I could live with a PRice increase in FG's and Swarms if their effectivness stays the same.

I agree Proto Tank turrets are too damn expensive and need at LEAST a -+ price reduction....

Of course it does. A terrible pilot in my tank would still be destroyed easily. Me in a Soma would still be destroyed easily because they're just that pathetically weak.

But then, you don't listen to anything tankers say, ever, because you're amazingly ignorant of the difficulties facing tankers and refuse to believe that it may be at all difficult.

A PRO turret does not a PRO tank make.

LOL! My English sucks??? LOL!

No one will deny you vehicle guys proto turrets aren't priced right when consider the rest of the tank + cost of what it takes to counter it. Anyone who says otherwise has an extra-chromosome.

But it also takes several AV to take out 1 tank. So multiply your figures to consider that + rest of suit as well.

Either way - I side with vehicle guys. AV isn't balanced for tanks.

Several? Lol no, just one to take us out of the fight while we rep our armor back. Infantry has the huge overbearing problem that they're not "rewarded" for merely taking a tank out of the battle for a minute. They can't solo it in 2 seconds, and that's not fair.

I concede - If I think about it - in PC it only takes 1 FG on a roof to cancel out any help tanks could make.

Cancels out tanks, LAVs, dropships, and a squad and a half.

Four forge gunners wins a game.

I guess nobody ever listened to older family speaking.

long time no see SoTa PoP...
full PRO FG FIT: 95K ISK
full PRO tank: 1.5mil ISK
dmg output EQUAL
regardless of HP difference PRO HVY FG fit is twice as difficult to kill
... LLAVs are another story tho...
but we aren't talking about them...
skilled PRO FGer kills Skilled PRO Tank in under 15 seconds
skilled PRO Tank is dead before he/she ever finds FGer...

lol... im a logi btw... not QQing

You think a Thale's is a guaranteed kill with a shot to the body against PRO heavy suits?

I guess nobody ever listened to older family speaking.

What you aren't thinking about is the fact that there are literally only FOUR weapons in this entire game that are not capable of killing a Heavy. These being AV grenades, Flux grenads, Proximity Mines, and Swarm Launchers. Every other weapon has the potential to kill a Heavy.
So, lets list the weapons capable of killing a Heavy Lets see...

Assault Rifle
Scrambler Rifle
Sniper Rifle
Shotgun
Mass Driver
Plasma Cannon
HMG
Forge Gun
Scrambler Pistol
Flaylock Pistol
SMG
Remote Explosives
Nova Knife
Locus Grenades

Take into account the different variants of these and there is A LOT of weapons on the field which can kill a Heavy, which are by and far much more prevalent on the battlefield than AV weapons. Indeed 100% of players on the battlefield are carrying at least 1 weapon which is capable of killing a Heavy at any given point in a match.

Lets see what can effectively destroy a HAV

AV Grenades
Swarm Launchers
Forge Guns
Proximity Mines

These maybe account for 10% of all weapons fielded in battle at any given time

Now take into account that your HAV has thousands more HP than a Heavy Dropsuit, with more speed. Your rail turrets have a zoom ability where a Forge Gun does not, a higher RoF, No reload time, No charge time.

So tell me which is better?

in (ENGLISH) our word order is different than every other language... and it was NEVER spoken that way. not even at its origin... my typing may suck, but as a linguist... I assure u, ur English just plain sucks... lol

Also remember that AV weapons require special tactics or infantry positioning to be effective against an HAV.

To kill a Heavy just strafe, point, shoot or hit him with explosives.

I take down Proto Heavies with Rep tool locked on them with only a Gek AR, with AR Op 2, AR SS 3 No Damage Mods. It's so easy it's pathetic.

wait... u forgot REs... but that aside... have u EVER tanked? Rail ZOOM? seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill

A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill

So you tell me - is it fair?

LIAR! BS! PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING... AR op lvl 2? GEK is unlocked at AR op lvl 3... buh-bye!

Oh well excuse me then AR Op 3

I'll correct that post, but it happened regardless.

This is a lie. I see proto FG and proto swarms on militia suits all time. Sure they are easy to kill, but you have to get to them first. Most times they are in very inaccessible places. Vehicles don't get the same luxury unfortunately.

AR SS is unlocked when???

If you're running a Prototype weapon on a MLT Dropsuit, you probably aren't running anything else.

"I don't know dude Op level 2? Would you like me to take a picture of my skill tree and fitting for you?Roll"
yes, yes... please post link here

lol gtfo dude ffs! you know what fine I will, just tell me a site I can upload a pic to with no hassle and I got you bruh!