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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:54:00 -
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No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on.
That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr.
Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest.
Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1539
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:27:00 -
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What most of you are failing to realize is that making ISK on FW fully depends on the nonexistent open market. Without the open market, FW players will simply be farming LP and LP gear but have no one to sell it to. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1539
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Where was this announced? I feel behind.
Feedback section. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1539
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:09:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:uuummmm you buy from the LP store and sell at a huge mark up, Thats how it works in EVE. Faction variants go for many time the price of T1 and tend to be more expensive then T2(think proto) gear in eve. So you won't be hurting for money.
They're implementing the no ISK payout BEFORE the open market goes live which means no selling anything. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.21 04:30:00 -
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Raskutor wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:True Adamance wrote:You wont beat me to 0 ISK. I drive Tanks!
Though if CCP takes the advice that we discussed with CPM Jaegerblitzen to heart and implements a player market, which we can establish and stabilized before the FW changes then I can feasibly see you and I becoming rather wealthy. Actually neither of you will beat me because I'm at 2.3 mil isk right now :P I'm at 1.5 mil. Gotcha beat.
I consider anything under 50 million as broke. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:36:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Even when they implement the player market if salvage levels are similar to PC currently you won't make much profit. On average unless I get a tank or dropship or an officer weapon (uncommon, rare, and uber rare drops from salvage respectively) I could sell all of those are the market price and it wouldn't pay for 4 proto suits. You'll have to die 2x or less if you don't get vehicle or turret drops.  Or don't use proto I guess...which I can use advanced and do fine...no big. Its not salvage you make the cash off of, its the LP gear you get cash off of, and you get LP every match, win or lose.
The problem is while you make LP every match, if the open market is not implemented at the same time as the FW changes, FW players will be making LP ONLY and no ISK. These FW players could then obtain LP store rewards, but would not be able to sell it which until the open market is implemented would make FW a huge ISK sink. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:44:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i still have yet to know what this LP is..
but the no isk in fw?
thats going to be a nightmare.
Its a good thing i still use mlt gear!
LP are Loyalty Points - a currency used to by Naval Issue gear. For example if you fight for the Amarr, you'll gain LP to go towards Amarr Navy items. These Naval Issue items may have different slot layouts, bonuses, and color schemes that will ensure you stand apart from the run of the mill duster.
The idea that CCP has envisioned is that FW players will accrue tons of LP and therefore tons of Naval Issue items that they can then sell for tons of ISK on the open market...problem is THE OPEN MARKET DOESN'T EXIST YET. If the FW changes and the open market aren't implemented at the same time, what will happen is that FW players will not be making any ISK, and will also have a lot of Naval Issue items they cannot sell for ISK at the time either (think of all the salvage you currently have and cannot sell, it'll be akin to that). |
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