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843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:01:00 - [1] - Quote So look, I'm sure everyone at CCP knows just as well as we all do that this game is dying. And it's dying fast. We've already just lost roughly 1000 players to GTA V and the online isn't even out yet. Battlefield 4 and COD Ghost are coming out next as WELL as the ps4 and all the other stuff. The reason there is so much QQ and complaining about this game is because this has SO much god damn potential it is excruciatingly painful to see it go down hill so rapidly. We complain not because we hate the game but because we HATE hating the game. This is your last chance CCP, fix the game once and for all otherwise you will not, and I guarantee this, have a game by Christmas. All that capital and time wasted, all the hours of patching and forum posting and everything will be gone to waste. The '10 year plan' was always hilariously naive but you couldn't even break a year (counting from Uprising) and that is shameful. You don't have time anymore for these monthly patches where you'll update a thing here, or a thing there. No. Enough of that. If you want this game to even have a CHANCE now, if you want the game to give people a reason to come back (other than SP building) then you just have to bring out all that you promised you would. Here's a little list for you. - New maps (You brought out some great ones, keep them coming) - New game modes (No, not skirmish with 10 letters I mean a NEW game mode) - New vehicles (NO, not a different coloured Gallente tank but Amarr and Minmitar tanks) - Proto-type tanks (sagaris, Surya etc) - New drop suits (Not different coloured caldari assaults, but new heavies, logis, scouts, pilots, commanders, etc) - New weapons (Out of the box weapons, be creative, not OP) - Increased player capacity in game modes (You know MAG?) - Large maps for the above ^ - PvE. You remember when you advertised your game, Dust 514, you showed PvE? Yeah you actually have to incorporate that **, you can't just dangle it in front of our eyes and then lol about it. - Worthwhile EVE intergration. This whole "one universe one war" stuff is irrelevant, it doesn't matter to us if there is an EVE OB and there is next to no benefit of an EVE pilot helping us out. - Open up player trading. For gods sake. Open it up. - Corporation quarters, this gives us something else to spend our ISK on to making it look nice, hell you could even add in some mini-games or fun things to do in here. - Intergrated Gambling/stocks/stakes. Another way to make ISK, something that you can put actual grind into and not have to worry about getting **** over by players not honoring their bet. - Training grounds. A new way for corporations to train, in which they can host private matches amongst themselves in which their ISK, SP, stats will not be effected and it it merely for training purposes in private server. - Team Deploy in FW. - Corporation battles (With isk betting) - Integrated bounties (accepting contracts, carrying them out and automatically being paid upon completion) - New MCCs (Minmitar, Amarr) - Release Jets, APCs, and any other vehicles such as bikes/dune buggies you had in the works - ADD FCKING TREES - Add more aspects to physical customisation of characters (e.g. paint jobs, corp emblems on shoulders or something like that) - Add gravity differences to different planets - Add weather (rain, wind, fog, storms) - Add landmarks (You know that caldari prime ship? That was ****** bad ass) - Better SP events - Add in features to better assist newer players so that they won't insta-quit like 98% of them do. - Fix players being able to lock their own districts - Give incentive to being the underdog to corporations - Add in drones in pub matches, have them as some sort of installation. You could make it expensive as hell but incredibly valuable, imagine how much that would change the dynamic. - Add in more types of off-map support other than Orbital strikes I'm sure there are tons and tons of crucial things I've left off of this list, but these are the ones which came to mind immediately. CCP, all this you'll read and think: "Yeah yeah, yet another idiot who doesn't understand the time and money it takes to actually implement this stuff". Well, I do understand. But frankly I don't care and no one else does either, and neither should you if you want this game to survive. You're two options now are: 1) Kill the game 2) Save the game :D Trolls, please commence to tell me how much I QQ, that CCP doesn't listen, that I'm ignorant, that I don't understand, that I need some chilli, anything you like. I am aware you don't like lists, but idc.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. 23	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:09:00 - [2] - Quote I like everything but the larger playlists, 16 v 16 generally just turns into zerg the enemy as it is. Personally I would love an 8 man lonewolves type playlist or something similar to odd ball or CTF.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:11:00 - [3] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: I like everything but the larger playlists, 16 v 16 generally just turns into zerg the enemy as it is. Personally I would love an 8 man lonewolves type playlist or something similar to odd ball or CTF. I agree, but in the same way I'd love to see 40 militia guys use teamwork to take out 15 proto-fitted guys.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. 23	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:21:00 - [4] - Quote We'll have to disagree on that one =). The playlist I really want to see is VIP, we're mercs for chist's sake we should have a playlist were we are trying to assassinate and defend VIP's. I have a feeling no one would want to be the VIP though unless they got a lot of WP for it, or they had a very nice chari to roll around in lol.
