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Mirataf WARRIORS 1NC 84	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:13:00 - [91] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: A PRO turret does not a PRO tank make. Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL! My English sucks??? LOL! I guess nobody ever listened to older family speaking. Or there are those of us that get it str8 away then have to scratch our heads working out why it looks wrong 'A PRO turret doth not a PRO tank make' Its not older just family speaking it comes from this ole dude called Aristotle by the way
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1169	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:51:00 - [92] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Heavy has greater mobility and a smaller signature, plus is cheaper, is more effective vs infantry with a height advantage, and the forge deals more damage than any large tank turret. Do contact grenades go after targets now, or was that nerfed? Because last I remember, swarms and AV grenades having a homing ability, and they're absolutely devastating against armor. If I wanted it easy, I'd still into the FOTM. Since I like things more difficult, I tank. You can't honestly say Heavies have better mobility than a HAV. The only thing we do faster is turn. Seriously, HAVs are able to outpace Minmatar Scouts, but you would have us believe Heavies have greater mobility? GTFO! A Forge Gun is more effective against infantry than a Blaster Tank? Lol what game are you playing, because it certainly is not DUST 514! The FG may deal more Alpha Damage than any tank turret, but tank turrets have a far superior DPS with even small turrets. Contact grenades do not need a "homing" mechanic because the blast radius is so ridiculously large that even a poorly placed Locus Grenade is near impossible for a Heavy to avoid. Now, perhaps you would like to comment constructively on the intent behind the original post: Fact: Everything that can kill a Tank can kill a Heavy much faster, with the exception of the Four weapons I listed in the original post. Fact: Any vehicle turret can kill a Heavy before even an Assault Forge Gun can charge. Fact: Heavies have much more to contend with on the battlefield than HAVs and do it with much much less HP Buffer or Repair. Spkr4theDead wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Also remember that AV weapons require special tactics or infantry positioning to be effective against an HAV. If you think that, you're doing it wrong. Really? Sooo i should just try to "stand toe to toe with some vehicles" as it says in the description for Heavy Dropsuits? Yes, I could see HAV drivers loving this, however, I'm not sorry to disappoint you that I do have a functioning brain.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 52	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:09:00 - [93] - Quote I think when CCP labeled heavy suits as "being able to go toe to tie with vehicles and survive" I think they meant that they could quietly stand next to a friendly vehicle and live. Because that's about the only way it's going to happen! Lol
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 272	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:11:00 - [94] - Quote 950k Forgegun
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 52	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:14:00 - [95] - Quote Beeeees wrote: 950k Forgegun If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 730	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:14:00 - [96] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill So you tell me - is it fair? long time no see SoTa PoP... full PRO FG FIT: 95K ISK full PRO tank: 1.5mil ISK dmg output EQUAL regardless of HP difference PRO HVY FG fit is twice as difficult to kill ... LLAVs are another story tho... but we aren't talking about them... skilled PRO FGer kills Skilled PRO Tank in under 15 seconds skilled PRO Tank is dead before he/she ever finds FGer... lol... im a logi btw... not QQing skilled tank driver has support which kills the FG while he sits behind cover in safe... your point is null and void and you have no credibility, deal with it.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 272	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:17:00 - [97] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. I have a better proposition. They buff the price of the ARs to the prices of large blaster turrets of according DPS. You in?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1493	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:18:00 - [98] - Quote We dont have proto tanks, only proto turrets which are still weaker then the proto FG and cost alot less ISK while the hull itself is basic with basic mods and are **** easy to kill Sure make the top proto FG 1mil ISK, i dont care i already pay 2mil per tank in PC anyways
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 730	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:19:00 - [99] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. I have a better proposition. They buff the price of the ARs to the prices of large blaster turrets of according DPS. You in? only if they can damage installations and vehicles equally... you in?
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 503	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:24:00 - [100] - Quote i would like it if the average fully specced tank cost = to the average fully specced suit \ so yeah your turrets should be 43-80k isk for tanks

Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 274	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:29:00 - [101] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Beeeees wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. I have a better proposition. They buff the price of the ARs to the prices of large blaster turrets of according DPS. You in? only if they can damage installations and vehicles equally... you in? Only if they disable overheating on the SCR, you in?
