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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:02:00 -
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hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1111
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:06:00 -
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I think RE are fine. And hilarious.
Remote exposives are the most entertaining part of the game. Ive laughed out loud blowing peoiple up, blowing myself up and getting blown up by remote explosives.
There is nothing more funny than getting a freeze frame of an enemy ragdolling in a space bound trajectory at a capture point.
If you die to remote explosives, fit flux greandes.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
424
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:08:00 -
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RE are probably one of the most useful things that are under used in the game. They cant be considered OP as you can destroy the weapon before its used against you, also as you have said, they are useful for defending objectives as people still dont check properly to see if they are rigged.
They are great to use against murder taxis (or was) and you can put a few infront of an oncomming HAV and zero crutch em.
All in, I think RE are just fine. Skill wise, I think they are probably above AR/ScR and below Logi.
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Corum Irsie
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
43
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:08:00 -
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Meh, bacon
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
57
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:10:00 -
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its the only thing i havnt seen a nerf thread about and im pretty insulted by that. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
821
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:16:00 -
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You tell me, I use them the same as you an blew you up in ur mk assault if I'm not mistaken. I'm a scout an it's also my main defense and offence, if I'm gonna die your coming with me an so are your buddies.
But dude if you like them, for god sakes don't make a thread inviting these nerf bums to have a opinion that's just asking for it. Let this thread get burried fast, I ve seen people try to use them like us an they fail an give up, only the creative get 25+ kills an 9 mercs at once, let it stay a secret |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1478
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:17:00 -
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If people cry it's OP it's because their core locus nades don't have enough splash to wipe out a swath of them just by throwing them randomly.
Which is why I run fluxes and whenever I near an objective I bombard the living kitten out of it with flux nades before hacking. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3110
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:18:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-A-Hole-ic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
In the nicest possible way you are and A-hole with those things. But man do you use them with style. One day I will beat your Remote Mine Field and kill you..... until then watch out for me.
GG man you make them look bad ass. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3593
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-A-Hole-ic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
In the nicest possible way you are and A-hole with those things. But man do you use them with style. One day I will beat your Remote Mine Field and kill you..... until then watch out for me. GG man you make them look bad ass.
When are you going to get me with those remotes
I hate feeling left out. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
57
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:20:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:You tell me, I use them the same as you an blew you up in ur mk assault if I'm not mistaken. I'm a scout an it's also my main defense and offence, if I'm gonna die your coming with me an so are your buddies.
But dude if you like them, for god sakes don't make a thread inviting these nerf bums to have a opinion that's just asking for it. Let this thread get burried fast, I ve seen people try to use them like us an they fail an give up, only the creative get 25+ kills an 9 mercs at once, let it stay a secret
if i remember you threw it as you died and nabed me with it from beyond the grave :P
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
57
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:23:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-A-Hole-ic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
In the nicest possible way you are and A-hole with those things. But man do you use them with style. One day I will beat your Remote Mine Field and kill you..... until then watch out for me. GG man you make them look bad ass. When are you going to get me with those remotes I hate feeling left out.
team players has their own remote user if i remember correctly :P
that and you guys never play scrim, just ambush/dom.
aldin did a nice job of not getting blown up the other day, but i got greedy and was trying to force the kill.
you just cant force kills with them, you just gotta let em happen, so im not going to hunt for you, im just going to wait patiently :P |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3593
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:25:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:General John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-A-Hole-ic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
In the nicest possible way you are and A-hole with those things. But man do you use them with style. One day I will beat your Remote Mine Field and kill you..... until then watch out for me. GG man you make them look bad ass. When are you going to get me with those remotes I hate feeling left out. team players has their own remote user if i remember correctly :P that and you guys never play scrim, just ambush/dom. aldin did a nice job of not getting blown up the other day, but i got greedy and was trying to force the kill. you just cant force kills with them, you just gotta let em happen, so im not going to hunt for you, im just going to wait patiently :P
I play Ammar FW, and Ambush mostly.. I play dom when I am squadding with old friends that love dom. |
Benjamin Ciscko
S.e.V.e.N.
