any sniper in the redline isn't a sniper calling them one is an insult to us actual snipers

Wow, congratulations, you not only redline snipe without at least understanding the unfairness (yes, this is a game and if you don't share the same risk you demean the playing of it) implicit in it....you now try to use your military experience to lend some credibility to your untenable position.

ON BEHALF OF THE REST OF THE CURRENT AND FORMER MILITARY PLAYERS OF DUST, I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS BEHAVIOR.

Sniping and combat in general is not supposed to be fair, it's about winning...but this is a game, not real combat. Besides, a real sniper would go to the enemy redline and snipe. People like you are why I counter-snipe, I love making them lose Thales.

I can read. I know what he's implying. What he's doing, however, is inexcusable. You don't apologize "in the name of all those who have served," as if you stand for all of us. Bringing someone's military service and then honor into question is dishonorable in and of itself. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. Something Marines are taught from day one in boot.

Every other post I've made in this thread I have been trolling my arse off, save one. About this, I'm 100% serious. No one has a right to call into question someone else's service, without their SRB in front of them, and having actually served with him. Period.

Manus peak GÇö yes there are spots on the north and south sides that are prime spots. Yes they happen to be in the redline on the hills where you can see all points as well as be protected from the side you are not monitoring for counter snipers. I get my biggest kills on this one it's so small.

Line Harvest GÇö there are a couple of prime spots on the north side. Yes they are in the redline on the hills where you can take care of traffic around and between C and D. A couple of points for the south side that are just off the redline for B and A. Otherwise, if your team can actually hold there side of the map then the buildings do allow for protected spots to your flank.

Spine Cresent GÇö way up on the mountain ridges on the west off the redline. You can see all the points and when the reds light up at A they render. D and E is not directly exposed but you get good through and rear traffic at those buildings. You can also get ppl in their redlines. I even almost got a tanker up there just below me repping his tank. He jumped back in before i could get him.

Ashland GÇö the main places are in the redline because that's where the hills are. There is a good spot just off the redline on the east side that is perfect for the central area traffic.

Iron Delta GÇö C is a great wide area. Yes it is in the redline but then C is butt up against the redline. Also, you can get people on the top of the round building when it's there. On the other side you can defend D. If you defend A and B you might as well go tac rifle marksman for the urban inner outpost.

Skim junction is the biggest movement to different positions. I usually go dropship or tank for this.

The new maps absolutely do not allow for any sniping at the objective points. But you do what your role is which is to cut the cross traffic. I go dropship if the movement is slim.

An effective position doesn't mean you are closer. If you are dead due to assaults et al then you are more useless than a sniper who knows how to stay out of LOS while sniping.

A limited area with limited LOS at a time is better than a big area where you can see everything at once. However, as stated above there are some juicy yet exposed areas.

And yet those are great positions. I see targets, see the flow of battle, catch the cross traffic, see targets at mutiple points, most of the time protected on one or more sides with only the direction I'm targeting in view like a sniper is supposed to do. And, I get the kills and help the assaults do their job which is cap objectives.

This thread is a case of people not understanding the art and tactics of sniping, not appreciating it and/or just not respecting it and ultimately having a different methodology for applying it. Most people who run vanilla assault seem to think everyone needs to do that or it's no good.

You've got your positions and style; I've got mine. That's another whole discussion entirely between snipers.

The only sniping I do is either behind an objective defending, or just behind the enemies headshotting them if possible. Funny story that happened today: I was sniping as usual, then suddenly a LAV full of protobears ran right into me. I survived, then the second they hit me, a proto heavy, Caldari assault, and gallente all jumped out and insta killed me. Scared the **** outta me. Moral of the story: never snipe on low ground.