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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
248
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:02:00 -
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Fotm games temporarily taking people is nothing to worry about. As long as there's eve there's dust. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
248
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:22:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Good list. Want all of it.
**** timeframe. Give us full line ups of rifles, I can entertain myself in these maps.
Fix core mechanics. I.E, rework aiming again, fix HD even more.
Give us a legit reason to fight in PC.
I'd be fine to wait a bit for more content from there.
Current PC is the beta for PC, moulden heath is worthless in the grand scheme of things, future PC will most likely require you to have decent eve backing. Of course to ignorant dusters none of what I just put will make any sense but you will all see, for instance most dust alliances can simply be disbanded from space via corporate takeovers, even Eon but again in the grand scheme of things its not even worth it. Plus I'm sure the guys really running Eon have the required empire skills to contest a corporate takeover. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:24:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P Give us RESPECS in the meanwhile so we can entretain ourselves making all kind of ridiculous loadouts...:3 http://1.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com/60/34/ee9073fc50c7b0f472ded37f92b23807.gif |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
133
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:02:00 -
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Would you like some cheese with that WHINE? Kidding, good list! People will stick around with this game for 2 reasons, if things are done right, and because it might someday affect EVE and EVE players wanna be ready. As much as the game's audience drops there will still BE an audience. Yes games are coming out that may divert peoples' attention (metal gear! dark souls 2! and yeah Call of Doodie and gta too) but this will be a test of peoples' patience, the game will stick around because it can and because some players will still play, maybe not as many or as often but they will still be there racking up SP waiting for the game to get better. When the game finally does become "finished", that means when all of the stuff that was advertised is actually out, and when the game can be less brutal and more inviting to new players, then maybe it can cater to an audience of over 2000.
I personally thing this game's first mistake was that it tried to compete, first of all because FPS games suck (though it's probably too late to be 3rd person) but because the west for some reason is infatuated with them, but only the well known titles. The game is different sure but not enough to make headlines yet. Seems like one thing we have plenty of is time though.
100% of my friends agree that this game would be better as a 3rd person shooter and it would probably attract a bigger crowd than it is now simply because it feels better and less clunky. Don't know if that's a possibility but it's something to consider. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
208
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:32:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P Not to sound like I can do things better what ccp needs to do is move all of their development studios for dust to the us put one by MIT and one by Digipen one by Full Sail and take on interns to help with the development cause your development team is way to small and it's obvious that you can't afford to hire a bigger one I am guessing that you have about 20 to 30 developers and you need at least 80. Interns work for experience and college credits it would allow you to expand your teams for very little money think about it |
TOXICkitten
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:52:00 -
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about 2 of 15 friends that I played with in beta still play..... It is a dying game. I've tried to get other friends involved. But the academy is so short. They get out and get raped instantly, they lose intrest in a day or so and go back to COD. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
253
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:41:00 -
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Been here since beta, always kept in mind the 10 year roadmap stated before open beta, CBA with anymore fotm games, dust is the only/last fps I will play intensively and the only reason I'd get a ps4. For everything else there's a pc |
Demel Derpovsky
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:55:00 -
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Dirks Macker wrote:Most of the OP seems to already being worked on.
They definitely need new game modes. An easy one would be a take on the classic push/pull domination where you are fighting to secure a highway, power lines, etc... How about rescue/abduction?
But I can't see them allowing player trading until you have to make your gear from minerals. Someone with a dropsuit bpo can just make countless items and trade them to everybody they see. Even if it is took just 1-2 of each EVE mineral, a market value would be applied and just giving away everything for free would be costly.
Not sure if this has been said before, but Corps could pay a role in this. Hear this out from a Dust 514 rper...just feel the flow of the following:
A corporation's war barge looms over a tanned planet. Soldiers conversation between themselves in the armory, high-ranking officials plan the attack and reassure Eve company holders that victory over this instillation is already at hand. The Objective is simple, take over a mine. Underneath the barren sands and infertile soil, hides a lush bounty of minerals, unfortunately being prospected by an apposing Eve corporation, and a Dust corporation has been hired to beat them to setting up shop and drilling first! The assault is on, the defending team must protect the prospectors and push the enemy off the area, while the attacking team has to push the defending team off the area, set up shop, and start drilling to win. Capture, kill, sabotage, and scavenge all you want, the only thing that matters is control over that tanned planet.... |
The Lion ElJonson
1st legion The Dark Angels
18
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:01:00 -
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What about using dust merc's as eve boarding parties battlefront style |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. ... it's just not physically possible! :P This. Regardless, the self-entitled whiners will keep demanding all of it and more. Thanks for responding, Mintchip. You didn't need to touch a thread like this, but you tried anyway.