151
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:27:00 -
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anybody there unused as is I don't want every objective rigged. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
58
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:30:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anybody there unused as is I don't want every objective rigged.
throw a granade.....
remotes straped to the null cannon arnt my bread and butter :P
they dont usually work against competent people. you gotta rig the doorways and chokepoints LEADING to the objective :P |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
148
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:32:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill? was it you thati saw drop that remote explosive on top of 3 of my teammate's heads? i wal ROFLing the whole time. good on you sir. good on you. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
459
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:37:00 -
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i do not have them atm but i did once from my exp they are purely a tactical weapon and only fit to a person who is skilled at tactical playstyles. they are crying op because you are a really good tactical player it is a compliment for sure but the item is def not op. they're quiet a few things that are just awesome in the hands of a tactical player in dust
u ever seen c4 in bf4?
that remote explosive is op lol but that games a whole different lvl of fun from dust |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3594
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:41:00 -
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Today I will say f being a logi for a day and I will create a RE fit. Let the tears flow. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
58
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:42:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Today I will say f being a logi for a day and I will create a RE fit. Let the tears flow.
good man!!!
equip a scanner too :P and lots and lots of ammo |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3595
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:16:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Today I will say f being a logi for a day and I will create a RE fit. Let the tears flow. good man!!! equip a scanner too :P and lots and lots of ammo hit me up in game, well squad up and watch the fireworks :P Sure thing |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
36
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:17:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
45
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:28:00 -
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I too am a mad RE bomber. My favorite is placing them at the top of stairways and making a group of reds chase me up and when they come up and around the corner.........BOOM!!!!!!
They never see it coming. Especially fun if its a raised platform to see thier husk fly off into the sunset. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6028
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:37:00 -
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They're an essential part of my "Demoman" fit. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
36
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:40:00 -
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WARNING: exploding tacos.
It might have a remote in it for flavor(sabor).
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
36
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:48:00 -
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My favorite is the dead body pretzel dance! Who knew that dead bodies could dance. Awesome!
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Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
45
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:51:00 -
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Nah, I like the flying statue pose. just makes my day seeing that. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:53:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:WARNING: exploding tacos. It might have a remote in it for flavor(sabor). You saw through my deception! |
Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
45
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:54:00 -
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I also love booby trapping a lav then watching a group of reds hack it. So much lulz! |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
40
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:54:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Nah, I like the flying statue pose. just makes my day seeing that.
You must be killing peeps that have no rhythm in them. |
Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
45
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:57:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Nah, I like the flying statue pose. just makes my day seeing that. You must be killing peeps that have no rhythm in them.
I think they're just so stunned and like "WTF?" |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
577
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:58:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill?
I love this post, but to say they require no skill when you use them often would be an outrageous statement; here's why: If you develop tactics around people who learn that you are still using explosives over time, it requires you to use them in ways that would seem (currently) unorthodox, because it is much easier to die from remote explosives and learn who detonated you in the first place, thus encouraging spiteful tactics to get "payback" and avoid their bombs. By this learning game, remote explosive users must change up their battle style to accommodate different uses of the remote explosive to get kills, which in result, develops different tactics that will add flavor to this game (and furthermore, "gun game").
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
40
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:59:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:IVIaster LUKE wrote:WARNING: exploding tacos. It might have a remote in it for flavor(sabor). You saw through my deception!
It's always an honor to be killed by you. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
248
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:05:00 -
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Remotes are awesome. I don't think I'd skill them to proto since three seems to be enough and I need my slots for my scanner/nanohives. Definitely some of my most entertaining kills have come from using them. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
40
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:06:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:IVIaster LUKE wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Nah, I like the flying statue pose. just makes my day seeing that. You must be killing peeps that have no rhythm in them. I think they're just so stunned and like "WTF?"
I do believe they are the worst way to die. The first time I died from them I was WTF? That's all it took for me to start using them myself. WTF I can't move, my gun won't fire, did I freeze? A DAMM remote, huh? I'm getting those! |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
61
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:06:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Remotes are awesome. I don't think I'd skill them to proto since three seems to be enough and I need my slots for my scanner/nanohives. Definitely some of my most entertaining kills have come from using them.
3 is never enough |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
41
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:12:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Remotes are awesome. I don't think I'd skill them to proto since three seems to be enough and I need my slots for my scanner/nanohives. Definitely some of my most entertaining kills have come from using them. 3 is never enough
So true! For me that is. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
822
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:17:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:You tell me, I use them the same as you an blew you up in ur mk assault if I'm not mistaken. I'm a scout an it's also my main defense and offence, if I'm gonna die your coming with me an so are your buddies.
