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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:27:00 -
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Everyone likes War Points. But there have been a number of important actions in DUST 514 that haven't granted war points. But not anymore! Read on find out what new ways you have to get rewarded with Uprising 1.5.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1496
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:31:00 -
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Awesome
links broke |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
332
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:34:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Awesome
links broke
Works fine for me mate. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1496
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:35:00 -
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Spademan wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Awesome
links broke Works fine for me mate.
it's good now. :) I got here the second it was posted |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1851
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:43:00 -
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sounds good..
what are the values after squad order is applied. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
257
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:44:00 -
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Awesome stuff, CCP. The headshot noise was almost reward enough, but that extra WP will be a nice piece of flair as well! |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
732
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:51:00 -
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Awesome! Here's another wp idea:
Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.
*[+50 base +15 standard +15 adv +15 proto = +95 warpoints]
**[+50 base +(-15)ADV +(-15)Standard +(-15)militia = +5 warpoints] |
S Park Finner
DUST University
Ivy League
310
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:55:00 -
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Many thanks. Good work!
A question: has the hack speed for counter-hacking null cannons increased? If I'm not mistaken it was taking a lot longer to counter hack than to hack.
If the speed is the same slow speed it was, is the 75 WP for a counter-hack enough given the longer time a player is exposed at the terminal? I can see 75 WP for undoing something that was only partially done. But if it takes a lot longer to counter-hack I'd expect a commensurate reward. Would you talk about your thinking for setting it to 75 WP? |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
257
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:59:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Awesome! Here's another wp idea:
Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
This is a really solid idea... I think this needs to be implemented ASAP.
Also, stopping killstreaks would be cool. +5 WP for each kill the guy had since he last died.
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Musta Tornius
Cannonfodder PMC
620
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:59:00 -
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Solid changes, good job on not making wp farming easier. |
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Jadek Menaheim
warravens
League of Infamy
124
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Posted - 2013.10.04 21:14:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Awesome! Here's another wp idea:
Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.
*[+50 base +15 standard +15 adv +15 proto = +95 warpoints]
**[+50 base +(-15)ADV +(-15)Standard +(-15)militia = +5 warpoints]
While this could create some balance, the differences in tiers feels too extreme. I would only recommend a 5pt increase per level if anything.
Additionally, and this is a big point, WP based on suit disparity would highly encourage more players to choose the role of the sniper. Simply theorycrafting here, a high proficiency Std. Minmatar Assault can fit a Charge Sniper 2x Complex Dmg Mods, 1x Enh Dmg Mod, Complex CPU, and 1x X-3 Quantum Nanohive.
This highly economized suit can output over 450 dmg per shot from over 400 meters with 30 additional rounds to spare before resupply. Again these figures are calculated on a high SP character. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1389
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Posted - 2013.10.04 21:19:00 -
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Apologies if this has been answered already in the 1.5 patch notes thread but:
If a teammate deployed from a dropship successfully hacks an enemy objective in the given minute, does the pilot gain the WP even if the hack finishes after the minute is up? |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
500
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Posted - 2013.10.04 21:21:00 -
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Awesome! Great to see us being rewarded for doing the things we normally do! |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
404
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Posted - 2013.10.04 21:43:00 -
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These are well-balanced and make sense to me. Nice work CCP. I would add that pilots/drivers should get rewards from CRU spawns the same way uplinks are rewarded. I'd also like to see WPs awarded based on the amount of damage you do when multiple friendlies kill something (e.g. If I do 75% of the damage and a team mate finishes them off, then I get 75% of the WP, they get 25% and credit for the kill). This isn't urgent, but I think it would make people less concerned with kill stealing. You guys have a ton on your plate, so these changes cover most of the glaring holes. Well-done. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1020
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:15:00 -
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Good job, CCP peeps. I like how these WP rewards follow the natural gameplay of mercs who focus on contributing to their team. They seem well balanced with the combat rewards and it's great to see those hard-working pilots get a little WP love. Lord knows they've earned it. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2564
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:21:00 -
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Everything sounds great, but in regards to transport points what if you use a mobile CRU on your dropship? You are still transporting them, so to speak, but they technically haven't travelled 100 m. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6412
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:37:00 -
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Assists should be proportional to the percent of total HP damage dealt, not a flat number.
