No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on.

That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr.

Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest.

Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.

this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.

Don't forget you'll be able to sell salvage as well..... that will help .....especially when they talk of destroying bpos.

That spiritual imagery... should've expected it from PIE.

Okay a little more on topic: Just get your corporation to fund you a little, unless you're all into FW, in which case I hope that the player market arrives before FW changes.

Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk.

I have half a bil ISK and now finally a fire pit to dump it in, new FW is going to be fun... If you're rich

Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk.

This is exactly how FW works on the eve side, dunno why everyone is acting like they wont be able to make any money.

What most of you are failing to realize is that making ISK on FW fully depends on the nonexistent open market. Without the open market, FW players will simply be farming LP and LP gear but have no one to sell it to.

Let me explain how it works in EVE

You spend ISK to buy your ships than run missions to get LP than buy stuff with that LP and sell it on the open market for ISK

Your ISK turns into LP and LP back to ISK, generally you will be making more ISK than you lose.

Again if we have an open market FW players will be able to make ISK, if we don't have open market and you are poor your are also fcked.

Where was this announced? I feel behind.

I quite like the idea. Game has needed an ISK sink for a while.

I have half a bil ISK and now finally a fire pit to dump it in, new FW is going to be fun... If you're rich

I quite like the idea. Game has needed an ISK sink for a while.

No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on.

That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr.

Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest.

Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.

uuummmm you buy from the LP store and sell at a huge mark up, Thats how it works in EVE. Faction variants go for many time the price of T1 and tend to be more expensive then T2(think proto) gear in eve. So you won't be hurting for money.

You wont beat me to 0 ISK. I drive Tanks!

Though if CCP takes the advice that we discussed with CPM Jaegerblitzen to heart and implements a player market, which we can establish and stabilized before the FW changes then I can feasibly see you and I becoming rather wealthy.

With the LP items costing ISK as well I don't think the market will be as vibrant for these goods as you imagine.

I hope they take Hanz's advice and wait until they release the market, but I still think they are misjudging the ISK sink thing. LOTS and I mean lots of people run cheap suits in pubs despite having over 100 mil ISK. I don't think getting a Duvalle with a lower fitting requirement is going to make them run proto all of a sudden.

The pubs are full of people who aren't that great in crap suits getting slaughtered for a minute or two until they retreat to the redline. I firmly believe this behavior will only get worse as these hoarders have something else to save up.

Actually neither of you will beat me because I'm at 2.3 mil isk right now :P

You wont beat me to 0 ISK. I drive Tanks!

Though if CCP takes the advice that we discussed with CPM Jaegerblitzen to heart and implements a player market, which we can establish and stabilized before the FW changes then I can feasibly see you and I becoming rather wealthy.

uuummmm you buy from the LP store and sell at a huge mark up, Thats how it works in EVE. Faction variants go for many time the price of T1 and tend to be more expensive then T2(think proto) gear in eve. So you won't be hurting for money.

SO yet again another mode gets dedicated to the super rich and not the loyal players who care about the outcomes of FW?

Closing on 2 Billion

Why is OP not rich

War is spensive.

Actually neither of you will beat me because I'm at 2.3 mil isk right now :P

Isn't this sorta how fw works on the eve side. They run their fw missions, get lp, buy lp item, then sell lp item for an insane amount of isk.

(Pulls out a proto nanite injector)

Still want to nerf logibros?

I'm at 1.5 mil. Gotcha beat.

No ISK payouts for FW because of a prospective secondary market to sell LP store rewards on.

That's sheer lunacy on your part CCP. You just gave a huge middle finger to any FW specialists who primarily play FW battles. Thanks to this new change I'll continuously lose ISK whenever I die on the battlefield and will have to resort to the horrid pub matches to make some revenue which keeps me from claiming districts for Amarr.

Another aspect of no ISK payout is that if a new player to the game sees that FW doesn't give him/her money, what's the point of playing it? Trust me, some new player isn't going to catch on to the idea of LP and the LP store that quickly for it to pique their interest.

Yeah I know you're DEVS and what not and likely don't care that one out of your 4000 active daily players is upset about the changes because I have zero influence on your thought process or actions, but CCP, this was just a dagger to the soul...the little hope that I had for this game has just flatlined.

I quite like the idea. Game has needed an ISK sink for a while.

Even when they implement the player market if salvage levels are similar to PC currently you won't make much profit.

On average unless I get a tank or dropship or an officer weapon (uncommon, rare, and uber rare drops from salvage respectively) I could sell all of those are the market price and it wouldn't pay for 4 proto suits.

You'll have to die 2x or less if you don't get vehicle or turret drops. Or don't use proto I guess...which I can use advanced and do fine...no big.

Its not salvage you make the cash off of, its the LP gear you get cash off of, and you get LP every match, win or lose.

i still have yet to know what this LP is..



but the no isk in fw?



thats going to be a nightmare.


Its a good thing i still use mlt gear!