I like everything but the larger playlists, 16 v 16 generally just turns into zerg the enemy as it is. Personally I would love an 8 man lonewolves type playlist or something similar to odd ball or CTF.

However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. ... it's just not physically possible! :P

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

I'm sure everyone at CCP knows just as well as we all do that this game is dying. And it's dying fast.

And this is already where you're wrong.

I created a thread about this topic:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1331807#post1331807

I also wrote in this thread that GTAV actually didn't cost Dust 514 any players at all. Stick to the numbers before writing assumptions. Everything is available at eve-offline.net

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

Good list. Want all of it.

**** timeframe. Give us full line ups of rifles, I can entertain myself in these maps.

Fix core mechanics. I.E, rework aiming again, fix HD even more.

Give us a legit reason to fight in PC.

I'd be fine to wait a bit for more content from there.

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

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We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. -- snip --

Good list. Want all of it.

**** timeframe. Give us full line ups of rifles, I can entertain myself in these maps.

Fix core mechanics. I.E, rework aiming again, fix HD even more.

Give us a legit reason to fight in PC.

I'd be fine to wait a bit for more content from there.

Give us RESPECS in the meanwhile so we can entretain ourselves making all kind of ridiculous loadouts...

:3

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

Most of the OP seems to already being worked on.

They definitely need new game modes. An easy one would be a take on the classic push/pull domination where you are fighting to secure a highway, power lines, etc... How about rescue/abduction?

But I can't see them allowing player trading until you have to make your gear from minerals. Someone with a dropsuit bpo can just make countless items and trade them to everybody they see. Even if it is took just 1-2 of each EVE mineral, a market value would be applied and just giving away everything for free would be costly.

This.
Regardless, the self-entitled whiners will keep demanding all of it and more.

Thanks for responding, Mintchip. You didn't need to touch a thread like this, but you tried anyway.

EVE wasn't built in a day, OP.

No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't.

Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time.

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

Give us RESPECS in the meanwhile so we can entretain ourselves making all kind of ridiculous loadouts...

:3

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1:

- Single shard economy
- Player driven economy
- Hard Sci-Fi theme
- Significantly customizable ships
- Vast space
- Skill based rather than level based progression
- Time based and offline skilling


All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them.

Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline

Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1:

- Single shard economy
- Player driven economy
- Hard Sci-Fi theme
- Significantly customizable ships
- Vast space
- Skill based rather than level based progression
- Time based and offline skilling


All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them.

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

No, its just that there's less exploits and crutches so the people who played like that have left, they are fotm from their play style to their mentality toward games.

Still rocking Doom 95 and unreal tournament goty edition circa 1996 here to name a few

This post... so... much... nonsense...

This post... so... much... nonsense...

Wrong there are loads of MMOs just like eve that are older but not sci fi, the economies were not player driven but you had trades and the market to sell and manipulate prices.

Let's hear about them then. From my time with MMOs back then, I can tell you that each thing I listed was a differentiator for Eve. This is what Dust needs, but doesn't have - any real differentiators.

Incidentally, your UO quote is simply an exploit, not a game feature. Try again please.

The fact remains, even though Eve had very little content on launch, like Dust, Eve was unique and players responded to that uniqueness with loyalty. Dust isn't unique and players are responding to that by leaving.

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P

Let's hear about them then. From my time with MMOs back then, I can tell you that each thing I listed was a differentiator for Eve. This is what Dust needs, but doesn't have - any real differentiators.

Incidentally, your UO quote is simply an exploit, not a game feature. Try again please.

The fact remains, even though Eve had very little content on launch, like Dust, Eve was unique and players responded to that uniqueness with loyalty. Dust isn't unique and players are responding to that by leaving.

No game is truly unique, do I really have to explain how so? I'll make it real easy for you, an fps is an fps regardless, an mmo is an mmo regardless, a beat em up is a beat em up regardless, mortal kombat and street fighter are very different how the combos and specials work but they are both the same, so how exactly is dust supposed to be unique? Its an fps, have you played bf 2142? Dust clearly took some pointers from that. Until we have virtual reality nothing will be unique, and even then the virtual reality games will be limited to genres and mechanics we already have.

Most MMOs have massive worlds to explore
Most MMOs have skills
All MMOs have the ability to customise your char just like the ships
Most MMOs have skills rather than just levelling up
Macros allow offline skills progression and alot now have macros as an option. Exploit or not its there.