But dude if you like them, for god sakes don't make a thread inviting these nerf bums to have a opinion that's just asking for it. Let this thread get burried fast, I ve seen people try to use them like us an they fail an give up, only the creative get 25+ kills an 9 mercs at once, let it stay a secret if i remember you threw it as you died and nabed me with it from beyond the grave :P Yep but it wasn't you that killed me, I had 4 guys on me at the supply depot, but knowing you remember losing a proto fit to a bpo 2700 isk suit makes all the difference in the world! Gg bro, all I thought the whole match was blow him up, an don t let him kill you with your move! That right I said my move lol!
Seriously tho let the re stay underground , why in thewould you make a post about our trick ssshhhhh;p |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
62
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:20:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:You tell me, I use them the same as you an blew you up in ur mk assault if I'm not mistaken. I'm a scout an it's also my main defense and offence, if I'm gonna die your coming with me an so are your buddies.
But dude if you like them, for god sakes don't make a thread inviting these nerf bums to have a opinion that's just asking for it. Let this thread get burried fast, I ve seen people try to use them like us an they fail an give up, only the creative get 25+ kills an 9 mercs at once, let it stay a secret if i remember you threw it as you died and nabed me with it from beyond the grave :P Yep but it wasn't you that killed me, I had 4 guys on me at the supply depot, but knowing you remember losing a proto fit to a bpo 2700 isk suit makes all the difference in the world! Gg bro, all I thought the whole match was blow him up, an don t let him kill you with your move! That right I said my move lol! Seriously tho let the re stay underground , why in thewould you make a post about our trick ssshhhhh;p
becuase i want people to get better at avoiding them :P |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
41
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:20:00 -
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Let's be honest. Blow back sux! I know I detonate myself at least 5 or 6 times a day. My fav is the " DERKA, DERKA " remote. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
41
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:29:00 -
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Watch out for OZAROW. That guy can throw a MEAN remote. That's if he don't shoot you first! |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
117
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:31:00 -
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Best kill with remotes is 14 out of 16 inside a indoor objective. Scanner and remotes are the perfect couple |
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
41
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:39:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Best kill with remotes is 14 out of 16 inside a indoor objective. Scanner and remotes are the perfect couple
Fricking sweet. Good show N.C. *tips the hat*. Cheers! |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
41
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:53:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:[quote=noob cavman]Best kill with remotes is 14 out of 16 inside a indoor objective. Scanner and remotes are the perfect couple
Scanners? I use the force. Just as good I hear. . I might be wrong. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:14:00 -
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I know your name. I joined an Ambush map which was already in progress. I spawned on an uplink, looked around while cloaked, and there were no Reds near. Then I was flying through the air. Yeah, the kill screen, that is where I know your name from. I am assuming it was a scan trap, as I looked all around and did not see you before the detonation.
Such deaths at least give me the comfort of thinking to my self: GÇ£Someone read my guide!GÇ¥
Fox Guide: Remote Explosives, Unleash the Mad Bomber
But to answer your question, no, they are not OP. If they were OP everyone would be doing it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6989
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:17:00 -
[44] - Quote
The only thing OP about remote explosives is peoples inability to check for them |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:17:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Best kill with remotes is 14 out of 16 inside a indoor objective. Scanner and remotes are the perfect couple That is inspiring.
Did you take a photo of the kill graph at the end of the match showing that tall stack of green dots? |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
64
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:23:00 -
[46] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:I know your name. I joined an Ambush map which was already in progress. I spawned on an uplink, looked around while cloaked, and there were no Reds near. Then I was flying through the air. Yeah, the kill screen, that is where I know your name from. I am assuming it was a scan trap, as I looked all around and did not see you before the detonation. Such deaths at least give me the comfort of thinking to my self: GÇ£Someone read my guide!GÇ¥ Fox Guide: Remote Explosives, Unleash the Mad BomberBut to answer your question, no, they are not OP. If they were OP everyone would be doing it.
