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Works fine for me mate.

Awesome! Here's another wp idea:
Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.

Awesome! Here's another wp idea:
Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.

I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.

*[+50 base +15 standard +15 adv +15 proto = +95 warpoints]
**[+50 base +(-15)ADV +(-15)Standard +(-15)militia = +5 warpoints]

the wording of the bonus wp for headshots is confusing.

Is that 60 additional wp...or just 10 on top of the 50 you get for the kill?

Apologies if this has been answered already in the 1.5 patch notes thread but:

If a teammate deployed from a dropship successfully hacks an enemy objective in the given minute, does the pilot gain the WP even if the hack finishes after the minute is up?

Eventual WPs for killing mercs hacking a point?

Everything sounds great, but in regards to transport points what if you use a mobile CRU on your dropship? You are still transporting them, so to speak, but they technically haven't travelled 100 m.

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So now squads will be getting 7-9 orbitals a game thats fun for everyone u need to raise the wp for orbitals asap

I disagree sir. I think we should have more orbitals in games. Orbitals can really change the course of battle. In a way (kind of) more easily attainable orbitals can level the playing field for a bunch of noobs and keep them interested in the game.

I'm hoping for more than just orbitals in the future though. Or at least different types of orbitals like time released bombs (scatter bombs) or orbitals that rain down plasma balls and they stay on fire for a certain amount of time.

While this could create some balance, the differences in tiers feels too extreme. I would only recommend a 5pt increase per level if anything.

Additionally, and this is a big point, WP based on suit disparity would highly encourage more players to choose the role of the sniper. Simply theorycrafting here, a high proficiency Std. Minmatar Assault can fit a Charge Sniper 2x Complex Dmg Mods, 1x Enh Dmg Mod, Complex CPU, and 1x X-3 Quantum Nanohive.

This highly economized suit can output over 450 dmg per shot from over 400 meters with 30 additional rounds to spare before resupply. Again these figures are calculated on a high SP character.

Still don't understand what warpoints are actually for.

Seems like a lot of trouble to see if we can drop orbital strikes or not.

A). It would have to be based on meta level disparity, not tier disparity. That's the only way to fix the issue Sir Jadek here brings up. The total meta level of the suit you run compared to the total meta level of your enemies suit would have to gauge your WP income per kill.

B). It would be a long and drawn out fight to see this implemented.

C). It's about time that the meta levels that the game lists go towards doing something as they have been in game this whole time and effect nothing directly.


For those of you who don't know, the meta level of your suit is the combined meta level of every item you equip plus the meta level of the suit itself. The meta level of individual modules/weapons/etc can be found by pressing triangle while an item is highlighted while viewing your market place, assets or fitting screen and looking in the tabs that are brought up.

As for SHOULD it be implemented? I wouldn't mind it, but I don't see it happening any time soon. It's been suggested LOOOONG ago (back in the pre-Codex days I believe) and it's not even an active discussion these days, but if you push it long enough it might just happen. It would certainly cut down on OB's unless all the good players suddenly all switch to militia gear, in which case they are giving up the advantage of superior gear. And I don't see the better players in our game sacrificing their precious K/D for that.

Of course this would also go a ways towards balancing tanks and their access to OB's as well since decent tank fits run high in meta level anyway. I wonder what a tankers reaction would be if their tanks became balanced but 90% of the people they killed only gave them 5-15 WP a piece.

Everything sounds great, but in regards to transport points what if you use a mobile CRU on your dropship? You are still transporting them, so to speak, but they technically haven't travelled 100 m.

will we be getting any WP for hacking enemy vehicles? if you hack an enemy tank, dropship, or LAV, you should get WP as well. say 50 WP... like hacking an installation. after all, the enemy does lose it.

Kill assists should be proportional to the percent of total HP damage dealt, not a flat number; should range from 1-49 WP. The more damage you did to an enemy with your assist, the more your helped your teammate get the kill, and rewards should be based on how helpful you were to your team. Right now doing 10% of damage to the total HP of the enemy is rewarded just as much as doing 90% of the damage to the enemy's total HP.

Headshots are their own reward; they get you a kill faster, extra WP are not needed. WP should be used to incentivize being helpful to the team, not for rewarding 1337 skills (which already get rewarded anyway since skills get you more kills). Headshot or not, a kill is just a kill, a headshot doesn't help your team in a way a regular kill couldn't (as far as I know).
This sets a precedent in which various different types of kills could give different amounts of WP, like melee kills getting more WP, or explosive kills getting less WP, etc. I don't like this, because no matter how you do it, a kill is still a kill.
Giving WP for saving a teammate makes sense because it rewards helping your team, but seriously you guys plan on adding extra WP for "revenge" kills? *sighs*

Other than that, good stuff. I would increase the dropship WP percentage, increase the time window to 2 minutes, or give a 15 base WP for the transport.

will we be getting any WP for hacking enemy vehicles? if you hack an enemy tank, dropship, or LAV, you should get WP as well. say 50 WP... like hacking an installation. after all, the enemy does lose it.

will we be getting any WP for hacking enemy vehicles? if you hack an enemy tank, dropship, or LAV, you should get WP as well. say 50 WP... like hacking an installation. after all, the enemy does lose it.

Kill assists should be proportional to the percent of total HP damage dealt, not a flat number; should range from 1-49 WP. The more damage you did to an enemy with your assist, the more your helped your teammate get the kill, and rewards should be based on how helpful you were to your team. Right now doing 10% of damage to the total HP of the enemy is rewarded just as much as doing 90% of the damage to the enemy's total HP.

Headshots are their own reward; they get you a kill faster, extra WP are not needed. WP should be used to incentivize being helpful to the team, not for rewarding 1337 skills (which already get rewarded anyway since skills get you more kills). Headshot or not, a kill is just a kill, a headshot doesn't help your team in a way a regular kill couldn't (as far as I know).
This sets a precedent in which various different types of kills could give different amounts of WP, like melee kills getting more WP, or explosive kills getting less WP, etc. I don't like this, because no matter how you do it, a kill is still a kill.
Giving WP for saving a teammate makes sense because it rewards helping your team, but seriously you guys plan on adding extra WP for "revenge" kills? *sighs*

Other than that, good stuff. I would increase the dropship WP percentage, increase the time window to 2 minutes, or give a 15 base WP for the transport.