I probably could, yes. But first I ask that you use PUNCTUATION, such as a PERIOD at the end of your bloody sentences. If and when you can manage something so simple as that, I'll definitely stop insulting people... just as soon as you do. Now you're a 'tardy AND a hypocrite. Well done.

Dear snipers

Get your cowardly asses out of the red line and help cap an objective, dropping half a guys shields while he is on the ass end of the map away from anything important isnt helping

Hi a friend of mine created a chat channel just for snipers to hang out in. We only want snipers and you have to be a dedicated sniper. (At least an NT-511).

Also we would really like if we only had people who snipe, meaning if you squad up in this chat, then your doing it to snipe.

And before you ask, no we don't want Forge Gun snipers, and no we do not count Railguns as snipers.

If you want in on the chat channel, then just mail me or Natalia Kush. We will accept you as soon as possible. But if you don't have a sniper rifle, then you can expect to be kicked from the chat channel.

The channel is now invite only to prevent anti-snipers from joining

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PS I know I put this in the War Room, but I also wanted it in General Discussions as well

I guess you guys are going for the record of Matches Lost ?

Wow, congratulations, you not only redline snipe without at least understanding the unfairness (yes, this is a game and if you don't share the same risk you demean the playing of it) implicit in it....you now try to use your military experience to lend some credibility to your untenable position.

ON BEHALF OF THE REST OF THE CURRENT AND FORMER MILITARY PLAYERS OF DUST, I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS BEHAVIOR.

Sniping and combat in general is not supposed to be fair, it's about winning...but this is a game, not real combat. Besides, a real sniper would go to the enemy redline and snipe. People like you are why I counter-snipe, I love making them lose Thales.

Wow, a lot of butt-hurt whining sniper haters crawling out of the woodwork. All I hear from you whiny losers is blub blub blub through the tears flowing down your face.

I'm a sniper 99% of the time and guest what. I don't like it when I get sniped either. I don't like it when I'm run over by a LAV, hit by a tank shell, blasted by a grenade, fall into a vat of acid, eat some AR rounds, take a shotgun blast to the back of the head, or die by any other means.

However, you won't see me QQing about any of these (unless it's landing in acid after leaping from the MCC).

Also, I will suggest, there are some maps that I'll take out a Thales on. When I do I'm going to want to not lose it if possible... so if I'm in the redline killing people attempting to hack objectives you'll just have to live with it.

You sniper haters are just going to have to live with your butthurt. Well, that and continue to convince CCP to make maps less hospitable to snipers.

heh I'll tell you what I told some of the others in this thread you can keep those thales they not that great to begin with maybe before uprising but now it's not worth the time or attention so while you snipe in the red line with a thale I'll just hit you with my charge

If you prefer a different weapon that's fine. However, compared to most of the sniper rifle stable the Thales kicks butt. And if you can counter snipe me then there is no need to whine about where I'm situated, is there?

However, you'll have to hope I don't see you first.

I probably could, yes. But first I ask that you use PUNCTUATION, such as a PERIOD at the end of your bloody sentences. If and when you can manage something so simple as that, I'll definitely stop insulting people... just as soon as you do. Now you're a 'tardy AND a hypocrite. Well done.

Excuse me, this is a video game forum.

Formalities are not necessary here.

no need for hate mail you already know you go 0-20 every game u dont snipe

Then you sir, have never faced me in battle when I use my AR or HMG(Beta). But I cant say that for true for you may be an ALT, could it be I owned you many times before and you are afraid to show your face.

You have my permission to invite me. Itsmellslikefish king sniper.

Excuse me, this is a video game forum.

Formalities are not necessary here.

Shut your frickin mouth. How have you any right to demean his military service simply because your stupid opinions differ? Truly the mark of a childish punk. I'm AD USMC. You insult me with your f***ing arrogance.