Not really that unique is it, I shall be starting Eve soon though, the player driven economy is what I like the sound of

I've invested hundreds of dollars into your game BC I believe in it. Please don't let us down. 1.4 was good. Keep it up.

So look, I'm sure everyone at CCP knows just as well as we all do that this game is dying. And it's dying fast. We've already just lost roughly 1000 players to GTA V and the online isn't even out yet. Battlefield 4 and COD Ghost are coming out next as WELL as the ps4 and all the other stuff.

The reason there is so much QQ and complaining about this game is because this has SO much god damn potential it is excruciatingly painful to see it go down hill so rapidly. We complain not because we hate the game but because we HATE hating the game.

This is your last chance CCP, fix the game once and for all otherwise you will not, and I guarantee this, have a game by Christmas. All that capital and time wasted, all the hours of patching and forum posting and everything will be gone to waste. The '10 year plan' was always hilariously naive but you couldn't even break a year (counting from Uprising) and that is shameful. You don't have time anymore for these monthly patches where you'll update a thing here, or a thing there. No. Enough of that.

If you want this game to even have a CHANCE now, if you want the game to give people a reason to come back (other than SP building) then you just have to bring out all that you promised you would. Here's a little list for you.

- New maps (You brought out some great ones, keep them coming)

- New game modes (No, not skirmish with 10 letters I mean a NEW game mode)

- New vehicles (NO, not a different coloured Gallente tank but Amarr and Minmitar tanks)

- Proto-type tanks (sagaris, Surya etc)

- New drop suits (Not different coloured caldari assaults, but new heavies, logis, scouts, pilots, commanders, etc)
Have some chilli!!
- New weapons (Out of the box weapons, be creative, not OP)

- Increased player capacity in game modes (You know MAG?)

- Large maps for the above ^

- PvE. You remember when you advertised your game, Dust 514, you showed PvE? Yeah you actually have to incorporate that ****, you can't just dangle it in front of our eyes and then lol about it.

- Worthwhile EVE intergration. This whole "one universe one war" stuff is irrelevant, it doesn't matter to us if there is an EVE OB and there is next to no benefit of an EVE pilot helping us out.

- Open up player trading. For gods sake. Open it up.

- Corporation quarters, this gives us something else to spend our ISK on to making it look nice, hell you could even add in some mini-games or fun things to do in here.

- Intergrated Gambling/stocks/stakes. Another way to make ISK, something that you can put actual grind into and not have to worry about getting ****** over by players not honoring their bet.

- Training grounds. A new way for corporations to train, in which they can host private matches amongst themselves in which their ISK, SP, stats will not be effected and it it merely for training purposes in private server.

- Team Deploy in FW.

- Corporation battles (With isk betting)

- Integrated bounties (accepting contracts, carrying them out and automatically being paid upon completion)

- New MCCs (Minmitar, Amarr)

- Release Jets, APCs, and any other vehicles such as bikes/dune buggies you had in the works

- ADD F*CKING TREES

- Add more aspects to physical customisation of characters (e.g. paint jobs, corp emblems on shoulders or something like that)

- Add gravity differences to different planets

- Add weather (rain, wind, fog, storms)

- Add landmarks (You know that caldari prime ship? That was ******* bad ass)

- Better SP events

- Add in features to better assist newer players so that they won't insta-quit like 98% of them do.

- Fix players being able to lock their own districts

- Give incentive to being the underdog to corporations

- Add in drones in pub matches, have them as some sort of installation. You could make it expensive as hell but incredibly valuable, imagine how much that would change the dynamic.

- Add in more types of off-map support other than Orbital strikes


I'm sure there are tons and tons of crucial things I've left off of this list, but these are the ones which came to mind immediately. CCP, all this you'll read and think:

"Yeah yeah, yet another idiot who doesn't understand the time and money it takes to actually implement this stuff".

Well, I do understand. But frankly I don't care and no one else does either, and neither should you if you want this game to survive.

You're two options now are:

1) Kill the game
2) Save the game

:D



Trolls, please commence to tell me how much I QQ, that CCP doesn't listen, that I'm ignorant, that I don't understand, that I need some chilli, anything you like. I am aware you don't like lists, but idc.

I've invested hundreds of dollars into your game BC I believe in it. Please don't let us down. 1.4 was good. Keep it up.

Me too, dawg. $400+, easy. I love this damn game.

I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.

We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P