The funny thing is, CCP doesn't really set the timeframe, though they'd like you to think they do.
It's the players who set the timeframe by deciding to spend money.
Keep that in mind MintChip while you're gently admonishing this fellow for giving your company advice that it sorely needs. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:05:00 -
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General Erick wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP.
No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
253
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:15:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:General Erick wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP. No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't.
Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:19:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:General Erick wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP. No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't. Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time.
Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1:
- Single shard economy - Player driven economy - Hard Sci-Fi theme - Significantly customizable ships - Vast space - Skill based rather than level based progression - Time based and offline skilling
All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them. |
843 Epidemic
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.09.26 07:00:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P
Aha success!! I do apologise, CCP, for the format of this post but it is often the most ignorant of people who get the attention when posting something like this. All I wanted was to see if you guys understood, and of course to test out how much butt hurt I could create hahahhaha. But thanks mintchip, this was all I wanted to hear
/(") |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
456
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Posted - 2013.09.26 07:02:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P Give us RESPECS in the meanwhile so we can entretain ourselves making all kind of ridiculous loadouts...:3
Iknow right |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.26 08:00:00 -
[46] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P
Defy the laws of Physics Damn it. DEFY THEM!!! |
GetSpooned
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 08:43:00 -
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What slowed CCP down is everyone QQ'ing over every thing ! CCP is constantly having to stop and adjust everything you all complain about to keep you happy. To them they problem feel they can't win for losing! This game is not COD , we are not equal. adjust your game play and stop saying things are op... maybe the guy behind the weapon is just good. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
199
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Posted - 2013.09.26 08:57:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P
I understand that these things will take time but Dust is in development since 2009? Thats already 4 years of development thats quit some time.
And even the more recent trailers like the Gathering the Forces Trailer keep promising things that aren't in the game. So to us that keep waiting for the game showed in the trailers for more than one, two or more years it seems a bit strange that every trailer is promising things (that we want) that we don't get .
Your hardcore playerbase has been very patient and surprisingly loyal all in all but don't expect this to last forever... |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1391
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:38:00 -
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Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline |
SirManBoy
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
289
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:42:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P
I believe in you guys. Whatever you do, don't give up on this game! |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
254
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:26:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:General Erick wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP. No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't. Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time. Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1: - Single shard economy - Player driven economy - Hard Sci-Fi theme - Significantly customizable ships - Vast space - Skill based rather than level based progression - Time based and offline skilling All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them.
Wrong there are loads of MMOs just like eve that are older but not sci fi, the economies were not player driven but you had trades and the market to sell and manipulate prices. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
254
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:30:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline
No, its just that there's less exploits and crutches so the people who played like that have left, they are fotm from their play style to their mentality toward games.
Still rocking Doom 95 and unreal tournament goty edition circa 1996 here to name a few |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
254
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:39:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:General Erick wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P EVE wasn't built in a day, OP. No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't. Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time. Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1: - Single shard economy - Player driven economy - Hard Sci-Fi theme - Significantly customizable ships - Vast space - Skill based rather than level based progression - Time based and offline skilling All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them.
Here is as something pretty funny, in ultima online I macroed 2 chars to skill up while offline. They are in my house, one is meleeing one and the other just keeps healing, it would never end and the house is locked. They have been doing that for the past 6 years, I might log on just to lol |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
331
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:10:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P How about some? Pretty please with a cherry or two on top and some chocolate syrup MintChip? I don't spend a lot of time in Dust anymore due to many of the same concerns that OP has. Check my record for all toons on this account and you will see when I started and my recent partial break from Dust. The OP has added a few more reasons than what I have for a reduction in my time here but in effect he has capture what many players are wanting. The 10 year roadmap that CCP announced for Dust is a really long time for a game to be developing. I understand that as the game evolves it will become better but there is a point in time where you need to start including some promised features. As a closed beta player I appreciate the time CCP is taking to release the changes to make sure things work properly but feel the weapons we now have are finely balanced. Now we need to start testing the planned stuff. This doesn't feel, to me like an unreasonable request, but instead a request to allow us to move forward in the development process. I don't want to have to wait to trade items with people for year 8 or 10 like what happened with the Drake and Missile Turret animations or year 5-7 for Walking in Quarters (it was supposed to be walking in stations). |
Stevez WingYip
Operation Wolf Pack
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:36:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:I understand your opinion. Fortunately there are a lot of things planned for the future that are completely sustainable and that we can provide from this list. However the time frame to get everything you've listed when you'd like it to be implemented is very unrealistic. We aren't purposefully keeping content from you by any means. We are working on making the game better from all angles! I understand you might be frustrated that you haven't gotten everything that you can think of but we are still very passionate about the game and work towards bettering the game every point release.
