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Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 291	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:19:00 - [1] - Quote We have less speed, health, stamina, no sidearm besides the class I use (huehuehue), and tons of other stuff I forgot to list. What the hell do you want from us!
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 757	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:22:00 - [2] - Quote Because it upsets people that helping people is more valued than killing people
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 97	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:23:00 - [3] - Quote i could care less about a logi nerf. i just want us scouts to be shown some love.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 330	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:25:00 - [4] - Quote What Biscuit said, Logi's seem to be in a fairly good place right now, us Scouts need some hugs though. Heavies could do with some handshakes too.
Magnus Amadeuss DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:26:00 - [5] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: We have less speed, health, stamina, no sidearm besides the class I use (huehuehue), and tons of other stuff I forgot to list. What the hell do you want from us! This is coming from someone thats has a good chunk of his sp into logis; The logis simply have to many slots. The high and low powered slots on suits do not necessarily add to the logistics role of the suits but rather allow them to be jack of all trades suits. The problem with this is it can be a little too good at way too many roles, while it is supposed to be a logistics suit. I would not bat an eye if CCP decided to bump up the HP a little and remove 2-3 slots from my logi suit (just not equipment slots.)
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 519	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote It's all because of the completely OP callogi, I am an amarr logi, I armour tank. I was in a match in proto gear, had 670 armour and 230 shield. Got killed by a cal logi with 600 armour and 500 shields.....WTH is goin on?????
ShinyJay Overdue Destruction 107	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote the way i see it, the logis should be sacrificing H/L slots for the excessive equipments they have. healers in any game shouldn't have better HP then the front line attackers. that is just my take on it though. I just want to see my scout suit get some love. until then, i will suffer along with it and do the best i can do
Cosgar ParagonX 5628	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:37:00 - [8] - Quote People get butthurt over any and all things that appear to display an advantage over what they have. The Caldari logi suit was stupid OP thanks to shield/armor imbalance, their ridiculously high CPU/PG, the original racial bonus and the crazy slot layout at prototype. Most of the community went on a witch hunt against all logistics suits despite the Minmatar being perfectly balanced and the Amarr needing a major buff at the time while one suit was the source of the issue. A lot of this subsided after the Caldari nerf, but every once and a while we still get the occasional uninformed player on here lamenting some crazy idea to limit us to sidearms or something just as outlandish, despite posting anything thing to support their claim. To be honest, we have more things to worry about in this game than someone that can't kill a yellow suit that moves slower and doesn't have a sidearm...
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 292	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:49:00 - [9] - Quote Honestly all you need to kill them is a Scrambler Pistol but whetever. I need the 300 shields because I run out and revive in open fire like a maniac :p also I like healing people in combat because I don't wanna lose my suits. Assault can get more health besides a Callogi which are really slow if they have 600 armor. Scrambler Pistol and SMG is it's weakness.
Chances Ghost ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings 1130	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:55:00 - [10] - Quote go ahead, limit me to sidearms.... my primary is remote explosives anyways

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 1092	Posted - 2013.10.04 20:00:00 - [11] - Quote I think people just don't like being killed by them. I can somewhat understand, but they are gonna be able to kill you as long as they hold a weapon. Maybe make it so dmg mods draw more CPU/PG From Logi suits since they weren't designed to be killing machines(just figuring out a in-game reason) Or make the stacking penalty higher.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation 38	Posted - 2013.10.04 21:51:00 - [12] - Quote Less health? lolno.
RedZer0 MK1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 63	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:09:00 - [13] - Quote Take away the 10% weapon damage buff from everything. Give assault's a 1% damage buff per level as a class bonus, give Logi's the 5% reduction per level for equipment. Raise Logi base HP and reduce CPU/PG and high and low slots accordingly.
Michael Epic Universal Militia Contractings 7	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:12:00 - [14] - Quote Its very simple....I can actually give you a legit, valid reason they want to NERF the logi class. You kill them. That's it. They are bitches and they are pussies and they can't handle that you killed them. We carry remote explosives, which I promise you are a thorn in their paw. We carry droplinks, nanite injectors, nanohives and have a ton of slots for PG/CPU, armor plates, shield extenders, regulators and damage modifiers. We are tough, moderately quick but sneaky as hell....you kill us, we go down...we tappy tap our remote explosives button and you've killed us but we've killed you too. They can't handle it. They don't like competition. They have zero life, tons of insecurities and only feel validated when they take us out with their laser rifle or mass drivers. Logistics is a fun class that requires a ton of skill to use properly. I like that challenge...sometimes I make genius moves and own your ass. Sometimes I make bonehead moves and get owned. Its fun....so yeah But we kill them. They don't like that. So they want to do away with us.
Sgt Buttscratch SLAPHAPPY BANDITS 874	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:31:00 - [15] - Quote I don't want them nerfed, I would like to see the "L" be changed to an "S"
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1800	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:42:00 - [16] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: go ahead, limit me to sidearms.... my primary is remote explosives anyways keep up the fight my brother
Jakar Umbra Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 290	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:50:00 - [17] - Quote BECAUSE FPS GAME MEANS YOU MUST SHOOT TEH PPLZ NOT SUPPORT!! No seriously, people are just butthurt. Logi doesn't need a nerf, assaults need a slight buff is all. I'm curious though as to how many Logi's use their slots for things other than armor plates and shield extenders. For example most of my fits actually use codebreakers.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1068	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:51:00 - [18] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: We have less speed, health, stamina, no sidearm besides the class I use (huehuehue), and tons of other stuff I forgot to list. What the hell do you want from us! This is coming from someone thats has a good chunk of his sp into logis; The logis simply have to many slots. The high and low powered slots on suits do not necessarily add to the logistics role of the suits but rather allow them to be jack of all trades suits. The problem with this is it can be a little too good at way too many roles, while it is supposed to be a logistics suit. I would not bat an eye if CCP decided to bump up the HP a little and remove 2-3 slots from my logi suit (just not equipment slots.) Not slots, too much damage. Without damage, you can't be a assault, or heavy. Give Logi's a damage nerf, and then buff their equipment power (maybe not RE's and proxy's).
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 623	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:51:00 - [19] - Quote that's true. but the logistics class get's a free mod in the form of an armour repper even if one's not equipped. that being the case, the assault suits need a better slot layout to compensate, or they're just not quite as good. i'd say the same is true for the scouts.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1068	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:53:00 - [20] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I think people just don't like being killed by them. I can somewhat understand, but they are gonna be able to kill you as long as they hold a weapon. Maybe make it so dmg mods draw more CPU/PG From Logi suits since they weren't designed to be killing machines(just figuring out a in-game reason) Or make the stacking penalty higher. There's a much easier way to do this. Give it a damage nerf for everything, and then boost equipment power. Say that your diverting power from weapon power into the equipment, making them more efficient.

