Please add one low slot to the standard. Those gallente scum get three low slots on their militia frame. While we get one on our standard. I can't armor tank on one low!

MLT 1/1
STD 2/2
ADV 2/3
PRO 3/3 (OR 3/4 >:[ )

Do it CCP. #Nike514

Caldari already have 2/2 at std. If they change it, it will more than likely be 1/2 at std. for Amarr.

I support this threads and all similar buff Amarr assault dropsuit threads.

Please add one low slot to the standard. Those gallente scum get three low slots on their militia frame. While we get one on our standard. I can't armor tank on one low!

MLT 1/1
STD 2/2
ADV 2/3
PRO 3/3 (OR 3/4 >:[ )

Do it CCP. #Nike514

I sincerely hate the person who decided Amarr should be dual tankers in Dust. If you're going to make us the slowest, then give us the most armor. From the base values it would be nice if say they took away half the shields and put it in armor, so 90 shield 270 armor base value. If they did that then I could live with the gimped module slots.

Have you looked into Amarr story? They have the Khanid bloodlines in Amarr... And they are shield/missile based ship's...

Amarr are one of the true dual tankers in EVE right now... that's just story and how it is in the EVE universe...

Armor tanking Amarr is an ancient appearance compared to what the Amarrian's are now.... They kinda do everything from drone specialties, to shield to armor.... from lasers to missiles...

Please add one low slot to the standard. Those gallente scum get three low slots on their militia frame. While we get one on our standard. I can't armor tank on one low!

MLT 1/1
STD 2/2
ADV 2/3
PRO 3/3 (OR 3/4 >:[ )

Do it CCP. #Nike514

The only Khanid ship you'd ever seriously shield tank is the Curse, and that's because it's a EWAR ship and all EWAR ships have plenty of mids (the shield tanking slot in EVE).

I have been able to shield tank a few Amarr ships, like the Omen and the Arbitrator (again, EWAR), but no, they are not "one of true dual tankers in EVE." Sure, you can shoehorn any sort of tank onto any hull, but that doesn't mean it'll be effective or the best choice.

TL;DR : Khanid are Armor/Missile and the Amarr are overwhelmingly armor focused, save a couple of hulls. All of their tank bonuses are armor, be it damage resistance, armor rep amount, or buffer.

I sincerely hate the person who decided Amarr should be dual tankers in Dust. If you're going to make us the slowest, then give us the most armor. From the base values it would be nice if say they took away half the shields and put it in armor, so 90 shield 270 armor base value. If they did that then I could live with the gimped module slots.

I understand from lore but its a nice buffer against grenade spammers and noob drivers

But its not in keeping with the Amarrian values.

How bout this, the Basic Amarr Medium frames can have the 180 and 180, while the Assault have a crapload more armor but less shields.

How bout this, the Basic Amarr Medium frames can have the 180 and 180, while the Assault have a crapload more armor but less shields.

But its not in keeping with the Amarrian values.

It is. I also felt it weird at first but the more I played the more it made sense. The Amarr assault suit is perfect as it is now. Amarr doctrine is about staying power, about presence and massive firepower, not about mobility or versatility. All this perfectly translate to the suit as it is now. No, having more armor than shields wont help you stay in the fight more because once your armor is damaged you are crippled. A balance between armor and shield, on the other hand, allows you to witstamd damage over time as well as provide buffer for critical situations. Those high slots are besy suited for damage mods, which our fittimgs stats allow, making for a deadly combatant. Add to it scramblers or LRs and thats what Amarr is about.

The gallenteans were always masters of the Armor, but we are masters of resilience and our suits withstand more punishment than theirs.

If you want more slots and the versatility it brings just switch races. If you want armor focused suits, the Gallente suits are there. Makimg the Amarr suits a copy of the Gallente ones is a bad move imo, I love them as they are, if you domt your desired option already exists. Go, and let the True Chosen be.

Please add one low slot to the standard. Those gallente scum get three low slots on their militia frame. While we get one on our standard. I can't armor tank on one low!