i havnt read your guide before.... |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:42:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:I know your name. I joined an Ambush map which was already in progress. I spawned on an uplink, looked around while cloaked, and there were no Reds near. Then I was flying through the air. Yeah, the kill screen, that is where I know your name from. I am assuming it was a scan trap, as I looked all around and did not see you before the detonation. Such deaths at least give me the comfort of thinking to my self: GÇ£Someone read my guide!GÇ¥ Fox Guide: Remote Explosives, Unleash the Mad BomberBut to answer your question, no, they are not OP. If they were OP everyone would be doing it. i havnt read your guide before.... Great minds think alike then. Enjoy the read, and provide feedback. I am always looking to improve my guides. |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
117
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:05:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:noob cavman wrote:Best kill with remotes is 14 out of 16 inside a indoor objective. Scanner and remotes are the perfect couple That is inspiring. Did you take a photo of the kill graph at the end of the match showing that tall stack of green dots?
Unfortunately not. Was aiming for the full 16 so I considered it a failure. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
408
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
im happy to say that re dont stick to stuff like c4....
i dont have to worry about random ppl running up on ym trying to throw c4 on my tank that is what im thankfull for.
(after playing bf4 beta)... |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:30:00 -
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Scout suit + RE = one hell of a defensive weapon. I'm having a blast seeing how long I can hold down a node by myself; best record currently is going 12-0 over the course of a match without having the node or CRU hacked. Fun really kicks in when you see three or four red dots light up your scanner and work their way towards you... |
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:14:00 -
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Well they're technically the only weapon you can score kills from when in a bleedout state if timed right. Again that takes a bit of chance to pull off.
What Remotes are most effective for is rush hacking an objective (Minmatar preferably). As you move up to an objective place remotes directly leading up to and on the objective. While keeping you detonator active you can begin the hack. In cases where you complete the hack and have a window to escape, the area is primed to prevent counter hack opportunities, or buy time to successfully transition a null canon state. However, if the enemy gets the drop on you before a complete hack, you simply disengage and either immediately detonate, or take your chances on a bleedout detonation when red dots try to resecure the objective.
Regardless, all strategies are countered by a well placed flux. So all is fair here. |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
163
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
I have explosive 5 because MDT that used to run rampant. This post gave me an idea about two RE experts standing on to of a dropship....... |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
235
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:44:00 -
[53] - Quote
Jadek Menaheim wrote:Well they're technically the only weapon you can score kills from when in a bleedout state if timed right. Again that takes a bit of chance to pull off.
What Remotes are most effective for is rush hacking an objective (Minmatar preferably). As you move up to an objective place remotes directly leading up to and on the objective. While keeping you detonator active you can begin the hack. In cases where you complete the hack and have a window to escape, the area is primed to prevent counter hack opportunities, or buy time to successfully transition a null canon state. However, if the enemy gets the drop on you before a complete hack, you simply disengage and either immediately detonate, or take your chances on a bleedout detonation when red dots try to resecure the objective.
Regardless, all strategies are countered by a well placed flux. So all is fair here. I've done this a few times but in a modified format. Place them at the two most common entry points to the panel
Begin hacking
Watch radar
Stop hacking to detonate when reds roll in
Continue hacking
Toss down next RE on hack point
Move along as appropriate
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Michael Epic
Universal Militia Contractings
93
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 16:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
You and I are kindred spirits. I'm stalking you in the game right now lol |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
609
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 17:38:00 -
[55] - Quote
Man oh man, a remote thread. I love these explosive devices. When I first got blown up by hacking an obj. I had to try it out myself. I got the the F/45s for faster detonation. I'm still iffy about the boundless, for one, they don't show the accurate blast radius. I wish a boundless can withstand a standard flux, but it ain't gonna happen.
Match I had today went 14/6 using REs as primary and NKs. I love holding down objtvs. by myself. I love watching their shells flying great distances, when they sprint they FLY even faster!! hahhaa. It's also awesome when they are firing at you and with the flick of the wrist KAABOOM.