low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 624	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:55:00 - [21] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I think people just don't like being killed by them. I can somewhat understand, but they are gonna be able to kill you as long as they hold a weapon. Maybe make it so dmg mods draw more CPU/PG From Logi suits since they weren't designed to be killing machines(just figuring out a in-game reason) Or make the stacking penalty higher. There's a much easier way to do this. Give it a damage nerf for everything, and then boost equipment power. Say that your diverting power from weapon power into the equipment, making them more efficient. i'd agree with that in spirit. a 10 or 20 percent decrease in light weapon damage with a 50 or 80% increase in equipment efficacy.
Jakar Umbra Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 290	Posted - 2013.10.04 23:02:00 - [22] - Quote low genius wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I think people just don't like being killed by them. I can somewhat understand, but they are gonna be able to kill you as long as they hold a weapon. Maybe make it so dmg mods draw more CPU/PG From Logi suits since they weren't designed to be killing machines(just figuring out a in-game reason) Or make the stacking penalty higher. There's a much easier way to do this. Give it a damage nerf for everything, and then boost equipment power. Say that your diverting power from weapon power into the equipment, making them more efficient. i'd agree with that in spirit. a 10 or 20 percent decrease in light weapon damage with a 50 or 80% increase in equipment efficacy. I can agree with this I suppose or just make the assault class bonus a slight damage buff, which makes more sense than the shield whatever bonus that is kind of useless to everyone except Caldari Assault suits. I would probably more agree with changing the assault suit skill to damage for light weapons. (1% per level, don't want to make swarms even more ridiculous.)
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 271	Posted - 2013.10.04 23:14:00 - [23] - Quote Jakar Umbra wrote: BECAUSE FPS GAME MEANS YOU MUST SHOOT TEH PPLZ NOT SUPPORT!! No seriously, people are just butthurt. Logi doesn't need a nerf, assaults need a slight buff is all. I'm curious though as to how many Logi's use their slots for things other than armor plates and shield extenders. For example most of my fits actually use codebreakers. Do damage mods count? I would use codebreakers if they were a high slot thing, but my lows are eaten up by plates and reppers.
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1064	Posted - 2013.10.04 23:56:00 - [24] - Quote Normalize hi and low slots between logi and salt. The logi lose a small bit of hp, and sidearm for support capabilities. Salts have less support capabilities, but a sidearm, and a small bump in HP over logis
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 842	Posted - 2013.10.04 23:58:00 - [25] - Quote Fear.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9193	Posted - 2013.10.05 00:00:00 - [26] - Quote I think all other classes needs to be buffed so that logic can't overlap their roles anymore.
Jacques Cayton II Caldari Protectorate United 31	Posted - 2013.10.05 00:52:00 - [27] - Quote Spademan wrote: What Biscuit said, Logi's seem to be in a fairly good place right now, us Scouts need some hugs though. Heavies could do with some handshakes too. U brung a tear to my eye thank you for acknowledging us heavies now get over here you got a big bear hug coming your way.
RED FARM Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 2	Posted - 2013.10.05 01:02:00 - [28] - Quote Logis are quite slow and as you armor them up they become even slower. Just go with a heavy and a speed up enhancer. Logi has to carry 1-2 nanohives due to low ammo capacity. This is if you are trying to go slow Rambo clone with them. All in all everything is fairly even.
RA Drahcir Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 258	Posted - 2013.10.05 01:16:00 - [29] - Quote People exploit Logis strengths to do what they are not intended to do. LOL at people thinking assaults need a buff. GTFO. Take damage mods away from Logis. Plenty "Logis" say they do not carry ammo, reps or uplinks!! Well what the hell kind of logistical support are you doing? If you want to tank HP and kill bodies, then go heavy and avoid ruining the Logi role.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. 46	Posted - 2013.10.05 01:24:00 - [30] - Quote These threads are funny lol. I think people forget how much of an advantage having a sidearm is. The only thing I would say is assaults need slightly more cpu/pg, no changes in slot layout or pigeon holing people into one playstyle. Most blues are so worthless if I didn't have the ability to slay as well as rep we'd be ****** in the ass lol.



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