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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1519
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:50:00 -
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I really don't understand. (yes this is a slight rage thread)
I was flying around in a logi ship, i had one gunner, we were kinda doing are thing, getting a few kills here and there, not a massive threat.
I was getting hit by swarms and forges constantly.
To the point where i was useless and so was the av, because i would just be far away in unreachable spots.
They kept all there militia swarms, must have been 4-6 guys running swarms with 2-3 forges. Of course scrubs also got into the rail turrets and continued trying to shoot us down.
But my question is, why try so hard to kill something, that is already not that much of a threat. My gunner might get 10 kills if he's lucky.
15-20 if not a crap ton of av is being used.
Pulling out all this av makes me useless and also 3-6 guys on your team. because just one av person isn't good enough
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1485
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:58:00 -
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If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol. |
![N1ck Comeau N1ck Comeau](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1519
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:04:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol. yea i'm new to the vehicle world, only about 2 months, but i'm not new to the game |
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
99
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:04:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol.
War points. Very simple. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1199
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:05:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol.
Thinking about it, that's probably why we still have that small minority like Luky boy that still wants them nerfed ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Sirpidey Adtur
Aloren Foundations
78
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:06:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:I really don't understand. (yes this is a slight rage thread)
I was flying around in a logi ship, i had one gunner, we were kinda doing are thing, getting a few kills here and there, not a massive threat.
I was getting hit by swarms and forges constantly.
To the point where i was useless and so was the av, because i would just be far away in unreachable spots.
They kept all there militia swarms, must have been 4-6 guys running swarms with 2-3 forges. Of course scrubs also got into the rail turrets and continued trying to shoot us down.
But my question is, why try so hard to kill something, that is already not that much of a threat. My gunner might get 10 kills if he's lucky.
15-20 if not a crap ton of av is being used.
Pulling out all this av makes me useless and also 3-6 guys on your team. because just one av person isn't good enough
I do it for tanks, because shield tanks can get such rediculous EHP that I can dump three swarms into them, and they don't blink an eye.
I also do it, because it significantly increases my own reward, as the reward for playing is partially based off of the value of destroyed equipment. |
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8213
Grade No.2
422
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:06:00 -
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Dropships are easy kills, sort of. They are in the wide open, and have less HP than a HAV, so people crave the possibility of a freebie.
But, bring an HAV on the battlefield and mow over noobs like shooting fish in a bucket and the enemy will just keep spawn as infantry and run into slaughter... |
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Badgerr Rager
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
188
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:06:00 -
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I get a hard on watching them all burn ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
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Vulpes Dolosus
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
117
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:24:00 -
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In all honesty, you effectively neutralized or at least occupied almost half of the enemy team. If your team had any cooperation at all, they would have seized the opportunity and either killed off the AV players or recaptured objectives.
You did your job well, it's just a shame you don't get warpoints for it. Such is the life of the flying targe... I mean dropships. |
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1519
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:32:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:In all honesty, you effectively neutralized or at least occupied almost half of the enemy team. If your team had any cooperation at all, they would have seized the opportunity and either killed off the AV players or recaptured objectives.
You did your job well, it's just a shame you don't get warpoints for it. Such is the life of the flying targe... I mean dropships. we did win with ease, but if my job was being a annoying target making people switch fits just for me i would snipe |
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
232
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:07:00 -
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causing grief. Every player is a twatt and wants to see expensive stuff burn thats why. Dropships are a really easy target to shot at aswell. Flying high, easy to lock on and hard to dodge AV with. Oh and the fact that dropships in early builds where causing terror left and right with missile launchers. People dont forget and they allways looking for revenge. It might not be today, maybe not tomorrow but someday that n00b with the swarm launcher will kill ya. |
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Sleepy Zan
Dat' Stinky Pinky
2552
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:08:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol. Marauders in E3 build ![Oops](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) |
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:10:00 -
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You're a flying price tag that everyone can see. I'd take out my proto swarms for ya, but i'd do the same for any vehicle besides the free lav's. They only get standard and only if they are being annoying.
And pub matches don't matter. I get more enjoyment from destroying expensive vehicles than I do actually winning a match. |
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
126
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:23:00 -
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Once people are in their swarm fit they can't do much else but shoot at you (unless there are other enemy vehicles or they're near a supply depot - often neither is the case). |
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1519
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:26:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Once people are in their swarm fit they can't do much else but shoot at you (unless there are other enemy vehicles or they're near a supply depot - often neither is the case). people shouldn't have the need to switch so much regardless. like 1 or 2 av guys is fine, but anymore then that is crazy |
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
126
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:37:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Once people are in their swarm fit they can't do much else but shoot at you (unless there are other enemy vehicles or they're near a supply depot - often neither is the case). people shouldn't have the need to switch so much regardless. like 1 or 2 av guys is fine, but anymore then that is crazy Yeah, the other thing is that teams aren't coordinated in pubs. Either nobody goes AV or 4-5 do. This actually isn't an easy issue to get around, as even organized squads will usually put voice in squad or a private channel, not team. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1199
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:44:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol. Marauders in E3 build ![Oops](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png)
Sad thing is they were worth more for dishing out damage than actual tanking, when it should've been the other way around..... |
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
81
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:51:00 -
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Also make sure you have a competent team before you call in your vehicle, it seems to drastically affect survivability. One game I decided to call in my dropship I had sitting in my inventory to brush up on my flying skills. Next thing you know my team gets stone walled and red lined, with not much to shoot at you can only imagine how much AV comes out of the woodwork. I just powered up the afterburner to see how fast I could circle the map. |
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:30:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:I really don't understand. (yes this is a slight rage thread)
I was flying around in a logi ship, i had one gunner, we were kinda doing are thing, getting a few kills here and there, not a massive threat.