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 52	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:32:00 - [102] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: i would like it if the average fully specced tank cost = to the average fully specced suit \ so yeah your turrets should be 43-80k isk for tanks Hahahahah you can't be serious, so tanks should be as cheap as regular gear only with a significant boost in damage and mobility, the ability to shrug off non AV weapons, and a huge go buffer? Lets pretend for a moment this is even remotely likely -- to even out cost of suits in terms of kills a tank can wrack up the only course of action would be to need their HP to make them easier to kill or allowing small grade munitions able to effectively deal damage to tanks so standard infantry could take you out. That's something that no one wants.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 840	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:34:00 - [103] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: CaoticFox wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill So you tell me - is it fair? long time no see SoTa PoP... full PRO FG FIT: 95K ISK full PRO tank: 1.5mil ISK dmg output EQUAL regardless of HP difference PRO HVY FG fit is twice as difficult to kill ... LLAVs are another story tho... but we aren't talking about them... skilled PRO FGer kills Skilled PRO Tank in under 15 seconds skilled PRO Tank is dead before he/she ever finds FGer... lol... im a logi btw... not QQing Damage output equal? Lol no Assault forge guns do incredible amounts of damage per shot. The Wiyrkomi breach could one-shot a lot of shield tanks with proficiency 5 and 2 damage mods. I did that to a Kalaakiota HAV during Chromosome with the DCMA. Also, we don't have PRO tanks. Are you or your elders from Yorkshire? I don't insert a 'u' into some words. What makes you think I'm from the UK? Just the way you phrased that sentence, seems familiar but can't think of where I heard someone talking like that.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 840	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:37:00 - [104] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Also remember that AV weapons require special tactics or infantry positioning to be effective against an HAV. If you think that, you're doing it wrong. It requires any troll to duck in and out of cover, av is the easiest. 1 swarm volley, 3 av nades and a swarm as they run away ruins most tanks. Seriously, av is fking easy and barbaric, if you find it a challenge your backwards lol.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 740	Posted - 2013.10.22 15:10:00 - [105] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: "a PRO turret does not a PRO tank make" +1 to this gotchya... ur English sucks tho... I forgive u... the ONLY mods for vehicles are ADV... we know this... thanks for your idiocy in specifying that 1... il be handing out PHD's tomorrow after work... meet me on the field, and il show u ur incompetence. PS!!! OMG... ive had to edit this like 6 times! lolz Actually, the modules we have do not exceed meta level 3, making them basic.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 57	Posted - 2013.10.22 15:33:00 - [106] - Quote Make swarms harder to use or do less damage but have more ammo and a larger clip, I've said this before ill say it again. That is my consolation to AV users, swarms are indeed way to easy.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1176	Posted - 2013.10.22 15:35:00 - [107] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Also remember that AV weapons require special tactics or infantry positioning to be effective against an HAV. If you think that, you're doing it wrong. It requires any troll to duck in and out of cover, av is the easiest. 1 swarm volley, 3 av nades and a swarm as they run away ruins most tanks. Seriously, av is fking easy and barbaric, if you find it a challenge your backwards lol. Well, try looking at it from the point of view of a Heavy who does not camp on towers. Much different story there.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1206	Posted - 2013.10.22 16:04:00 - [108] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill So you tell me - is it fair? 1000EHP =/= 6000+ EHP +1 (i still think proto turrets should be cheaper thou...) Well...there isn't an infantry weapon that homes in on the target, is invincible, and does over 1500 damage unmodded and unskilled. I want cheaper turrets. A bad-ass gunlogi in Chrome costed 800k, a bad-ass gunlogi in Uprising costs 1.4m.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1206	Posted - 2013.10.22 16:06:00 - [109] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Beeeees wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. I have a better proposition. They buff the price of the ARs to the prices of large blaster turrets of according DPS. You in? only if they can damage installations and vehicles equally... you in? Only if they disable overheating on the SCR, you in? only if they remove AV from skirmish and make things render, again.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 284	Posted - 2013.10.23 01:55:00 - [110] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Beeeees wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Beeeees wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. I have a better proposition. They buff the price of the ARs to the prices of large blaster turrets of according DPS. You in? only if they can damage installations and vehicles equally... you in? Only if they disable overheating on the SCR, you in? only if they remove AV from skirmish and make things render, again. In this case removing AV from skirmish would imply having to remove AR from skirmish, so I guess Im in.