In my mind, I wish we can see more realistic explosion damage. A mix of blood and smoke and mangled bodies. They are clones after all. Does anyone have experience with the boundless? |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
244
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 17:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
Corum Irsie wrote:Meh, bacon
Fat pig. Bacon is unhealthy and fatty |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
236
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 17:49:00 -
[57] - Quote
The lower set time of the basic can be an advantage against flux. A flux will not destroy them before they set, I've tossed them down while a flux storm is going off.... the the opponents come running to the corner thinking all clear....BOOM
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
23
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 18:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
I wish REs had a place on my heavy, but even so, there is a little bit of sadistic joy in a well placed explosive going off in someone's face and seeing the unaware assault go flying. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
783
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 18:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
getting killed by one doesn't show 0 skill... But it does show 0 wisdom. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
68
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 18:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
Boundless shine when you start seeting up larger minefilds or guarding multiple chokepoints, being able to have 5 deployed with another 4 from a set of F/45s gives you alot of coverage and 2 fireing groups, you can cover 4 shokepoints that way easily.
i usually setup in two firing groups, one outer layer and an inner layer used as a means of retreat or for when a push is big enough to breach your main line.
i dont have bounless though so i just use f/45s as outer defence and regular remotes as my inner safeguard.
your faster set should always be your outer ring due to the need to redeply them in a hurry for a quick reset |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1148
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 19:19:00 -
[61] - Quote
RE's are fine, people just need to be vigilant.
I use them to prevent counter hacking on my cheap demolition scout fit I made |
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
121
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 19:28:00 -
[62] - Quote
That feeling when you see one at your feet is like Switch in the first Matrix, "Oh no, not like this."
|
godhands9
Ancient Exiles
112
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 19:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
Remotes hold letters on there own..good stuff there. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1521
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 20:04:00 -
[64] - Quote
sucks for them for hacking the objective without looking for the burnt toast on ground. First time that happened to me, I congratulated the killer. That was smart and I didn't even think to check on ground. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
698
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 20:08:00 -
[65] - Quote
they're a utility. nothing a grenade can't handle. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1181
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 20:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
Working as intended. Don't use them myself though.
My only gripe is people pulling the trigger after I kill them. Once I kill you, you should lose access to the detonate button. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
656
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 20:14:00 -
[67] - Quote
As soon as people give up their protosuits with 800+ ehp and their Duvolle Assault Rifle that can eat through anything in under a second THEN I would be willing to negotiate about Remote Explosives being over powered. Until then they can go jump off a bridge because it is one of the only weapons that is guaranteed to kill them. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
71
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 20:22:00 -
[68] - Quote
low genius wrote:they're a utility. nothing a grenade can't handle.
you can place them to be boht not directly visable... and extremly hard to granade properly... and taking the time to do so usually results in death by SMG/or a granade of my own.
if you can see it... its the bait, not the boom |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
162
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 21:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:if you can see it... its the bait, not the boom Exactly. I made the mistake early on of placing my REs too close together; one grenade was all it took to set off all three. Now I lay them out (basic RE) in a triangle pattern, hoping that only the one closest to the node will be seen (and not the two behind the hacker, on either side.) For a CRU, though, I'll place two or three on the sides furthest away from me and jump down to shotgun anyone that goes to the unprotected side(s). |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1175
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 21:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill?
they're not OP. nothing compared to grenades. haha. when i do die to them, it's usually because i saw them and kept going. hahaha. |
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hgghyujh
expert intervention Caldari State
125
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 21:22:00 -
[71] - Quote
REs are where they need to be. People just ***** if they die to anything other then gun. Its ******* stupid, but there you have it. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1087
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 21:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
I'm tempted to replace my injector with a remote explosive...
Except that then I would be an even worse support player :/
Also by the way...do you use X-3 nanohives with your REs? Cause if you don't, I would highly recommned that you do, that is, if you can fit them. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
73
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 21:42:00 -
[73] - Quote
I-Shayz-I wrote:I'm tempted to replace my injector with a remote explosive...
Except that then I would be an even worse support player :/
Also by the way...do you use X-3 nanohives with your REs? Cause if you don't, I would highly recommned that you do, that is, if you can fit them.
ishikone gaged :P |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
609
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:44:00 -
[74] - Quote
BARDAS wrote:As soon as people give up their protosuits with 800+ ehp and their Duvolle Assault Rifle that can eat through anything in under a second THEN I would be willing to negotiate about Remote Explosives being over powered. Until then they can go jump off a bridge because it is one of the only weapons that is guaranteed to kill them. No one is jumpin off a bridge, we are sending them flying off the bridge hahhaah. the detonation on bleedout is cool and gangsta if you pull it off. I don't know if they will take that from us. It will be cool if we had an animation of our dying body trying to click his left wrist on bleedout. It will look epic. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6070
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:45:00 -
[75] - Quote
hgghyujh wrote:REs are where they need to be. People just ***** if they die to anything other then gun. Its ******* stupid, but there you have it. I've gotten RE hate mail from someone spamming grenades. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
824
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:53:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1793
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:54:00 -
[77] - Quote
I like when someone runs towards me with R/E i their hands and while they are dropping it i shoot at it.