Vell0cet Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:21:00 - [5] - Quote Entire list is confirmed for 1.6, perfectly balanced, and guaranteed not to break the game, all because of this post. Congratulations, you saved DUST.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 621	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:23:00 - [6] - Quote Someone's being dramatic.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3458	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:30:00 - [7] - Quote I find it somewhat amusing that you demand that all NOW! Then I find it sad. Also, this is thread #56098 since pretty much forever.
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 77	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:36:00 - [8] - Quote +1 CCP: Do it now!
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1097	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:55:00 - [9] - Quote And I want a pony!
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 152	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:04:00 - [10] - Quote Hey, I never said it was gunna happen. I just said it's pretty much the only thing that would stop the game from dying!

Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1098	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:09:00 - [11] - Quote We already know that most of these things are in the plans, but they're going to take a long time to implement. It'd be more productive to focus on things that they can finish in a month or two.
Dirks Macker Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 79	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:27:00 - [12] - Quote Most of the OP seems to already being worked on. They definitely need new game modes. An easy one would be a take on the classic push/pull domination where you are fighting to secure a highway, power lines, etc... How about rescue/abduction? But I can't see them allowing player trading until you have to make your gear from minerals. Someone with a dropsuit bpo can just make countless items and trade them to everybody they see. Even if it is took just 1-2 of each EVE mineral, a market value would be applied and just giving away everything for free would be costly.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 489	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:48:00 - [13] - Quote long, useless, qq and dust is dying simultaneous post.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 88	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:04:00 - [14] - Quote I actually have to say, I rather well like most of the list the OP made, these are things that I have been asking for in the forums as well. Also, while they say they are working on things I like to have to be expected by, and if they don't have it by then they need to have a reason why. I do not like it when gaming companies make promises without putting dates of completion, it reminds me to much of everquest, where they made promises, then only when the company was sinking in like the last 2 years of the game over a 10 year cycle did they even start accomplishing promises they had said they would be doing. As it is, new games are constantly comming out, new MMO's, including new FPS MMO's some that are really quite awesome are coming out. If Dust 514 is going to have a chance at holding a crowd more then just cultists, they need to strike fast and hard. Even Planetside 2 is making moves to save its ass having ads on tv and getting to the stage that they are going to rewrite a lot of the game to make it much faster, knowing that the Christmas time is make it or break for them as well and they have major funding compared to CCP.
Nonya Bizznizz DUST University Ivy League 50	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:16:00 - [15] - Quote For gods sake new game modes are needed. The only real new game mode that was released EVER was Domination, and even that is very similar to Skirmish. Why not have a mode where a Titan(yes, an almighty freaking Titan!)crashed from orbit and all kinds of sensitive data clusters were spread over a large area. Corps and factions from all over mobilized their best drones, and set out contracts for free lancing mercs. Problem is, enemy mercenaries and drones are also on the field, salvaging the same clusters you are! Something like this would be pretty cool.
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 183	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:28:00 - [16] - Quote Honestly, I think that the main thing they need to do is make some way of testing things so they don't need to be so darn cautious about everything. Their caution is making updates so SLOW!!

CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 1533	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:36:00 - [17] - Quote I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release. We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3459	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:39:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. ... it's just not physically possible! :P This. Regardless, the self-entitled whiners will keep demanding all of it and more. Thanks for responding, Mintchip. You didn't need to touch a thread like this, but you tried anyway.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1287	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:40:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release. We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P Give us RESPECS in the meanwhile so we can entretain ourselves making all kind of ridiculous loadouts... :3
Skipper Jones Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 802	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:54:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release. We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P Yeah how can you expect CCP to do that entire list between now and November? Games that have been worked on for years don't even have that much content.

