DUST Search - Thanks to CCP, I'll likely go broke

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on.

That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr.

Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest.

Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.

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Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1539	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:54:00 - [1] - Quote No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on. That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr. Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest. Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3393	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:55:00 - [2] - Quote You wont beat me to 0 ISK. I drive Tanks!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1930	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on. That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr. Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest. Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined. THIS IS INSANE.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 193	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:57:00 - [4] - Quote Having less new players playing FW sounds like a bonus to me, God, I hate those blueberries... They can stay in pubs. And while it is sad that we won't be able to play only FW for a while, the bright side is that once the market goes live we will be f***ing rich. Or not. Plus, it could take a while...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3396	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:58:00 - [5] - Quote I wish we could link ISK from Dust and EVE I could support my entire corporations from my wallet...not that we'd need it anyway. As for the player market I suppose me might Alecksander, depends on how CCP makes the specialist content special, and how FW is going at the time. In order for us to be rich we need to be losing FW, and thus be worth supporting by the free lancers.
Gelan Corbaine Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 203	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:02:00 - [6] - Quote Don't forget you'll be able to sell salvage as well..... that will help .....especially when they talk of destroying bpos.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1514	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:04:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined. That spiritual imagery... should've expected it from PIE. Okay a little more on topic: Just get your corporation to fund you a little, unless you're all into FW, in which case I hope that the player market arrives before FW changes.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 577	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:04:00 - [8] - Quote I have half a bil ISK and now finally a fire pit to dump it in, new FW is going to be fun... If you're rich
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 146	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:06:00 - [9] - Quote Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3396	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:07:00 - [10] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: Don't forget you'll be able to sell salvage as well..... that will help .....especially when they talk of destroying bpos. I don't think they can or will, most likely CCP would relegate them to the role they serve in EVE as eternal blue prints that as long as you own, you have the capacity to build, if industry is ever put into our hands then I can feasibly see us making use of them that was as well. We could possibly even begin putting up Indy contracts for EVE players to fulfil for certain ISK values.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3396	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:07:00 - [11] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined. That spiritual imagery... should've expected it from PIE. Okay a little more on topic: Just get your corporation to fund you a little, unless you're all into FW, in which case I hope that the player market arrives before FW changes. They cannot fund us. PIE is and always will be and FW corp.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1462	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:08:00 - [12] - Quote FW is going to be very draining on the wallet until the player market. I have a feeling nanite injectors will be more common.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3396	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:08:00 - [13] - Quote Pent'noir wrote: Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk. You can mission or you can fight. 10K LP for a slicer plus the Nexus chip and Tormentor, then sell for 17 Million ISK.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3398	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:09:00 - [14] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I have half a bil ISK and now finally a fire pit to dump it in, new FW is going to be fun... If you're rich LET ME BE YOUR FIRE PIT.... eugh that sounds disgusting.
Slightly-Mental Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:10:00 - [15] - Quote I guess loyalty costs ... *dreams of the new golden age of caldari,
J0LLY R0G3R Unkn0wn Killers 149	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:10:00 - [16] - Quote Logi 4 hire XD
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 293	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:10:00 - [17] - Quote Pent'noir wrote: Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk. This is exactly how FW works on the eve side, dunno why everyone is acting like they wont be able to make any money.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 884	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:11:00 - [18] - Quote I only have 12.5 million isk, I blow 200-400k a match for the Amarr, I play 6-15 matches a day, I'll be broke within a week but hey atleast i'll have my bpo's........:(
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1031	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:11:00 - [19] - Quote My ISK farming [STARTER FIT] altbro has a reason to continue existing. Soreconyr Lives!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 577	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:12:00 - [20] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Pent'noir wrote: Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk. This is exactly how FW works on the eve side, dunno why everyone is acting like they wont be able to make any money. If there is no open market by this time you wont be able to make ISK

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1931	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:23:00 - [21] - Quote I ONLY play FW!> ??? How am i going to LIVE!? WTH CCP,dont do dis.
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1539	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:27:00 - [22] - Quote What most of you are failing to realize is that making ISK on FW fully depends on the nonexistent open market. Without the open market, FW players will simply be farming LP and LP gear but have no one to sell it to.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 578	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:28:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I ONLY play FW!> ??? How am i going to LIVE!? WTH CCP,dont do dis. Let me explain how it works in EVE You spend ISK to buy your ships than run missions to get LP than buy stuff with that LP and sell it on the open market for ISK Your ISK turns into LP and LP back to ISK, generally you will be making more ISK than you lose.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 194	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:30:00 - [24] - Quote I have 50 mil to burn through, but considering how long this market will likely take to go live I better make some really cheap fittings... Darn it, I just unlocked my proto assault not an hour ago...
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1031	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:33:00 - [25] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What most of you are failing to realize is that making ISK on FW fully depends on the nonexistent open market. Without the open market, FW players will simply be farming LP and LP gear but have no one to sell it to. P2P trading and ability to sell in Market due out 1.8
THE-BEAST Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 95	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:37:00 - [26] - Quote Afk FTW No reason to jump out of the warge barge. Pick a faction and profit
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3400	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:37:00 - [27] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I ONLY play FW!> ??? How am i going to LIVE!? WTH CCP,dont do dis. Let me explain how it works in EVE You spend ISK to buy your ships than run missions to get LP than buy stuff with that LP and sell it on the open market for ISK Your ISK turns into LP and LP back to ISK, generally you will be making more ISK than you lose. Again if we have an open market FW players will be able to make ISK, if we don't have open market and you are poor your are also fcked. Yeah but you forgot the bit where a jaguar slinks onto your complex, blows up you 2-3 Million ISK ship then buggers off to mess with someone else.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1267	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:40:00 - [28] - Quote Where was this announced? I feel behind.
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1539	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:41:00 - [29] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Where was this announced? I feel behind. Feedback section.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4284	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:46:00 - [30] - Quote I quite like the idea. Game has needed an ISK sink for a while.



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