You fit is almost identical to mine, the H/L modules particularly.

I had the same dilemma. I decided to go with the GLU instead of the Duvolle because of two things:

1. The Duvolle gets you something like 3.5 extra damage a round for around 45 extra CPU. And while that kind of increase might be worth it on a high RPM weapon like the the AR, on the TAR it's not as much bang for your buck.

2. HP trumps damage output, always. More damage is good because you're better able to kill the other guy before he kills you. On the other hand, more HP is good because the other guy needs more time to kill you in a shootout. It's symmetric. But! Outside of this one on one scenario, extra damage output is useless. Your Duvolle with its extra damage isn't going to help you when you're being shot at by a HAV, nor a sniper, nor a forge gunner, nor a turret. It's not going to help you when somebody flanks you and starts shooting you in the back. It's not going to help you tank falling damage nor locus grenade damage. It's not going to help you when you're running away from a squad of reds, bullets whizzing around you. But having that extra HP definitely will help in all those situations!

Your core skills are basically maxed out, so no help there.

Why use the M1 grenades? If you use standard tier grenades, get that last level of Dropsuit Core Upgrades, put some points into Explosives or whatever for the CPU reduction, you might just have enough CPU for the Duvolle, the complex shield, and the standard grenades. You'd need to open up the fitting tool to see if that's doable, I'm just spitballing here.

PS Lol @ people advocating removing armor repper/bashing on dual tanking.

List your entire fitting and we might just help you...

List your entire fitting and we might just help you...

Drop the Scanner for a K-2 Hives, enhanced armor, enhanced regulator, and complex or enhanced kin cat.

I gotta fever and the only prescription is more proto weapons.

+1 if you get the reference

If you consider yourself a primary tanker IMO it's best to have more HP, as you'll probably find yourself alone more times than not. The GEK is still a formidable weapon and I don't think there is much of a difference in damage. Maybe you should just build two fittings, one with damage one with HP and run what you need at the time.

My role makes me the one who's "often alone but never REALLY alone" lol. So yes, I think there are times when those 33 HP would really make the difference.

As a very specialized flanker, I'm usuaully 20 meters behind the assault line of my squad, following them up close, but sometimes not close enough for them to protect me. Sometimes I have to move to the left or right side to cause disruption and I find myself too distant (it's necessary) to have my back covered. If the enemies decide I'm their priority, the rest of my team will push them, but the risk is very high for me.

Thanks for your input, it made me think. I'd rather use the GLU rather than the GEK, though, because of my role and my love for the TAC AR.

My Caldari suit has really crappy PG/CPU. Even with Electronics 5 and Engineering 4, I still run out of CPU.

To fit a Proto weapon, I have to give up my 4th Complex extender and the Enhanced one is... disappointing (33 HP instead of 66 is a big step behind).

What would you go for?

Tell me you play style and I will make you an uber fit right here right now

But I'm a dedicated flanker, I rely quite much on the scanner. I'm not the typical run-and-gunner.

Anyway, I really appreciate your suggestion.

OK this is something very relevant to my interests.

OP is dual tanking, which is a playstyle I used to like, but with ordinary plates?

The way I see it there are multiple feasible and role based ways to fit a medium suit, one of which (shield tank callogi) is the currently the player favorite

However, I'm very interested in what the other shield based fits are and why they are suboptimal.

• Full extenders with plates/cpu upgrades in low
• Full extenders with max energizers in low
• Full extenders with max repair in low
• Dual tanking with shield extenders and repair, plates and armor repair

Can any proto/PC veterans comment on that, and maybe also on shield repair modules, I see most fits at 4 extenders

Then there are the bastard versions of plating to maintain speed/mobility (flanker).

• Full plates and repair+ kincat
• Blended reactives and plates
• Full ferroscales + repair

I have run all these fits to compare them, and I always end up with really similar stats when I have optimized within CPU/PG limits. I ended up running my gallente pro at complex dmg mods, and 3 ferroscales + repair because it was easier to manage.

Assault CK.0

-Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle

-Submachine Gun

-M1 Locus Grenade

-3x Complex Shield Extender
-1x Enhanced Shield Extender

-2x Basic Armor Plate
-1x Basic Armor Repairer

-Enhanced Quantum Scanner

Then drop the Plates and Rep for some dampening, speed and stamina.

If you are going to be engageing the enemy from a flank, you don't need to shield and dual tank as much. Focus more on mobility and stealth.

You're not a logi. Stop being a wp whor3 are equip better tank- not a scanner. That is our logo friend's job. Bring a stick to pick him up if qnything.
Also, you're not a caldari logi, so stop armor tanking and use shield regulators of fitting mods.

You have the wrong suit for what our trying to do. Either be an assault and shield tank itself like u can BC or a skirmisher with a TAR, or spec logi

OK this is something very relevant to my interests.

OP is dual tanking, which is a playstyle I used to like, but with ordinary plates?

The way I see it there are multiple feasible and role based ways to fit a medium suit, one of which (shield tank callogi) is the currently the player favorite

However, I'm very interested in what the other shield based fits are and why they are suboptimal.

• Full extenders with plates/cpu upgrades in low
• Full extenders with max energizers in low
• Full extenders with max repair in low
• Dual tanking with shield extenders and repair, plates and armor repair

Can any proto/PC veterans comment on that, and maybe also on shield repair modules, I see most fits at 4 extenders

Then there are the bastard versions of plating to maintain speed/mobility (flanker).

• Full plates and repair+ kincat
• Blended reactives and plates
• Full ferroscales + repair

I have run all these fits to compare them, and I always end up with really similar stats when I have optimized within CPU/PG limits. I ended up running my gallente pro at complex dmg mods, and 3 ferroscales + repair because it was easier to manage.

I'm doing fine what I do. Why do some people insist I need to change my fitting to suit my playstyle? I feel very comfortable with high HP and the Scanner and I always end up with a good KDR.

I'm not looking for game-play advice.

And I'm not a wp wh*re lol. The scanner is part of me...

OP should be shield tanking

Op isnt just dual tanking - OP wants it all with no drawbacks.

If he is truly a flanker then he wouldnt need all of that tank and would even invest in a damage mod to increase his output though if he uses an AR... no need (CCP )

Every setup should have to make some tough choice and dropping down to an enhanced ext when he already has armor and multiple extenders is hardly a tradeoff.

Can't, sorry... The scanner really suits my playstyle and results in my most powerful weapon... Dropping it would be a downgrade to me.

I flank just fine with no scanner and dampeners with my Scrambler Rifle.

Questionable...

What about changing the M1 to Locus grenade and Armor repair to Basic Plate?
Would that free up enough CPU for you? Do you NEED the repair?

Also there's option to change the advanced scanner to flux active scanner.

And why the hell am I helping you to get more deadly?

Well, major problem with Shield Tanking at the moment is that there are quite a bit of weapons designed to kill shields. Both of the mainstay rifles (Assault and Scrambler) do more damage to shields than armor and with the Mass Driver bug making splash damage not tie into resistances, it's doing full damage against shields. Shotgun, Scrambler Pistol, etc...

I'm seeing a lot more people use the Shield Tanking role like frontline Armor Tankers instead of flankers. These people are usually the ones complaining that 'x' weapon is OP but it's playstyle, really. So many of them will take you on in the gun game, strafing back and forth and trying to kill you before you kill them... But they never seem to have any sense of self preservation - they never seem to understand that, being a shield tanker, you have to disengage for a bit to recover and come back when you have full health while the armor tanker is still trying to recover.