You killed yourself dummy :3
so silly....
If i get killed by them i rage for a while, then think:'' well played..'''
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2044
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:55:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill?
Teach me! |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
74
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 22:56:00 -
[79] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes
46 remote kills......
dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1793
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 23:00:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv
You must love Flux grenades... |
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
75
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 23:03:00 -
[81] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv You must love Flux grenades...
they dont really effect me...
its not the remote you see thats the problem... its the one you DONT see, the first was just bait.
plus the time it takes you to flux the remote ive just ran away... i dont wait and stick around for you to chase me down, if you catch on i just GTFO |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1793
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 23:07:00 -
[82] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv You must love Flux grenades... they dont really effect me... its not the remote you see thats the problem... its the one you DONT see, the first was just bait. plus the time it takes you to flux the remote ive just ran away... i dont wait and stick around for you to chase me down, if you catch on i just GTFO
1-st I dont follow nobody, my scrambler has enough range for me to be behind covr most of the times :3
2-Thats nice, but im talking about Spamming grenades.Usually; after i get killed by a repote Exp User i drop a nanohive , and let the disco'nades flow into said area, ADV Flux's have enough blast radius to take out even Hidden R/E.....but thats just me :3
3rd-Im an amarr i cant catch on to anything XD
R/E are not OP. They are supposed to be 1HKO.... |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
824
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 23:40:00 -
[83] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv That's jokes, I had to keep going to the supply depot, u using a logi or assault? I ve seen u in a scout but also mko? |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
75
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 23:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv That's jokes, I had to keep going to the supply depot, u using a logi or assault? I ve seen u in a scout but also mko?
im usually MKO
and yah it was on the old gallante, with the objective inside that building next to the supply depot so ide spam inside my room then hop out for 4 more hives then camp till death and repeat. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2136
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 00:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
My only problem with them is still being able to detonate them after that person is killed, thats the only BS thing about them to me |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
825
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 00:12:00 -
[86] - Quote
Then fully kill them, nade the corpse, if ur bleeding you can detonate |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
239
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 00:16:00 -
[87] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:Then fully kill them, nade the corpse, if ur bleeding you can detonate Yup If i have time on the bleedout i will wait for more suits to show up before i detonate.... it's best to put a round or two into me if you down me |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
825
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 00:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:OZAROW wrote:Ghost what's your R/E record in a match with no gun or grenade kills? Mines 29 all remotes 46 remote kills...... dont ask, im not proud.... i couldn't stop yelling "STOP ******* COMING INTO THIS ROOM IDIOTS" at the tv That's jokes, I had to keep going to the supply depot, u using a logi or assault? I ve seen u in a scout but also mko? im usually MKO and yah it was on the old gallante, with the objective inside that building next to the supply depot so ide spam inside my room then hop out for 4 more hives then camp till death and repeat. How fast can the MK.0 go an how many shields? I was thinking about trying this suit |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6077
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 00:29:00 -
[89] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:How fast can the MK.0 go an how many shields? I was thinking about trying this suit 403 shields with max skill and with enhanced kin cats, I've managed to get just under 9m/s. |
Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
163
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 01:01:00 -
[90] - Quote
The only change I would suggest for REs is that Flux grenades should disable them rather than cause them to explode.
Otherwise they seem fine. |
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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
610
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 05:14:00 -
[91] - Quote
When I commit suicide with them I laugh a little. Whether someone shoots them as I place them or when they throw a grenade. I don't think they get points for the kill. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4717
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 05:17:00 -
[92] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require (no skill)? Look at the core nade ^. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
678
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 08:29:00 -
[93] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:hello folks im Chances Ghost and im a remote-aholic, you may remember me from that time you went flying across the map.