I was getting hit by swarms and forges constantly.
To the point where i was useless and so was the av, because i would just be far away in unreachable spots.
They kept all there militia swarms, must have been 4-6 guys running swarms with 2-3 forges. Of course scrubs also got into the rail turrets and continued trying to shoot us down.
But my question is, why try so hard to kill something, that is already not that much of a threat. My gunner might get 10 kills if he's lucky.
15-20 if not a crap ton of av is being used.
Pulling out all this av makes me useless and also 3-6 guys on your team. because just one av person isn't good enough
Because AV is sooo incredibly easy everyone wants the "Free Warpoints".
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
565
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:33:00 -
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Just played my second game in a tank using one of them Creodron breach HAV's and got 16/1 with only have around 500k SP in vehicle skills. There was was a lot of AV the key seems to be start pulling out as soon as AV is seen. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2169
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:47:00 -
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Speaking just for myself I try to blow up drop ships to stop some guy with a forge getting on top of a roof and having a shooting gallery |
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
334
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:49:00 -
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Pull out an Enforcer then see how they react
Can't... resist... destroying.. the white paint |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1064
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:49:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If you're an older player it's most likely hatred for vehicles in builds past, these new guys have it lucky lol. Thinking about it, that's probably why we still have that small minority like Luky boy that still wants them nerfed ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Just nerfed? More like removed. |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1064
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:01:00 -
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Sirpidey Adtur wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:I really don't understand. (yes this is a slight rage thread)
I was flying around in a logi ship, i had one gunner, we were kinda doing are thing, getting a few kills here and there, not a massive threat.
I was getting hit by swarms and forges constantly.
To the point where i was useless and so was the av, because i would just be far away in unreachable spots.
They kept all there militia swarms, must have been 4-6 guys running swarms with 2-3 forges. Of course scrubs also got into the rail turrets and continued trying to shoot us down.
But my question is, why try so hard to kill something, that is already not that much of a threat. My gunner might get 10 kills if he's lucky.
15-20 if not a crap ton of av is being used.
Pulling out all this av makes me useless and also 3-6 guys on your team. because just one av person isn't good enough
I do it for tanks, because shield tanks can get such rediculous EHP that I can dump three swarms into them, and they don't blink an eye. I also do it, because it significantly increases my own reward, as the reward for playing is partially based off of the value of destroyed equipment. Sounds to me like you're using MLT swarms. |
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Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
84
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Posted - 2013.10.18 11:42:00 -
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Tbh its more can I kill you, are you likely to likely to be a pain, OK, coming for ya |
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Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
489
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:03:00 -
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they are easy kills with loads of wp attached why wouldnt we wanna target you |
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
205
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:26:00 -
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Hi, my name is John (hi, john), and I'm an AVholic.
It all started in beta when packs of murder taxis roamed the earth, allowing noobs and the unskilled to rack up 10-20 kills with free gear. Indestructible hulks called Suryas would lumber through and get the rest. I learned to fight back, and got paid really well to do it. It felt so goood too! I just couldn't stop myself, even when my KDR suffered and I lost ISK in the process. But now, with the help of my sponsor....
Oh wait, he just ran to the supply depot to get his wyrkomi. I'm outta here!
( so anyway, yeah, residual rage from beta + lots of ISK in return for satisfying our bloodlust) |
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
53
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:31:00 -
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i hate snipers on top of the skyscrapers killing freely in proto gear with little chance of losing it
i will switch to av and take out dropships to stop that as much as i can
tanks i will go for when im in the fit/near depot other wise i leave that for our tanks
Lav if being used to jump around the map capping or running people over i will take them out too, if not i ignore them as they just go from point A - point B then recall |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1016
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:34:00 -
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I'll whoop out the AV stuff because that's what it's there for. But, if I can see that the DS pilot knows how to outmaneuver swarms or a HAV can outrun them, then I go back to putting bullets in faces. Unless, I know who the pilot is... |
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
31
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:35:00 -
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I don't use swarms, I am a fan of the forge gun however. If I am just running a standard anti infantry route I use a standard FG which just so happens to be good ( not great like the assault variant ) at taking out vehicles.
Why do I do it; A. It's a derpship, 9/10 I am with a scrub group in a pub match and a high spawn location going to the reds means we lose, if I want to win I HAVE to take out that derpship before it gets to its destination. B. It's a tank, blueberries are getting steam rolled and refuse to go AV as well means we lose our point/our clones/the game, plus costing tankers money make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. C. It's a LAV, honestly I never see these as a threat, I am pretty good at juking the murder taxis. I blow them up for points.
I mean honestly, I am either using a FG or AR/MD if I know I'll only be hunting infantry, why would I NOT aim to cripple the enemies tactical advantages? |
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