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 887	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:01:00 - [21] - Quote Quote: I'm sure everyone at CCP knows just as well as we all do that this game is dying. And it's dying fast. And this is already where you're wrong. I created a thread about this topic: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1331807#post1331807 I also wrote in this thread that GTAV actually didn't cost Dust 514 any players at all. Stick to the numbers before writing assumptions. Everything is available at eve-offline.net
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 995	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:13:00 - [22] - Quote Good list. Want all of it. **** timeframe. Give us full line ups of rifles, I can entertain myself in these maps. Fix core mechanics. I.E, rework aiming again, fix HD even more. Give us a legit reason to fight in PC. I'd be fine to wait a bit for more content from there.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3461	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:28:00 - [23] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Quote: I'm sure everyone at CCP knows just as well as we all do that this game is dying. And it's dying fast. And this is already where you're wrong. I created a thread about this topic: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1331807#post1331807 I also wrote in this thread that GTAV actually didn't cost Dust 514 any players at all. Stick to the numbers before writing assumptions. Everything is available at eve-offline.net I <3 this man.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 962	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:39:00 - [24] - Quote That is a good list of features, OP, i agree with a lot of them. The only big issue i'd add to it is render distance. Numbers have dropped since beta, that's an undeniable fact. But when you look at the evidence and argument presented by several peeps in our community who subscribe to the whole evidence-based-reasoning thing, the case for DUST's numbers being stable is fairly solid. I'm not saying 2500-4000 peeps is good, but it is holding up under a fairly serious pounding from internal and external forces. Tbh, this is what i expect for games set in New Eden, and what really gives me hope lately is that CCP's priority list for 1.3, 1.4, 1.5 and prolly 1.6 are bang on and focusing on NPE, player retention and leveragable content. This game has taken a beating and is still standing, but we all know the bitter heart of the battle is just around the corner. Best thing we can do at this point is rein in the emotions and give CCP concise, accurate feedback that focuses on where we are in the development cycle. The best thing CCP can do at this point is get that CPM charter out right now, today, and done right. The reason this is so important is that it will give the CPM and us, the players, the opportunity to set priorities for upcoming sprints. But that's not enough in and of itself - communication will count for everything here. CCP+CPM need to find a way to make it perfectly clear to us what the windows and time frames are for discussion, what the range of possible sprint candidates is, and how, when and where to publicly post our feedback and to see CCP's feedback on sprint priorities. For the charter to have any meaning at all, the playerbase has to be in the loop and informed early of what input CCP is looking for. Comms will make or break this operation. The beta testers and devs have been through a lot, but Winter is coming and wounded as we are we're about to see the fight of our lives. But hell, we're DUST mercs and New Eden devs - do or die is what we were made for. Bring it.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:40:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release. We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP.
Vesago Ghostcore Rejected Clones 27	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:55:00 - [26] - Quote I've been playing EVE for a very long time, and one thing I am certain of is that CCP will keep you engaged in their game. They will do things you love, they will do things you hate. They will stay on the cutting edge of technology. They will stay Icelandicly indifferent to your bitching and moaning. In the end, they will lose players who have no patients (95%), and they will hold on to the 5% forever. That number will grow. CCP is the most frustrating group of people you will never speak to in the world, but they will always give you the best product they can, and they will not stop improving it... ever. Hang in there soldiers. Literally copy and pasted my comment from another similar thread in Generl Discussions...
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 12	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:07:00 - [27] - Quote This game is far from dying, way to much potential in it that I see from playing so far. They push updates out as much as they can and it is a lot of work. People have been saying this game is dying and yet they are still playing...
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1482	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:28:00 - [28] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Good list. Want all of it. **** timeframe. Give us full line ups of rifles, I can entertain myself in these maps. Fix core mechanics. I.E, rework aiming again, fix HD even more. Give us a legit reason to fight in PC. I'd be fine to wait a bit for more content from there. well full lineup of rifles was in 1.5 but pushed back to 1.6 :D
Lucrezia LeGrand Delta Enterprise 66	Posted - 2013.09.26 01:22:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release. We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P I love you mintchip. ^-^ Now here are my suggestions (btw, I'm willing to wait as long as you take to make sure everything comes out fine. Quality over Quantity): Maps- weather conditions. How cool would it be to fight in a huge dust storm with strong winds! low visibility, and drop-ships always pulling to one side! Awesome and realistic!! (and a scout's wet dream). Or raining, where everything is muddy and vehicles have low traction and sometimes they get stuck while trying to go up a hill or something. Game modes- p vs p vs e. Think about it. two player groups fighting each other. Than wham rival corp. send in a bunch of drones. suddenly the battlefield has changed. do you kill that red player or do you both team up to take down that drone heading your way! Drone attacks should happen randomly and rarely. On any game type. Or a research ship has crashed. now one team has to protect the ship while the other team is hired by a rival corp to secure the ship. Kind of like domination but one side starts with the installation and as soon as you lose it, game over. Also I like the idea of different off-the-map support. What about calling in a cloud of friendly nano-machines. as long as you're in the cloud you'll heal. Or what about emp wave an area of the map. suddenly the player's radar doesn't work and enemy units don't show up in red on screen. also I love the idea of customizing our drop-suit's aesthetics. Like I would pay aur for different colors. OP had some good ideas but I'm guessing all of that will take a long time. He needs to learn patience.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 755	Posted - 2013.09.26 01:45:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: -- snip -- We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. -- snip -- What! Why not? You are breaking the very concept of software development. Never release the good stuff. Keep it to yourselves so you can play with it and never make any money for all your efforts. Oh wait, that is the Freaking Opposite of how software development works. What a silly, young Kitten mistake. My bad.



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