As an explosives expert i tend to get ALOT of hatemail/fanmail/GGs and it sees that there are some people out there that seem to think that remote explosives require no skill, are OP, and that im some sort of hellspawn of a troll who laughs as the bodys fly.
well part of that is right at least.
most people are used to the standard tricks of placing remotes on objectives, and tossing one as you die for the revenge kill. those are pretty standard and used quite oftin, by dedicated explsives experts and well everyone.
its not that imaginative and most deaths caused by them are easily prevented, you cant really get mad at that... you shoulda looked before you leaped, and against anyone whos smart and watches the killfeed it just plain wont work.
most people who use them that way use them like a sidearm, or like the equipment they are, a neat little trick to get an extra kill or two and give you a shot at defending an objective from far away.
unlike them however, they are my PRIMARY weapon. more then 70% of my kills are from remotes, and every day im coming up with new and interesting ways to sue them, from dropping them on people from above, to finding ways to trow them like frisbees, to (briefly) attaching them to teamates faces and letting them walk around as my own personal mobile explosive.
to drive this point home my weapon is an SMG wich is just weak enough to be underestimated and usually causes people to chase me like im an easy kill.
i use my remotes to hold CQC objectives from overwhelming numbers and once i get entrenched its extremly hard to remove me if i have some meat shields running around as distractions.
those that have faught me, please tell me. are REs OP?
do they truly require no skill?
Its always hilarious to go "I got this guy ...see him Ru..."Explodes" from previously laid explosives but to be fair these things don't or badly render on my PS3 so when i do see them i am already in the "In My Face" zone and most of the time unable to back out of it.
Having said that in my own Honor system i use ingame, explosives have always been a cheap way to get quick kills, like the noobtube or second wind guys getting most of their kills from one-shotting or getting killed-but still be able to kill the guy who killed you from second winding, though claymores setup with a spring trigger in a tactical location is fine, being able to throw C4 instakill-cookies as extra grenades feels wrong in my book, not only does trhowing these bypass cooking / timing grenades as you can just throw and press the button at the right time.
Personally, i have issues with every weapon that can One-Shot someone else, without the need for aiming.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
79
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 09:50:00 -
[94] - Quote
Rei Shepard wrote:
Personally, i have issues with every weapon that can One-Shot someone else, without the need for aiming.
oh but it does require aim, i have to aim well in advance of there ever being a person to aim at :P |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9467
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 10:07:00 -
[95] - Quote
/me wishes the Mass Driver was more effective at EOD |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
678
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 10:08:00 -
[96] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Personally, i have issues with every weapon that can One-Shot someone else, without the need for aiming.
oh but it does require aim, i have to aim well in advance of there ever being a person to aim at :P
Lol, if idd use them (witch i don't) i think they would be a real asset to my playstyle, or maybe they would be too tedious to use with KBM, like grenades.
But i imagin if i in a scenario like yesterday, assault a position, peek trough a wall, take out 2 guys ...backup ..place explosive ...wait for chump to come get me .."BOOM" ...move trough shoot some more people, backup again and then a blob came trough the crack, killed half of the blob and then i overheated my Imperial aand it went downhill from there... but with the explosive, they would have all been dead.
Though i am not sure if i would be ok with "aiming in advance", i am too much of a relic with my own imposed honorable codes i suppose....
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
79
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 10:23:00 -
[97] - Quote
Rei Shepard wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Personally, i have issues with every weapon that can One-Shot someone else, without the need for aiming.
oh but it does require aim, i have to aim well in advance of there ever being a person to aim at :P Lol, if idd use them (witch i don't) i think they would be a real asset to my playstyle, or maybe they would be too tedious to use with KBM, like grenades. But i imagin if i in a scenario like yesterday, assault a position, peek trough a wall, take out 2 guys ...backup ..place explosive ...wait for chump to come get me .."BOOM" ...move trough shoot some more people, backup again and then a blob came trough the crack, killed half of the blob and then i overheated my Imperial aand it went downhill from there... but with the explosive, they would have all been dead. Though i am not sure if i would be ok with "aiming in advance", i am too much of a relic with my own imposed honorable codes i suppose....
eh, dont bend your own code for them its not worth it.
me? im a tactician. i read the battle and act acordingly.
using REs as a primary weapon requires prediction and manipulation. i purposly take hits so that i apear weak, or leave a remote int he open to stall for time as they waste effort getting rid of it. place them out of sight or in such a way that they have to leave themselves open if they want to get rid of it, alowing me to shoot with the SMG or give me a second extra to cook my granade.