We have a vision for this game, and we think you will like it - but we are also at a point where we have to be realistic! As much as I want to give you everything you've ever wanted, and spoil you to pieces, it's just not physically possible! :P
Posts like this give me hope still. But information on what is actually happening would be much better for everyone. Not eta's because they are stupid and just cause drama because people can't understand that ETA = ESTIMATED.
But for example, a dedicated path notes area, more CCP streams for dust so we can see what is going on there, information and sharing ideas for new game modes and content. Don't promise, just share ideas, the more you interact with the remaining community this way, the more confident they will get and they are much more likely to stay.
I love DUST so much but I am so scared for whenever the PS4 launches. Especially with a ton of stores doing a "Trade in your PS3 for money off your PS4" offer.
I will be here till the end, I have no doubt but others will need convincing. |
Stevez WingYip
Operation Wolf Pack
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:42:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline No, its just that there's less exploits and crutches so the people who played like that have left, they are fotm from their play style to their mentality toward games. Still rocking Doom 95 and unreal tournament goty edition circa 1996 here to name a few
This post... so... much... nonsense... |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
256
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:44:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline No, its just that there's less exploits and crutches so the people who played like that have left, they are fotm from their play style to their mentality toward games. Still rocking Doom 95 and unreal tournament goty edition circa 1996 here to name a few This post... so... much... nonsense...
You must be a teenybopper, your entitled to your opinion, by the way do you even dust? |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
256
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:55:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Well it's taken 4+ years to have buggy broken game on on console at the end of its life cycle so by the time dust is worth playing there won't be any PS3 users left. Like or not you are running on a deadline No, its just that there's less exploits and crutches so the people who played like that have left, they are fotm from their play style to their mentality toward games. Still rocking Doom 95 and unreal tournament goty edition circa 1996 here to name a few This post... so... much... nonsense...
Actually, explain to me how my observation over the past couple of months seeing hundreds of fotm users quitting every time fotm things get balanced is nonsense. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1727
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:48:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't.
Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time. Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1: - Single shard economy - Player driven economy - Hard Sci-Fi theme - Significantly customizable ships - Vast space - Skill based rather than level based progression - Time based and offline skilling All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them. Wrong there are loads of MMOs just like eve that are older but not sci fi, the economies were not player driven but you had trades and the market to sell and manipulate prices.
Let's hear about them then. From my time with MMOs back then, I can tell you that each thing I listed was a differentiator for Eve. This is what Dust needs, but doesn't have - any real differentiators.
Incidentally, your UO quote is simply an exploit, not a game feature. Try again please.
The fact remains, even though Eve had very little content on launch, like Dust, Eve was unique and players responded to that uniqueness with loyalty. Dust isn't unique and players are responding to that by leaving. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
257
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:04:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
No, but it was unique on Day 1. Dust still isn't.
Nothing in any game has been unique for a long timev except the storylines which all follow genres so even then nothing new there for a long time. Wrong, Eve had a lot going for it (other than content) on day 1: - Single shard economy - Player driven economy - Hard Sci-Fi theme - Significantly customizable ships - Vast space - Skill based rather than level based progression - Time based and offline skilling All of these were pretty fresh for an MMO. Dust has none of this appeal currently IMHO. Also, plenty of new games have fresh and interesting ideas. It's unfortunate that currently, Dust isn't one of them. Wrong there are loads of MMOs just like eve that are older but not sci fi, the economies were not player driven but you had trades and the market to sell and manipulate prices. Let's hear about them then. From my time with MMOs back then, I can tell you that each thing I listed was a differentiator for Eve. This is what Dust needs, but doesn't have - any real differentiators. Incidentally, your UO quote is simply an exploit, not a game feature. Try again please. The fact remains, even though Eve had very little content on launch, like Dust, Eve was unique and players responded to that uniqueness with loyalty. Dust isn't unique and players are responding to that by leaving.
No game is truly unique, do I really have to explain how so? I'll make it real easy for you, an fps is an fps regardless, an mmo is an mmo regardless, a beat em up is a beat em up regardless, mortal kombat and street fighter are very different how the combos and specials work but they are both the same, so how exactly is dust supposed to be unique? Its an fps, have you played bf 2142? Dust clearly took some pointers from that. Until we have virtual reality nothing will be unique, and even then the virtual reality games will be limited to genres and mechanics we already have. |
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