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Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 342	Posted - 2013.10.04 10:45:00 - [1] - Quote within its optimum range yes but you still want some other weapon as your main..the smg can only be used asa main ona close end map and it is still best to have some weapon to compensate.. within its optimum range the smg is a beast especially skilled up
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 342	Posted - 2013.10.04 10:48:00 - [2] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: YES! the dual Ishukone SMG is amazing and I run it on a minmatar scout. You can dual them with proto and enough CPU / PG upgrades. You want a speed fit even though now viability of scout speed fits is questionable. I have seen some successful scouts running Dual Ishukones. You can run a decent fit with m1 scout + Ish main and a breach SMG offhand. The Breach helps with ranged engagements really fun fit. amarian logi is better for smg and of the min class i would say the assault is better with the smg than the scout or logi as it comes with that extra ammo trait..duel wielding any close end weapon is pretty stupid as you are limiting your suits response abilities to close range only doesnt matter if you use a breach when most other proto smg user will engage you at range first..with a range type weapon a scout witha ar/smg will beat a smg/smg scout anyday unless they are terribad at fps
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 342	Posted - 2013.10.04 10:49:00 - [3] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Real (Wo)men run it on a Logi Suit. ouch hate to agree with stb but yeah
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 344	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:29:00 - [4] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: YES! the dual Ishukone SMG is amazing and I run it on a minmatar scout. You can dual them with proto and enough CPU / PG upgrades. You want a speed fit even though now viability of scout speed fits is questionable. I have seen some successful scouts running Dual Ishukones. You can run a decent fit with m1 scout + Ish main and a breach SMG offhand. The Breach helps with ranged engagements really fun fit. amarian logi is better for smg and of the min class i would say the assault is better with the smg than the scout or logi as it comes with that extra ammo trait..duel wielding any close end weapon is pretty stupid as you are limiting your suits response abilities to close range only doesnt matter if you use a breach when most other proto smg user will engage you at range first..with a range type weapon a scout witha ar/smg will beat a smg/smg scout anyday unless they are terribad at fps Late to respond and you are right on point. I have had success with alternating the breach to Ishukone it is situational. The breach hits good at range and the ishukone is the finisher. I "pull" ppl with the breach. I run Ish Assault primary but switch in open areas to breach. It just works for me. i can see how it would work vs scrubs i had my dragon fly fitted that way once. but how well would that breach hold up against a skilled ar with a user that understands ranges.. for example gallente assault...using the high powers for dmg mods would a duvoulle/smg with 1 light weapon dmg mod 1 sidearm dmg mod armor tanked vs assault smg/breach smg with 2 sidearm dmg mods. i wish i had the time to do the math and really compare this but 2 years of doing crap like this in dust has left me tired yawns. but anywho like ur breach smg idea i suppose if you only have the smg maxed that would be an awesome way of compensating. smg is and always will be my fav sidearm ...really curious about the dmgmod gallente build comparison though..
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 344	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:32:00 - [5] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Luk Manag wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I have a question. If you have SMG prof 4, and sharpshooter 4, and using the assault ishikune version, can it be a good AR replacement for short to mid range combat to conserve CPU/PG? Dual SMG scout in cities can be devastating. Anything a scout can do, assault can do it with more HP. I usually turn up the sensitivity on the DS3 to enhance CQC maneuverable, and strafe aim + spray... Proficiency 4 and Sharpshooter 4 are enough to compete at medium range. Not exactly true - an Assault can't do the sneaky sneaky that a Scout excels at. mmmm no not sneaky buta min assault can run up in your face quick and benefit from that nasty ammo trait. and not be a 1 hit kill for every kind of splash damage in dust

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