So I was playing another fun game of skirmish today when all of a sudden, blues started disappearing from my radar.

What?

So I go check out what's going on only to die to 3 F**KING TANKS! Holy t*ts! Not one, but three! And to make things even worse, ground soldiers started coming in.

F**k this! It's Nerf or nothing!

I just camped at Objective C and dealt with soldiers that came into range without help from the tanks.

We finally got to score a win for Gallente FW before alI got to score a free hacked tank, though.

There needs to be a limit of tanks in a match (heck, there needs to be a limit for all vehicles).

Ambush - 0 tanks, 1 LAV per side, and 1 dropship per side.
Skirmish - Depends on how many objectives there are, but 1-2 tanks per side, 2-4 LAV's per side, and 2-3 dropships per side.
Domination - 1 tank per side, 2 LAV's per side, and 1 dropship per side.

At the very least tanks need to be perma banned from all forms of ambush, dropships too.

To be honest it's a fair argument if one team has 5 tanks on the field (thats the most I have ever seen on one team) and especially those god-tanks that have 15mil+ SP into them, is a bit unfair and denies the whole field to almost all infantry (except snipers and forges on buildings).

often times in skirmish games, if your team has lots of tanks/dropships you won't have the numbers to take and hold objectives.
Also if I ever got into a game and was unable to call in my vehicle I would be pissed. You cant expect me to run around in militia gear. Why not make it so we only allow 4 ars, 2 md, 2 snipers, and one fg to add diversity. so no not a fair argument

Edit :char made the same argument

so why weren't you in one of the tanks gunner seats?

(btw im not anti-tank so thats not my approach to this)

To be honest it's a fair argument if one team has 5 tanks on the field (thats the most I have ever seen on one team) and especially those god-tanks that have 15mil+ SP into them, is a bit unfair and denies the whole field to almost all infantry (except snipers and forges on buildings).

I guess it comes down to me being selfish and feeling that I can get more kills or have a better chances of surviving. besides me being in a gunners seat doesn't really help the numbers for the guys trying to cap objectives unless its a map that I can be covered easily by the tank to hop out and capture. Mostly I'm greedy for kills

Its a bit unfair when a team has five 15mil sp proto bear on their side, the result is the same. Except that you can hide from a tank.

To be honest it's a fair argument if one team has 5 tanks on the field (thats the most I have ever seen on one team) and especially those god-tanks that have 15mil+ SP into them, is a bit unfair and denies the whole field to almost all infantry (except snipers and forges on buildings).

To be honest it's a fair argument if one team has 5 tanks on the field (thats the most I have ever seen on one team) and especially those god-tanks that have 15mil+ SP into them, is a bit unfair and denies the whole field to almost all infantry (except snipers and forges on buildings).

not any more unfair than a team of proto (1) sniper (2) duvolle assaults (1) callogi w/ freedom (1) heavy (1)assault forge
....or (6) duvolle callogis. lol


anything that gets spammed is annoying...except core locus grenades and ARs for some reason.

Its a bit unfair when a team has five 15mil sp proto bear on their side, the result is the same. Except that you can hide from a tank.

HAV should defo be punted from Ambush, and a cap on skirmish seems logical

HAV should defo be punted from Ambush, and a cap on skirmish seems logical

not any more unfair than a team of proto (1) sniper (2) duvolle assaults (1) callogi w/ freedom (1) heavy (1)assault forge
....or (6) duvolle callogis. lol

Here's the flaw with that analogy... infantry are vulnerable to everything in the game, and most players are equipped to kill infantry specifically. A militia AR can take out my 220k proto suit in about a second. It gets 1-2 shotted by a militia sniper, 1 shotted against any shotgun.. etc etc.

However tanks and vehicles require very specific weapons to take out, and a lot of the time need the perfect situation and scenario to pull off successfully. And when infantry are running AV, they are vulnerable to all the other anti-infantry units on the field (including the vehicles that can insta-kill the AV player).


For vehicles to be fair in this game, all suits need a dedicated AV light weapon slot with dedicated PG and CPU (that way the extra slot or CPU/PG can't be used to beef up the suit for non-AV purposes). Tanks are universally good against everything, however infantry has to choose whether to be useful against vehicles and unless against infantry, or 100% useless against vehicles and useful against infantry.

If a MLT AR is taking you out that fast, you're doing it wrong.

He went full Lueko; don't ever go full Lueko.

Imagine 4 of these....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COHnqYkKbf4&feature=youtu.be

I am pretty good and can drop people fast, but nowhere near as fast as that thing without stopping, nor cross the battlefield at that speed with my Imperial SCR or be that invulnerable with my 22.5m SP spend in my Proto dropsuit, Infantry role.

These guys don't even get the time to spawn properly or form any type of resistance, if i get 40+ kills, i had to work really hard for it, almost dying or dying at multiple occasions, this guy in the tank is just driving derp aim is all over the place, activating all modules when he engages but mows down people like a kid in a candy store.

Tanks need a reality check.

Imagine 4 of these....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COHnqYkKbf4&feature=youtu.be

I am pretty good and can drop people fast, but nowhere near as fast as that thing without stopping, nor cross the battlefield at that speed with my Imperial SCR or be that invulnerable with my 22.5m SP spend in my Proto dropsuit, Infantry role.

These guys don't even get the time to spawn properly or form any type of resistance, if i get 40+ kills, i had to work really hard for it, almost dying or dying at multiple occasions, this guy in the tank is just driving derp aim is all over the place, activating all modules when he engages but mows down people like a kid in a candy store.

Tanks need a reality check.

Imagine 4 of these....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COHnqYkKbf4&feature=youtu.be

I am pretty good and can drop people fast, but nowhere near as fast as that thing without stopping, nor cross the battlefield at that speed with my Imperial SCR or be that invulnerable with my 22.5m SP spend in my Proto dropsuit, Infantry role.

These guys don't even get the time to spawn properly or form any type of resistance, if i get 40+ kills, i had to work really hard for it, almost dying or dying at multiple occasions, this guy in the tank is just driving derp aim is all over the place, activating all modules when he engages but mows down people like a kid in a candy store.

Tanks need a reality check.

Let's see... not much AV, combined with competent infantry support to fight off those that do have AV. I don't see a problem here.

If a MLT AR is taking you out that fast, you're doing it wrong.