MLT 1/1
STD 2/2
ADV 2/3
PRO 3/3 (OR 3/4 >:[ )

Do it CCP. #Nike514

Think you should stick with the Heavy ^_- you're really good with it.

Or more built in armor on the suit, like Amarr should typically have, right?

Or a high armor bonus or resist.


I guess right now it looks like Gal are better armor tankers with 3 slots. Especially if you wanna run a rep

Oh, hi there Adamance. Switching isnt an option indeed, didnt notice that of all persons I was talking to you.

Yeah, it is weird, I know. I also learned to love armor tanking my ships in EVE, but in DUST dual tanking gives better results than pure armor from what I can tell so Im not complaining. It would also make us too similar to the gallente suits, I preffer the current model, but I know from where you are coming from.

Keep as is, but give all assault suits a tank effectivness perk

Amarr:
+2% Armour Plate Module Efficacy
+2% Sheild Extender Module Efficacy

Caldari:
+2% Sheild Extender Module Efficacy

Gallante:
+2% Armour Plate Module Efficacy

Minmatar:
+1% Armour Plate Module Efficacy
+1% Sheild Extender Efficacy

This will make amarr the best dual tanks!

High slots are better served with CDMs, that bonus to shield extenders is out of place specially when you consider we could only fit one or two below prototype level. Bonus to armor plates is a bit less effective because of the low slots count too.

Overall, although dubbed dual tankers I tend to rely more in the armor. Shield is just a slightly bigger than normal buffer with no modules dedicated to it and armor tends to end up with almost double or more than the shield value and all available slots.

Lol I don't mind the dual tanking... I just don't think it "feels" Amarr you know what I mean... its good don't get me wrong, though the slots are a little screwy if you ask me.

Think this way: in the end the shield is just slightly better than normal, only worse than Caldari shields, while the armor is slightly worse than Gallenteans ones, which kind of makes sense lore wise. When fitted, if you use damage enhancers the natural complement is armor modules, which results in the Amarr ideal of lots of damage and armor. True there is more shield than normal, but it doesnt even compare in performance to that of a Caldari suit, plus it makes sense for our shields to be more sophisticated than that of the Minmatar for example. At least untill they fit dedicated shield modules, which they do, and make sense.

As for the slots... Its also pretty amarrish if you ask me. Tough, inflexible, in all ways, just like the Maller. Well, that is how I go about it at least. Think about it.

Lol I don't mind the dual tanking... I just don't think it "feels" Amarr you know what I mean... its good don't get me wrong, though the slots are a little screwy if you ask me.

Maller? Dude the Omen with 477DPS is a monster that eats other cruisers alive.

Few ships embody the principles of Amarr starship design so well as the Maller. To describe it in a single word, the Maller is simply inflexible - in both senses. This is a ship which offers a great deal of raw, unbending strength, but lacks the nuance and adaptability characterized by the cruisers of other races.

Omen is indeed a pretty decent cruiser, but I always liked the Arbitrator more. I mentioned the Maller because this discussion made me remind this, relevant quote below:

Uff again the slots are less because NO ONLY we have more Stamina than other races variants , but we have the higher HP values, good overall stats (That are important while using PASSIVE skills), and more CPU - PG than other variants of other races , avoiding the use of CPU-PG enhancers.

I mean ATM i have a Amarr Logi ive been testing. Level 3. It has 362 Shields 423 Armor (total 785 HP), Active scanner,basic Nanite inj,nanohives,GEK,Toxin SMG,Locus Grenades all for the price of 40k LOL. Id like to see other ADV sutis reach almost 800 EHP while not sacrificing a single slot for it...(Other stats:SPrnt Speed 6.4/Stamina:147/Shield recharge rate 17ps/Armor repair rate 6.97 (i only have 1 basic armor rep equipped...))

I mean, people, please ,why are you trying to break the Amarr suit. If you want to substract 20-30 Shield value for 20-30 armor value i can live with that, but besides taht , we dont need no slots, etc....
Logi 100 shields 200 Armor
Assault 150 SH 210 Armor
Heavy 305 Shields 505 Armor

But thats it