I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG?

Dual SMG scout in cities can be devastating.

Dual SMG scout in cities can be devastating.

amarian logi is better for smg and of the min class i would say the assault is better with the smg than the scout or logi as it comes with that extra ammo trait..duel wielding any close end weapon is pretty stupid as you are limiting your suits response abilities to close range only doesnt matter if you use a breach when most other proto smg user will engage you at range first..with a range type weapon a scout witha ar/smg will beat a smg/smg scout anyday unless they are terribad at fps

Anything a scout can do, assault can do it with more HP. I usually turn up the sensitivity on the DS3 to enhance CQC maneuverable, and strafe aim + spray... Proficiency 4 and Sharpshooter 4 are enough to compete at medium range.

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I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG?

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Amarr heavy frame ak.0
2x Complex damage mods
2x Calas SMG
Proto grenade of choice
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Logi with a core focused.

You now own the close spaces.

Get those both to 5 and you'll be like several in our corp that run dual SMG's or even Shotgun SMG which completely makes up for the AR as a replacement.

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My boy, SMGs are my babies. Put me in front of a boundlesss HMG, a Duvolle or anything (Except a freedom mass driver) and I will kill you. Easily. My skills in it aren't even that high, but I'm good with them. Sure if the Boundless has 1500 HP behind it, it takes more doing than just a straight up gun fight. The HP determines how easy it is to kill someone, as well as their skill.

The question of 'is this gun better than this one' is not valid, the player behind the gun counts. Sure, a Boundless HMG statistically should be able to out-kill a proto pistol but I've seen people wipe the field clean with just a pistol, knives, plasma cannon, whatever!

YOU determine how effective your weapon is, not the stats. Among all the QQ about something being OP or UP every weapon can still kill, you just have to learn how to use it.

I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG?

Course not, a weapon can never replace another. It is always different in every way.

Anything a scout can do, assault can do it with more HP. I usually turn up the sensitivity on the DS3 to enhance CQC maneuverable, and strafe aim + spray... Proficiency 4 and Sharpshooter 4 are enough to compete at medium range.

Late to respond and you are right on point.

I have had success with alternating the breach to Ishukone it is situational.

The breach hits good at range and the ishukone is the finisher. I "pull" ppl with the breach.

I run Ish Assault primary but switch in open areas to breach. It just works for me.

Not exactly true - an Assault can't do the sneaky sneaky that a Scout excels at.

i can see how it would work vs scrubs i had my dragon fly fitted that way once.

but how well would that breach hold up against a skilled ar with a user that understands ranges.. for example gallente assault...using the high powers for dmg mods would a duvoulle/smg with 1 light weapon dmg mod 1 sidearm dmg mod armor tanked vs assault smg/breach smg with 2 sidearm dmg mods. i wish i had the time to do the math and really compare this but 2 years of doing crap like this in dust has left me tired yawns. but anywho like ur breach smg idea i suppose if you only have the smg maxed that would be an awesome way of compensating. smg is and always will be my fav sidearm ...really curious about the dmgmod gallente build comparison though..

mmmm no not sneaky buta min assault can run up in your face quick and benefit from that nasty ammo trait. and not be a 1 hit kill for every kind of splash damage in dust

I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG?

I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG?

YES!

the dual Ishukone SMG is amazing and I run it on a minmatar scout.

You can dual them with proto and enough CPU / PG upgrades.

You want a speed fit even though now viability of scout speed fits is questionable. I have seen some successful scouts running Dual Ishukones.

You can run a decent fit with m1 scout + Ish main and a breach SMG offhand. The Breach helps with ranged engagements

really fun fit.