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Killar-12 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Killar-12 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

This is not good.

So is the lack of respecs.

Offer respecs = Revive Dust514

for how long? 1 week? 2 weeks?

FOR A LOT MORE TIME BROSKI!

With some kind of Respec you would have a LOT of OLD players coming back to test things they've always wanted to test.
ATM there IS NO FOTM. So everybody with some Dust time will want to return to play with new weapons,try new loadouts,maybe be a tanker or a dropship pilot...

New players will be able to create their little Low level FOTM, like say,Heavies With Geks.After they feel they have enough SP to try a better loadout they just respec and play say,with amarr dropsuit and ASCR! OR Logis, Or whatever....

PLUS, with the current update speed CCP is giving us EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CURRENT STATE of the game,everytime an update comes you will want to try it to see if the game feels better for you. Not to mention every time we have new equipment/weapons/vehicles/dropsuits....

Yeah it would help a lot.
CANT YOU SEE?
NOT HAVING RESPECS =
Mr. Flaylock gets respec "Yay" immediatly dumps into FOTM next patch the gun is nerfed "I hate this game". Leaves game forever.

IS . NOT. WORKING.....

Once th RR, IP, BP, MSMG,and CR come then I'll agree

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Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1516	Posted - 2013.09.25 00:27:00 - [61] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Django Quik wrote: Upper Deckin wrote: Everyone got sick of beta testing a "finished" game. No one ever made that complaint. In fact we all quite vociferously told CCP it was NOT ready for release. It still is not. We are simply playing a demo until 2.0 comes out and we get a full range of suits, weapons, vehicles, racial outposts and new game modes (PVE). I've made that complaint. How are my decisions supposed to matter in a ******* demo that changes every month? When it was officially in beta it changed more like every 4-5 months. We wanted a 'finished game' at release. It NEEDED to be a finished game at release. Now it needs to be finished before all the bigger shinier toys completely overshadow it and this game is forgotten about. Don't get me wrong, I love this game and want it to succeed more than any other game but even the most loyal of players only has so much patience and when decisions are taken that effectively stall gameplay expansion (PVE on hold; Dust/Eve link plans reduced), that really makes people lose hope. Rather than just look at the numbers and get all doom and gloom though, we have to think about what CCP can do to regain and grow its playerbase. Fixing all the broken things might get some leavers back. Adding more gear and maps will keep the current players' attentions. The way I see it though, the only way CCP can gain new players ever is to expand on the game and show something tangible that lets us see the 'grand vision' coming through. *the grand vision being a massive, open world, expanding beyond the realms of just a lobby shooter (which it is atm, even in PC). This should be Eve in FPS form. Fittings and character wise, it's not extremely far off - in terms of gameplay depth/variety it is lightyears away.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 979	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:13:00 - [62] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: GTA V FTW wrote: Django Quik wrote: GTA V has had a dramatic impact with peak numbers dropping by at least 1000. This equates to a total playerbase drop of around 12,000, which is seriously significant. This game really needs to pull something big out the bag in the immediate future or Dust is going to get left in the... errr dust. I am sure IWS will be able to explain to you that 12,000 people leaving this MMO is not that big of a deal and that this game is a AAA game stuck in a Lobby FPS body, and that some day SoonGäó it will break out of its shell and be a great AAA MMO FPS RPG game. I am sure you're too much of an idiot to explain anything to about numbers, games, and why I predict that GTA online is going to go the way of Metal Gear Solid Online. Enjoy your 16 player lobbied/instanced 'MMO' (though hackers have claimed to have bumped the number to 32; and yes the game is already hacked seems to be no hot coffee this time around) people have problems looking at the big picture these days..... the long term investments..... annoying isn't it? :p
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1244	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:14:00 - [63] - Quote so if that many players are dusting how many are sweeping?
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1250	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:16:00 - [64] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1244	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:18:00 - [65] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514 for how long? 1 week? 2 weeks?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6471	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:31:00 - [66] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514 At this point might as well make it full asset respecs. I want to fly my ***** dropships and thinking about it has actually been really upsetting lately. I'm sorry that I took the crash course on CCP incompetence after a year of faithful testing and playing (mostly playing, but definitely testing) and thinking, oh geez, maybe just maybe the reason flying dropships was so difficult was just because I had never really maxed out the skills. Maybe just maybe if I max things out, it will actually make a difference. How *** wrong was I? How *** heart broken was I when I took my maxed out dropship into PC matches only to be absolutely destroyed in mere seconds, no matter the tactics I employed. How *** upset do you think I was when I played game after game, hour after hour, day after day, trying to work out my tactics. Swapping fits, changing my approach (I was intentionally deploying after every death in an effort to use my ISK buffer from Beta loot to try and fund my flight training again), even skilling into what I didn't want to skill into, Assault dropships, in a desperate attempt to have a *** useful logistics ship. All I want to do is be a kick ass dropship pilot that supports his team and amplifies the effectiveness of friendly armor LIKE IN ALL THE *** VIDEOS!!! Omfg I so ***** mad bro :/
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1252	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:37:00 - [67] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514 for how long? 1 week? 2 weeks? FOR A LOT MORE TIME BROSKI! With some kind of Respec you would have a LOT of OLD players coming back to test things they've always wanted to test. ATM there IS NO FOTM. So everybody with some Dust time will want to return to play with new weapons,try new loadouts,maybe be a tanker or a dropship pilot... New players will be able to create their little Low level FOTM, like say,Heavies With Geks.After they feel they have enough SP to try a better loadout they just respec and play say,with amarr dropsuit and ASCR! OR Logis, Or whatever.... PLUS, with the current update speed CCP is giving us EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CURRENT STATE of the game,everytime an update comes you will want to try it to see if the game feels better for you. Not to mention every time we have new equipment/weapons/vehicles/dropsuits.... Yeah it would help a lot. CANT YOU SEE? NOT HAVING RESPECS = IS . NOT. WORKING.....
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1248	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:39:00 - [68] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Killar-12 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514 for how long? 1 week? 2 weeks? FOR A LOT MORE TIME BROSKI! With some kind of Respec you would have a LOT of OLD players coming back to test things they've always wanted to test. ATM there IS NO FOTM. So everybody with some Dust time will want to return to play with new weapons,try new loadouts,maybe be a tanker or a dropship pilot... New players will be able to create their little Low level FOTM, like say,Heavies With Geks.After they feel they have enough SP to try a better loadout they just respec and play say,with amarr dropsuit and ASCR! OR Logis, Or whatever.... PLUS, with the current update speed CCP is giving us EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CURRENT STATE of the game,everytime an update comes you will want to try it to see if the game feels better for you. Not to mention every time we have new equipment/weapons/vehicles/dropsuits.... Yeah it would help a lot. CANT YOU SEE? NOT HAVING RESPECS = IS . NOT. WORKING..... Once th RR, IP, BP, MSMG,and CR come then I'll agree
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 476	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:42:00 - [69] - Quote GTA V FTW wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: These next weeks are going to be unstable as heck. So far modulation of the frequency is remaining the same. What numbers to watch is probably PS4 and XBONE number dips because those... those are going to contain permanent losses of people who traded their old box in for a new one. First logical thing that I think I have ever seen you post. Did you put your pom poms down in order to right this? I was kind of baffled to hear those words come out of his mouth myself; maybe some of the oldest vets are getting smart and jumping off board before they sink with the ship.
GTA V FTW Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:21:00 - [70] - Quote Oh BTW Currently online: 3,224 Max (24h): 3,492 Current record: 9,255 Let me guess what Iron Wold Saber would say if he could separate his lips from CCP's (insert whatever body part you want here) , " Tuesday night and everyone is capped, tomorrows numbers will be back to normal, opps excuse me while I wipe this salty white substance off my chin . " http://www.eve-offline.net/?server=dust