I just want to say I think its hilarious the guys getting up in arms and taking it as a personal insult when I tell them that hiding behind the red line is a puss move and rarely contributes and them going "Well I dont do it those other guys just suck" is the cherry on top since Ive actually seen a couple of you in battle doing exactly that

Atiim I have seen you sit on top of a ridge in the redline of Manus Peak and your dot never moved, your name never showed up as killing anyone, and a big chunk of the fighting on that map took place around objective B when it was that big warehouse type installation IE completely indoors and out of any firing lane you had so you going on about how you made a channel for good snipers and how not everyone is like that rings hollow to me

And as for Operative rambling about positioning and what spots are optimal the red line is rarely the optimal spot especially with variations in the installations that can be on the map, hell the manus peak example proves that, and someone willing to go down to where things get rowdy usually make much more of a difference simply because he gets a better firing range
For instance I was in a match on spine crescent and locked down the bridge with just myself near A and an actual decent sniper providing over watching standing on top of the installation at D

and how is that a bad thing I flew dropships when no one would ******* touch them so yes when they went OP as hell I did it too see how many idiots would copy me besides I'm shocked anyone remembers that and incase you didn't know I was sniping alot back then too but I guess you wouldn't remember that since sniping wasn't as bad back then besides for you to get behind me would require skill because i'll be in a spot that either requires a dropship or you to expose yourself to me

I can read. I know what he's implying. What he's doing, however, is inexcusable. You don't apologize "in the name of all those who have served," as if you stand for all of us. Bringing someone's military service and then honor into question is dishonorable in and of itself. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. Something Marines are taught from day one in boot.

Every other post I've made in this thread I have been trolling my arse off, save one. About this, I'm 100% serious. No one has a right to call into question someone else's service, without their SRB in front of them, and having actually served with him. Period.

Manus peak GÇö yes there are spots on the north and south sides that are prime spots. Yes they happen to be in the redline on the hills where you can see all points as well as be protected from the side you are not monitoring for counter snipers. I get my biggest kills on this one it's so small.

Line Harvest GÇö there are a couple of prime spots on the north side. Yes they are in the redline on the hills where you can take care of traffic around and between C and D. A couple of points for the south side that are just off the redline for B and A. Otherwise, if your team can actually hold there side of the map then the buildings do allow for protected spots to your flank.

Spine Cresent GÇö way up on the mountain ridges on the west off the redline. You can see all the points and when the reds light up at A they render. D and E is not directly exposed but you get good through and rear traffic at those buildings. You can also get ppl in their redlines. I even almost got a tanker up there just below me repping his tank. He jumped back in before i could get him.

Ashland GÇö the main places are in the redline because that's where the hills are. There is a good spot just off the redline on the east side that is perfect for the central area traffic.

Iron Delta GÇö C is a great wide area. Yes it is in the redline but then C is butt up against the redline. Also, you can get people on the top of the round building when it's there. On the other side you can defend D. If you defend A and B you might as well go tac rifle marksman for the urban inner outpost.

Skim junction is the biggest movement to different positions. I usually go dropship or tank for this.

The new maps absolutely do not allow for any sniping at the objective points. But you do what your role is which is to cut the cross traffic. I go dropship if the movement is slim.

An effective position doesn't mean you are closer. If you are dead due to assaults et al then you are more useless than a sniper who knows how to stay out of LOS while sniping.

A limited area with limited LOS at a time is better than a big area where you can see everything at once. However, as stated above there are some juicy yet exposed areas.

Dear snipers

Get your cowardly asses out of the red line and help cap an objective, dropping half a guys shields while he is on the ass end of the map away from anything important isnt helping

CCP should just make it so we can team kill anyone with a sniper in their fitting, and if they dont earn at least 5000wp a match they dont get any rewards, that should fix things

Sniping is about finding the targets. If I can do that from the redline and get a big enough vantage point then it is legit. Stop measuring ******* d*cks, defining someone as a coward. Jeez, y'all have got a lot of growing up to do. Sounds like 16 year olds. You get the kills and/or stop the enemy from moving in or overcoming a position. Who gives a rat's ass where it happens? Lol.

The neckbeard wannabe macho man factor is strong in here.

Dear Haters,

Well for one, I'm sorry that your parents didn't love you enough to teach you common sense. You clearly have never ran into or squaded with good snipers. Because good snipers tell you where everything is, what is being called in, where the enemy is and has far better range than any active scanner. And they can help with fire support

Squad up with a good sniper and then try to have a way hate us for a good reason.