Dachande Anasazi DUST University Ivy League 26	Posted - 2013.10.23 02:39:00 - [111] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill So you tell me - is it fair? Sota We all know you suck. And even playing with Cubs can not save you. :) OUCH...DUDE...that was CRUEL
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2014	Posted - 2013.10.23 22:11:00 - [112] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Cancels out tanks, LAVs, dropships, and a squad and a half. Four forge gunners wins a game. Usually, but 1 Sniper with a Thales cancells out 4 FGunners. You think a Thale's is a guaranteed kill with a shot to the body against PRO heavy suits? I did not say that.Again please stop putting words in my mouth. I do think that the heavy does not have the speed to take cover after the Thale shoots the first round, since its RoF is so high and so is damage. 2-3 Shots are more than enough to take down the Most Proto of heavies. 2 Good Charge Sniper rifle or Ishi snipers can also cancel out FGunners. You make it sound like a Thale's is god mode against heavy suits. Thale is god mode against anything >..>
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 81	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:12:00 - [113] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: CaoticFox wrote: snip skilled PRO Tank is dead before he/she ever finds FGer... lol... im a logi btw... not QQing My apologies since there is no polite way to say this CaoticFox. If you can't handle a solo iFG then you're a bad Tanker. I've fought the real deal and in the right hands a Standard Tank can survive if not win against a Pro FGer. my tanker character has no problems with FGers, nor Swarmers... this is a TROLL PLEASE post... lol... so... TROLL AWAY! it doesn't even HAVE TO BE TRUE or MAKE SENSE... but my VEHICLE CHARACTER is DropShip Command, I only tank to pay for my Ships...
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 81	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:15:00 - [114] - Quote Mirataf wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: A PRO turret does not a PRO tank make. Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL! My English sucks??? LOL! I guess nobody ever listened to older family speaking. Or there are those of us that get it str8 away then have to scratch our heads working out why it looks wrong 'A PRO turret doth not a PRO tank make' Its not older just family speaking it comes from this ole dude called Aristotle by the way FINALLY... you are correct sir... not the rest of them... a smart one! o7 o\
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 81	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:24:00 - [115] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: Beeeees wrote: 950k Forgegun If they buff fire rate, add zoom, and give us unlimited ammo sure. read ur future patch notes... large turrets are gonna have limited ammo with next vehicle update.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 81	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:27:00 - [116] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: CaoticFox wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Proto turrets means a well fitted vehicles - which can be hard to kill A proto FG is on a proto heavy - which is easy as hell to kill So you tell me - is it fair? long time no see SoTa PoP... full PRO FG FIT: 95K ISK full PRO tank: 1.5mil ISK dmg output EQUAL regardless of HP difference PRO HVY FG fit is twice as difficult to kill ... LLAVs are another story tho... but we aren't talking about them... skilled PRO FGer kills Skilled PRO Tank in under 15 seconds skilled PRO Tank is dead before he/she ever finds FGer... lol... im a logi btw... not QQing skilled tank driver has support which kills the FG while he sits behind cover in safe... your point is null and void and you have no credibility, deal with it. we aren't talking about PCs. we are talking about everyday DUST 514... and for 90% of battles (public and FW)... a tanker is on his/her own... in your perfect world, I would agree... otherwise YOUR post is invalid.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 881	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:31:00 - [117] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I also feel the AR is pretty OP AR are NOT OP... every OTHER weapon is just UP!!! Then why are you complaining about Forge Guns?
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 176	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:32:00 - [118] - Quote Quit trying to nerf the forgegun please. The HMG has already filled up my garbagecan.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 881	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:34:00 - [119] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Quit trying to nerf the forgegun please. The HMG has already filled up my garbagecan. Yes, ^ the Forge Gun is just too fun to nerf. It is now my secondary role :D Logiing isn't good enough sometimes :D
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 177	Posted - 2013.10.24 01:41:00 - [120] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Powerh8er wrote: Quit trying to nerf the forgegun please. The HMG has already filled up my garbagecan. Yes, ^ the Forge Gun is just too fun to nerf. It is now my secondary role :D Logiing isn't good enough sometimes :D Yes, its the only truly badass gun on Dust514. I hope theyll fix the HMG so that it can become badass too.



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