Headshots are their own reward; they get you a kill faster, extra WP are not needed. WP should be used to incentivize being helpful to the team, not for rewarding 1337 skills (which already get rewarded anyway since skills get you more kills). |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
189
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:56:00 -
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the wording of the bonus wp for headshots is confusing.
Is that 60 additional wp...or just 10 on top of the 50 you get for the kill? |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
2642
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:57:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:the wording of the bonus wp for headshots is confusing.
Is that 60 additional wp...or just 10 on top of the 50 you get for the kill?
10 on top for 60 total.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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Musta Tornius
Cannonfodder PMC
620
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:58:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Apologies if this has been answered already in the 1.5 patch notes thread but:
If a teammate deployed from a dropship successfully hacks an enemy objective in the given minute, does the pilot gain the WP even if the hack finishes after the minute is up?
Logibro said he thinks that the pilot wouldn't get WP in this case but he'd have a look into it as obviously it would be rather annoying. |
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Slen Kaleth
BlackWater Liquidations
47
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:11:00 -
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Eventual WPs for killing mercs hacking a point?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6412
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:18:00 -
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Slen Kaleth wrote:Eventual WPs for killing mercs hacking a point?
This makes a lot of sense. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
148
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Posted - 2013.10.05 00:25:00 -
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How about Vehicle CRU spawns? how about getting points for being a mobile spawn point, we should be rewarded for being a tactical and support spawn point. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1390
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Posted - 2013.10.05 00:44:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Everything sounds great, but in regards to transport points what if you use a mobile CRU on your dropship? You are still transporting them, so to speak, but they technically haven't travelled 100 m.
This is a good question too. |
Heavenly Daughter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2013.10.05 00:52:00 -
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@CCP Logibro
In the Intel rewards it mentions this "Intel Assist rewards will still be received up to 10 seconds after a scan has ended"
Does this mean when the "targets scanned" has finished or the equipped scanner has finished as these times are very different.
Tactical timing is an issue here.
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fawkuima juggalo
Hollowed Kings
67
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Posted - 2013.10.05 01:02:00 -
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nice theyll be adjusted because there to little but i LOVE IT thanx guys +1 |
Daigon VII
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.10.05 01:27:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Everyone likes War Points. But there have been a number of important actions in DUST 514 that haven't granted war points. But not anymore! Read on find out what new ways you have to get rewarded with Uprising 1.5.
I think you guys should go nuts on war points and lower their value. Make them for everything, running over people, jumping from tall buildings or dropping out of a drop ship and into battle, etc., etc.
It's fun to see scores soar even if they are meaningless to some extent. |
ryo sayo mio
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.10.05 01:50:00 -
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So now squads will be getting 7-9 orbitals a game thats fun for everyone u need to raise the wp for orbitals asap |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
73
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Posted - 2013.10.05 02:35:00 -
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ryo sayo mio wrote:So now squads will be getting 7-9 orbitals a game thats fun for everyone u need to raise the wp for orbitals asap
I disagree sir. I think we should have more orbitals in games. Orbitals can really change the course of battle. In a way (kind of) more easily attainable orbitals can level the playing field for a bunch of noobs and keep them interested in the game.
I'm hoping for more than just orbitals in the future though. Or at least different types of orbitals like time released bombs (scatter bombs) or orbitals that rain down plasma balls and they stay on fire for a certain amount of time. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3265
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:43:00 -
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Maffia- Thug wrote:ryo sayo mio wrote:So now squads will be getting 7-9 orbitals a game thats fun for everyone u need to raise the wp for orbitals asap I disagree sir. I think we should have more orbitals in games. Orbitals can really change the course of battle. In a way (kind of) more easily attainable orbitals can level the playing field for a bunch of noobs and keep them interested in the game. I'm hoping for more than just orbitals in the future though. Or at least different types of orbitals like time released bombs (scatter bombs) or orbitals that rain down plasma balls and they stay on fire for a certain amount of time.
I can only imagine this is paving way for a new method of gaining orbitals because as it currently stands, the method of obtaining them is sort of Call of Duty Killstreak like. The winning team usually has more War Points and thereby gets something to help them keep winning, whereas the losing team could benefit from it more.
Considering True Grit was talking about revamping orbitals so that they were only available in High-Sec, with Faction Warfare and PC requiring Eve Support.. I kinda like this. Just means that whoever thought to bring friends is going to get the bone, rather than whoever is winning at the time. |
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