they are also REALLY tedious with KB/M we really need hotkeys for KB/M users to quick swap to equipments the wheel just doesnt work...
i use DS3 (with aim assist off that thing just gets in the way) and have everything just stored in muscle memory so i can swap to remotes just as easily as someone else can switch to their secondary.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
58
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:21:00 -
[98] - Quote
RE = best counter to the lumbering heavy.
anyhting within that kill zone of 10m i think it is. = dead. i only have adv and its a beast present for the reds. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
71
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 14:03:00 -
[99] - Quote
No no no Op the REs are fine you have to plan ahead etc...Its not like you can run out holding down a trigger and get kills then it would be an AR. You shouldn't have brought all this attention to RE no all Ars are going to cry when you dent their k/ds.Then you know what happens next ..NERF BY AR HAMMER. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
614
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 08:24:00 -
[100] - Quote
Something amazing happened. I planted 4REs in B. There was a heated battle in CQC. we kept spawning at letter they kept sawning in cru next to it. we kept spawning spawning. We lost the fight at the end. But we had the cru. everyone was dead inclucing me. I try to spawn qucikly to detonate because enemy was hacking in a group. nobody spawned in to kill them. Out of nowhere 2 or 3 kills. Someone exploded them! Stopped the hack clean. then my team was able to spawn and keep defending. enemy couldn't attack no more, no more uplinks I suppose.
My REs won the war!!! |
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
328
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Posted - 2013.10.17 08:31:00 -
[101] - Quote
Please CCP - Give us sticky explosives. The fun is only just beginning |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:25:00 -
[102] - Quote
Okay, you want dissent - I think the drop and bait is about as suited to a gun game as murder taxi's were.
Now if it were bomber man 514...
But it aint |
Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
72
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:42:00 -
[103] - Quote
Blake Kingston wrote:Okay, you want dissent - I think the drop and bait is about as suited to a gun game as murder taxi's were.
Now if it were bomber man 514...
But it aint
Dust 514 is a shooter but there is a tactical element as well.
And there is nothing, in my opinion, more tactical than a weapon that can single handedly protect an objective even when you are on the other side of the map. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
82
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:57:00 -
[104] - Quote
Blake Kingston wrote:Okay, you want dissent - I think the drop and bait is about as suited to a gun game as granades are
Now if it were bomber man 514...
But it aint
FIFY |
hgghyujh
expert intervention Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:54:00 -
[105] - Quote
I think the only time I really raged at RE's was when I was having a **** game and I shot and up link that had an RE underneath, GOD I WAS PISSSED and then as i was winding down and almost at the point of saying well played my roommate gives me **** about it and spun me right back up.......
It was a really ****** round. |
hgghyujh
expert intervention Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:57:00 -
[106] - Quote
Blake Kingston wrote:Okay, you want dissent - I think the drop and bait is about as suited to a gun game as murder taxi's were.
Now if it were bomber man 514...
But it aint
yes please no tactics in my gun game I mean we should just get rid of vehicles and every mode but ambush and any thing but ARs, SGs, and sniper rifles....................... |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
48
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:14:00 -
[107] - Quote
If you see someone who runs Remotes on the other side and/or see a kill feed using Remotes. Right then and there your mind should tell you " Nothing is as it seems " when approaching them or a objective you even think they might have come across.
Something about sloppy second's jokes would come to mind me thinks regarding this.
\o/ YEA ERRR |
Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
917
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:24:00 -
[108] - Quote
I didn't read the responses, but I very rarely die from these, I always nade objectives, and I always see them on the ground from the hopefulls. Skill wise they are the same as nearly all other explosives on this game, not much required at all, though remotes can be one of the most deadly things in the game when I player gets skilled in their deployment, I saw someone get 7 kills from 1 the other day, mini OB lool. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
412
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:40:00 -
[109] - Quote
Once I died and forgot about my remotes, and an enemy shot it and killed himself... |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
325
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:50:00 -
[110] - Quote
RE dont bother me one bit. Its not widely used and it requires good placement or at least creative placement. Its not like one of the death ray weapons out there where just holding down fire = dead people. |
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Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
321
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:53:00 -
[111] - Quote
Remotes are like the easiest thing to avoid, I've never been killed by one for a very long time
For every objective you plan on hacking, toss a grenade at it, and boom, its safe to hack
I'm surprised more people just don't do that as well. |
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