opponents of anything being viable other than the AR, and you want to pretend like it isn't so. Whatever, enjoy your nerf you crying pansy. I don't waste time on people who refuse to be realistic.
Actually, i only use the AR sometimes... my favorite weapon is the Sniper rifle... even after all the nerfing ...I only use the AR because i invested so much SP on it. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1063
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:06:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:G Torq wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If this AR nerfing happens i want a respec of my AR skills, so i can fully spec into the SCR. I'm not grinding millions of SP again to fully Spec in another weapon, when i'm already done that. Also... no ninja nerfing CCP, because i will notice, and let everyone know. I ran this through google-translate, to be sure I understood it correctly After translating, Banning Hammer wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh Nahh, it translates like ; If you nerf something that isn't broken just to satisfy the ego of few morons, you better compensate all the innocent people that will suffer.... or get ready to lose lots of loyal vets that have been with you for nearly a year. I personally won't take that **** ... that will be the final drop .... I've talked to the vets they're cool with it...you think its just AR? If they don't increase its damage when they nerf the range then they will decrease the scr damage...its not like its the first weapon to get nerfed with no respecs and if your a vet then you know that |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1063
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:09:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:So you don't remember all the ; Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shot !! or Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!! I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point ..... Played as a heavy all through open beta, never got OHK by a shotgun. The people complaining about heavies on roofs were AR users who found themselves outranged because the heavy had dumped all his SP into HWSS. Assaults with AR's were the most vocal opponents of anything being viable other than the AR, and you want to pretend like it isn't so. Whatever, enjoy your nerf you crying pansy. I don't waste time on people who refuse to be realistic. Actually, i only use the AR sometimes... my favorite weapon is the Sniper rifle... even after all the nerfing ...I only use the AR because i invested so much SP on it. Yeah okay how much sp did assaults put in there suits? But no its just my ego because it doesn't effect you...use 1 equipment in pc then you realize how useless the assault suit is but keep saying its my ego |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:So you don't remember all the ; Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shot !! or Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!! I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point ..... Played as a heavy all through open beta, never got OHK by a shotgun. The people complaining about heavies on roofs were AR users who found themselves outranged because the heavy had dumped all his SP into HWSS. Assaults with AR's were the most vocal opponents of anything being viable other than the AR, and you want to pretend like it isn't so. Whatever, enjoy your nerf you crying pansy. I don't waste time on people who refuse to be realistic. Actually, i only use the AR sometimes... my favorite weapon is the Sniper rifle... even after all the nerfing ...I only use the AR because i invested so much SP on it. Yeah okay how much sp did assaults put in there suits? But no its just my ego because it doesn't effect you...use 1 equipment in pc then you realize how useless the assault suit is but keep saying its my ego
Yeah.. you missing the point.... How good is the HMG when you have maxed all the skills ? Or the SCR ? About as good or even better than the AR with maxed skills ?
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1188
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:So you don't remember all the ; Shotguns are OP, they are destroying my HEAVY suit in one shot !! or Heavies are sniping from the top of a roof with a HMG !!! I even remember CCP thinking about nerfing the ladders at one point ..... Played as a heavy all through open beta, never got OHK by a shotgun. The people complaining about heavies on roofs were AR users who found themselves outranged because the heavy had dumped all his SP into HWSS. Assaults with AR's were the most vocal opponents of anything being viable other than the AR, and you want to pretend like it isn't so. Whatever, enjoy your nerf you crying pansy. I don't waste time on people who refuse to be realistic. Actually, i only use the AR sometimes... my favorite weapon is the Sniper rifle... even after all the nerfing ...I only use the AR because i invested so much SP on it. Yeah okay how much sp did assaults put in there suits? But no its just my ego because it doesn't effect you...use 1 equipment in pc then you realize how useless the assault suit is but keep saying its my ego Yeah.. you missing the point.... How good is the HMG when you have maxed all the skills ? Or the SCR ? About as good or even better than the AR with maxed skills ? Scr Rifle is way more deadly!
HMG? hahahahahahaha **** no! |
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1289
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
Yeah.. you missing the point.... How good is the HMG when you have maxed all the skills ? Or the SCR ? About as good or even better than the AR with maxed skills ?
LOL no.
HMG vs AR is a no contest. AR wins 99% of the time.
AR vs ScR is harder to quantify, but in overall versatility, the AR still comes out on top. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1064
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Snip. Blah, blah, blah Yes.. i already talk you.... the other weapons are broken, the AR is working as INTENDED. Its a blaster get real...most vets have known this since closed beta short range |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:22:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
Yeah.. you missing the point.... How good is the HMG when you have maxed all the skills ? Or the SCR ? About as good or even better than the AR with maxed skills ?
LOL no. HMG vs AR is a no contest. AR wins 99% of the time. AR vs ScR is harder to quantify, but in overall versatility, the AR still comes out on top.
No... another one that have problems listening .... i said MAXED skills.... ;
Weapon Operation
Weapon Proficiency
Heat Reduction
Sharpshooter
And so on...
