have u tried a cpu upgrade?

fit both and change something else....


seriously what on earth are you fitting to that thing that you even have to make this choice?

List your entire fitting and we might just help you...

change rep to basic plate, change scanner to compact rep hive...

problem solved, now you have more EHP, reps and ammo and are you the official "slayer" fit the pros use. bonus points if you can shove core locus granades on there with the saved cpu

And why the hell am I helping you to get more deadly?

how much CPU are you over by with both the extender and your proto weapon? there might be another way to make it fit (at the cost of SP)

I'd say go for as many CPU upgrades as you want and i say this because the idea of dual tanking burns my eyes. hell get CPU and PG upgrades in those low slots to get proto nades and proto SMG instead of dual tanking...

I gotta fever and the only prescription is more proto weapons.

Agreed.

Shield Energizer/recharger + Extenders + Regulators on a Caldari suit goes much further than a bunch of plates that slow you down. EHP isn't everything when you can pop into cover real quick and regen 2/3 of your max shields in a couple of seconds.

You fit is almost identical to mine, the H/L modules particularly.

I had the same dilemma. I decided to go with the GLU instead of the Duvolle because of two things:

1. The Duvolle gets you something like 3.5 extra damage a round for around 45 extra CPU. And while that kind of increase might be worth it on a high RPM weapon like the the AR, on the TAR it's not as much bang for your buck.

2. HP trumps damage output, always. More damage is good because you're better able to kill the other guy before he kills you. On the other hand, more HP is good because the other guy needs more time to kill you in a shootout. It's symmetric. But! Outside of this one on one scenario, extra damage output is useless. Your Duvolle with its extra damage isn't going to help you when you're being shot at by a HAV, nor a sniper, nor a forge gunner, nor a turret. It's not going to help you when somebody flanks you and starts shooting you in the back. It's not going to help you tank falling damage nor locus grenade damage. It's not going to help you when you're running away from a squad of reds, bullets whizzing around you. But having that extra HP definitely will help in all those situations!

Your core skills are basically maxed out, so no help there.

Why use the M1 grenades? If you use standard tier grenades, get that last level of Dropsuit Core Upgrades, put some points into Explosives or whatever for the CPU reduction, you might just have enough CPU for the Duvolle, the complex shield, and the standard grenades. You'd need to open up the fitting tool to see if that's doable, I'm just spitballing here.

PS Lol @ people advocating removing armor repper/bashing on dual tanking.

Drop the Scanner for a K-2 Hives, enhanced armor, enhanced regulator, and complex or enhanced kin cat.

+1 if you get the reference

If you consider yourself a primary tanker IMO it's best to have more HP, as you'll probably find yourself alone more times than not. The GEK is still a formidable weapon and I don't think there is much of a difference in damage. Maybe you should just build two fittings, one with damage one with HP and run what you need at the time.

Tell me you play style and I will make you an uber fit right here right now

You're not a logi. Stop being a wp whor3 are equip better tank- not a scanner. That is our logo friend's job. Bring a stick to pick him up if qnything.
Also, you're not a caldari logi, so stop armor tanking and use shield regulators of fitting mods.

You have the wrong suit for what our trying to do. Either be an assault and shield tank itself like u can BC or a skirmisher with a TAR, or spec logi

OP should be shield tanking

Op isnt just dual tanking - OP wants it all with no drawbacks.

If he is truly a flanker then he wouldnt need all of that tank and would even invest in a damage mod to increase his output though if he uses an AR... no need (CCP )

Every setup should have to make some tough choice and dropping down to an enhanced ext when he already has armor and multiple extenders is hardly a tradeoff.

I flank just fine with no scanner and dampeners with my Scrambler Rifle.

I wasnt blaming you for carrying an AR (if you were), that was a dig at CCP.

Your setup is pretty stacked. You are quibbling about losing 33 HP when you are already well tanked. Worse yet you say that you are a flanker so if you are you would more than likely be looking to up your DPS and forego some HP.

The game is about putting your suit together anyway you want but the suit should have a limit and tradeoffs have to be made. Others have even suggested you could add a CPU mod but you are worrying about losing the basic rep and oh the humanity, having unused PG/CPU.

Your setup is great, there are ways you can tweak it that will be more to your strenghts and playstyle but you cant and shouldnt have it all.

Alternative is for CCP to blow up all classes and just let us build what we want given our SP

To answer your question I would go for the HP for the TAR and the weapon for the Scrambler(I would even swap out a shield for a damage mod with the scrambler).


I see a few options on how to get your ideal fitting to work:

You might be able to get both by swapping out the M1 to standard locus and the repairer for basic reactive plates if you get engineering to level 5.

Another option is to get your light weapon operation(and possibly sidearm operation and explosives) skilled up if you haven't(most people ignore these skills).

You may want to consider switching to the A-19 Stable Active Scanner and swapping to reactive plates instead of the repper plus getting a few CPU out of a skill upgrade.




Basic plates are still the best bang for your buck as far as fitting costs go. Two basic plates give you more armor than a single complex plate for a lower fitting cost. What's the point of using complex if you're going to need to use the spare slot for a cpu or PG upgrade?

Hey Keri!

Thought i'd give you my 2 cents on the matter. I personally never like using PG or CPU mods because I feel that if you put em on you're not fitting your suit efficiently

BUT

In terms of the caldari suit and its shield tanking ability I feel differently. I tried this fit on the fitting tool and it only requires you to place 1 basic CPU mod and no changes in your equipment:

Assault Ck.0

Highs: 4x complex shield extenders
Lows: Basic plate, basic repper, basic CPU upgrade

L wep: Duvolle TAC
S wep: SMG

Grenade: M1 Locus

Equip: A-45 Quantum Active Scanner

On my fitting screen it shows 394/434 CPU and 74/75 PG with 553 shields and 240 armor

I think this fit will allow you to sacrifice a little bit of armor for more shields as opposed to sacrificing your weapon for more shields.

On top of all that I believe that you should look into regulators, a member of my permanent squad runs a shield tanked caldari with Complex extenders on the highs and regulators on the lows and; I cannot beat him, he is the best flanker/skirmisher i've ever had the pleasure to play with and with good use of cover and situational awareness you don't need any more armor or repping for that matter. He says that 150 armor goes away instantly anyway so his play style revolves around the enemy never getting down to his armor, and he dies at most twice in any game i play with him.

Don't let these people leave a bad taste in your mouth, I can attest to the fact that your play style and strategy is extremely effective since I've been on the receiving end of it. If you can make sure that you're in cover before they eat through your armor those regulators should kick in after a good few seconds and you'll have already moved positions to flank and pick off your opponent.

o7 Keri hope that helped in any way, we should squad up soon.