why is it that a handheld weapon is on par with a railgun turret thats like 10 metres long? and 300,000 isk ??? if you havent guessed it by now yes i am crying about forge guns being OP , i think the issue is that they have to mutch ammo in a clip 3-4 shots is to ridiculous for a weapon that doesnt even overheat like a railgun does!! what do you guys think ? cry some moar or HTFU?

I think asking for changes to items that are slated to be changed 2 patches down the road is a waste of energy and time.

Also you suck at analyzing; large rail turrets are better than forge guns.

I think asking for changes to items that are slated to be changed 2 patches down the road is a waste of energy and time.

Also you suck at analyzing; large rail turrets are better than forge guns.

Okay.... do large rails do more damage? nope
Are large rails highly mobile? Nope can only go where a tank can.
Are large rails adaptable? Nope, forge can be effectively used from inside a building, around a corner, on top of a building etc.. All places Large rail cannot.
Can large rails hide? Nope! they can be seen from the map view no matter where they go! (forges cannot)

That's a lot of benefits to Large Rails eh?.... waiit a minuuuttee...

Confirming wallaby takes pills to get his **** hard because hes a ******.

ITS A SCI GAME ***** **** CAN DO ANYTHING IT WANTS!

sssshhhhhhhhhhhhh youl confuse it... its a rare opportunity to see a bluetard in the forums..... if you confuse it, it will leave

Comparing Forge Guns to Rail Turrets is apples and oranges.

Forge Guns have highly visible shots. Even the fastest is nine times slower to fire on the trigger pull. At this time still have limited ammunition. Also are restricted to a crappy buffer tank suit.

It really is funny how some people are selective in their analyst. Especially when it is oh-so-conveniently to their own benefit.

I think the Forge guns damage is fine, they just need to raise the price of proto FGs to 900,00 ISK, and allow swarmers to lock onto heavies. simple fix

Okay.... do large rails do more damage? nope
Are large rails highly mobile? Nope can only go where a tank can.
Are large rails adaptable? Nope, forge can be effectively used from inside a building, around a corner, on top of a building etc.. All places Large rail cannot.
Can large rails hide? Nope! they can be seen from the map view no matter where they go! (forges cannot)

That's a lot of benefits to Large Rails eh?.... waiit a minuuuttee...

Yea, you really suck at analysis. Stay the hell away from anything that requires you to draw conclusions because its really not your strong suit.

Normally when you compare two things to find out which is better, you have to be objective and weigh the positives and negatives that each option has. Something you are clearly not capable of.

Because CCP hasn't released the intended forge gun changes they plan to make as part of their vehicle overhaul, I am forced to assume that you are talking about current forge guns and large rail turrets. In which case, as I stated before, is pointless to discuss because CCP already intends to change them. Having said that, for your benefit, i will bother to compare the two items in question.

Large rail turrets have significantly longer range and rate of fire than forge guns. Rail turrets also have the ability to ADS and zoom in where as forge guns do not. Large rail turrets have infinite ammo but are restricted by a overheat mechanic. Conversely, forge guns have limited ammo but do not have an overheat mechanic. Both items have to charge before firing, but the rail turret may skip the charging process for every shot immediately fired after the first charged shot. Large rail turrets are restricted in how high and low they can aim where the forge gun has no such restriction. Large rail turrets may still have target rendering issues. Rail turrets are used on tanks that are faster, larger and sturdier than the only class of suit that can equip a forge gun, heavy suits.

In conclusion, current large rail turrets have the advantage over forge guns in range, accuracy, ammunition and rate of fire. However rail turrets suffer from limitations in how high and low they can aim and tend to have target rendering issues. As for the platforms that equip the two items, tanks are faster and more sturdier than heavy suits. Although the smaller heavy suit has access to areas that a tank would be restricted from on the account of its large size.

ERROR! TLDR

Comparing Forge Guns to Rail Turrets is apples and oranges.

Forge Guns have highly visible shots. Even the fastest is nine times slower to fire on the trigger pull. At this time still have limited ammunition. Also are restricted to a crappy buffer tank suit.

It really is funny how some people are selective in their analyst. Especially when it is oh-so-conveniently to their own benefit.

Comparing Forge Guns to Rail Turrets is apples and oranges.

Forge Guns have highly visible shots. Even the fastest is nine times slower to fire on the trigger pull. At this time still have limited ammunition. Also are restricted to a crappy buffer tank suit.

It really is funny how some people are selective in their analyst. Especially when it is oh-so-conveniently to their own benefit.

Of course it's too large for your puny brain to process. My apologies... on your puny brain. Nature can be so cruel sometimes.

lol yes you clearly are to smart for us poor little blueberries to handle , talking cr@p on a forum (clap clap clap) run along now you champion

lol 9 times slower you say? yes it really is funny how people are "selective in their analyst" ! , total BS last time i checked a skilled assault forge will charge in roughly 2 secs !!

Tiny brain and easily broken I see. Quitting already?

Proto Raild DMG 1784
Proto IAF 1500

The Breach FG ( the only one that surpass Rail damage) Has a charge time of 6 sec, while a proto turret 2,2.

And also LOCK YOU ON THE GROUND....

ahahahahahah quitting? yes did you expect me to argue with you? lolwtf get a life

yes but with proficiency skilled up the charge time is reduced

lol 9 times slower you say? yes it really is funny how people are "selective in their analyst" ! , total BS last time i checked a skilled assault forge will charge in roughly 2 secs !!

(Base Assault Forge Gun Firing Time * FG Opt at 5) / Large Rail Firing Time

(2.5 * 0.75)/0.2 = 9.375

Hence Large Rail Turrets fire nine times faster than the fastest Forge Gun.

how many times do we have to go through this topic!! Its all getting changed anyway lol

FG = higher Alpha dmg/ on a suit

Rail gun = higher DPS (scope)/ on a tank

What is the problem? i mean really?