Are you trying to say that the HMG with maxed skill is worst than the AR ? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2211
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:23:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Delta 749 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i hope we get a respec, but really? now the AR boys are complaining they want a respec if they get nerfed? what about the Core Flaylocks? Tankers? Scouts? Nova Knives? Dropships? none of them got respecs when they were nerfed. all of you AR guys said, "NO RESPECS!" but now that you're in the path of the nerf hammer, you demand a respec. anyway, i hope we get a respec so i can properly rework my scout. no hate towards you bro. just a general statement. I have never seen any of the guys that support the assault rifle say there should be no respecs ever In fact I see a lot of names that cry nerf the ar also cry no respecs Niche players gotta step their game up such as tankers crying they get blown up when they park next to a CRU to farm kills or scouts crying they get killed so easily ever since hit detection was fixed shattering their egos and idea they were just super bad ass ninjas that couldnt be touched But lets the tears flow like whine, when the range on the AR gets brought down to ten meters like you whiners want Ill still have the scrambler rifle, combat rifle, and rail rifle Or did you guys forget those will be added when the AR changes come and everyone of those weapons has a better range judging by your likes, you obviously read the forums a lot, but do you have ANY idea what you're talking about? how can you say tankers have no right to cry when a 2 million isk tank can be solo'ed by one 100k isk suit? how can you say scouts have no right to cry when Nova Knives hit detection is so broken, they are almost unuseable? whatever a scout can do, an assault or logi can do just as well, if not better. i don't see why you're defending them. they threw us to sharks and now when its their turn, they get an exception?
Do YOU have any idea what you are talking about?
Expecting to win just because you put down more isk is the definition of pay to win and is something that should be discouraged at all costs
Also Scouts =/= Nova Knives, I shouldnt have to explain that a drop suit is not a weapon and though I know a lot of scouts cry they cant do anything their mobility is unmatched, I can easily hop over a railing in a scout suit I need a running start to vault in a medium and if Im in a heavy forget about it Now if you ask me if that mobility is well utilized by a lot of people I will say hell no, a lot of scouts I see still try to play like hit detection for all guns was broken and try to charge head on with a shotgun bunny hopping along the way On the other hand if you ask me if our current map design allows for that mobility to be used in creative ways Ill say no it doesnt and current maps should be reworked if possible and future maps designed with areas only scouts can reach and pass through which would drastically increase their effect in the field But as I said that is a map problem, not a problem inherent in the scout suit itself, just as the abundance of wide open spaces makes the HMG less effective since theres enough space to dodge easily and engage from outside its effective range on most maps Ive noticed heavies are more adaptable though and have taken to cruising in LLAVs and jumping out right next to you which drastically minimizes their vulnerability window and eliminates the range disadvantage |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1064
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:24:00 -
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Duvolle> carthum....iscr> tar...all> hmg |
Thumb Green
Novashift
485
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:30:00 -
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The hipster's hate for the AR is strong in this thread.
SgtDoughnut wrote:
but the ar is broken....very broken, it has no falloff. it deals full damage from minimum to maximum range, making it the go to weapon for every situation except incredibly long ranges.
Full damage up to maximum range? The hell it does; at 50M+ you're shooting pellets and at 70M+ you're shooting marshmallows. SgtDoughnut, you're either a liar or an idiot, possibly both.
Before any hipster calls me an AR fanboy or something along that line; I use every weapon except the FL, HMG, and PC . |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1292
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:30:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:No... another one that have problems listening .... i said MAXED skills.... ; Weapon Operation
Weapon Proficiency
Heat Reduction
Sharpshooter
And so on... Are you trying to say that the HMG with maxed skill is worst than the AR ?
Absolutely.
Actual DPS, Range, accuracy, the AR wins on all fronts. Add in the triple effective range and it is a no contest.
Are you actually trying to say the HMG is better than the AR? Are you on crack?
Please tell me how an HMG is better than an AR at anything other than marking up the walls behind the guy you are shooting at. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1292
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:32:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote: Ive noticed heavies are more adaptable though and have taken to cruising in LLAVs and jumping out right next to you which drastically minimizes their vulnerability window and eliminates the range disadvantage
This is the best sentence ever written.
Heavies are fine, just dump 300k SP into the LLAV(which is getting removed) and then drop a couple hundred thousand ISK so that you are not a sitting duck.
Balance!
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1912
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:35:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:No... another one that have problems listening .... i said MAXED skills.... ; Weapon Operation
Weapon Proficiency
Heat Reduction
Sharpshooter
And so on... Are you trying to say that the HMG with maxed skill is worst than the AR ? Absolutely. Actual DPS, Range, accuracy, the AR wins on all fronts. Add in the triple effective range and it is a no contest. Are you actually trying to say the HMG is better than the AR? Are you on crack? Please tell me how an HMG is better than an AR at anything other than marking up the walls behind the guy you are shooting at.
I use an ADV HMG with a ADV heavy suit .....so i honestly think that YOU are in crack. The only problem with the HMG is the aiming... or to be precise the fact that you have to AIM and not just spray and pray... but the AR have exactly the same problem.
If you find the HMG hard to use is because you aiming SUCKS. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2211
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:36:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The hipster's hate for the AR is strong in this thread. SgtDoughnut wrote:
but the ar is broken....very broken, it has no falloff. it deals full damage from minimum to maximum range, making it the go to weapon for every situation except incredibly long ranges.
Full damage up to maximum range? The hell it does; at 50M+ you're shooting pellets and at 70M+ you're shooting marshmallows. SgtDoughnut, you're either a liar or an idiot, possibly both. Before any hipster calls me an AR fanboy or something along that line; I use every weapon except the FL, HMG, and PC .
The real sad thing is you can still get kills at that range Not because the weapon is overpowered but because a lot of people are stupid and wont try to dodge at that range since the bullets only tickle Killed a heavy once at about 65 meters, he didnt strafe at all, didnt even try to close the gap, he just stood there spraying bullets at me Still took me two and a half clips to bring him down, if some people learned that even a small bit of side to side movement at that range makes tracking you harder especially while Im dodging return fire I bet there wouldnt be half as many guys crying about the ar |
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