Synbot Expert Intervention Caldari State 170	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:24:00 - [71] - Quote Make that 2636 ;-) HUEHUEHUE #loggedoff
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1710	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:26:00 - [72] - Quote AR 514...Er, Dust has nothing unique to offer. This is the problem. CCP has spent the last 6 months to a year trying to polish the "core" because someone told them this was the way to win. Very wrong indeed. Dust needs new content in a big way. No, it doesn't matter if it's broken...so long as it isn't gamebreakingly broken. People will play a flawed but interesting game. They will not play a perfect but boring game. Dust is proving this one lost player at a time these days.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 480	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:39:00 - [73] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: AR 514...Er, Dust has nothing unique to offer. This is the problem. CCP has spent the last 6 months to a year trying to polish the "core" because someone told them this was the way to win. Very wrong indeed. Dust needs new content in a big way. No, it doesn't matter if it's broken...so long as it isn't gamebreakingly broken. People will play a flawed but interesting game. They will not play a perfect but boring game. Dust is proving this one lost player at a time these days. I agree 100% with your statement, and 0% with CCP's proven content releasing competence.
da GAND High-Damage 250	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:07:00 - [74] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: AR 514...Er, Dust has nothing unique to offer. This is the problem. CCP has spent the last 6 months to a year trying to polish the "core" because someone told them this was the way to win. Very wrong indeed. Dust needs new content in a big way. No, it doesn't matter if it's broken...so long as it isn't gamebreakingly broken. People will play a flawed but interesting game. They will not play a perfect but boring game. Dust is proving this one lost player at a time these days. Agreed
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:11:00 - [75] - Quote Posted at 4:15 PM EST Currently online:2,988 Max (24h):3,492 Current record:9,255
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 785	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:40:00 - [76] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: These next weeks are going to be unstable as heck. So far modulation of the frequency is remaining the same. What numbers to watch is probably PS4 and XBONE number dips because those... those are going to contain permanent losses of people who traded their old box in for a new one. Yes and no. October 1st GTA V Online so expect less Dust 514 players. October 4th BF4 so expect less dusties and I will also be playing that BF4 Beta so I will be not playing Dust those days. And once I have my PS4 well unless theres a Dust 514 client that means no more dusting for me. 59 more days to go more or less until Black Friday shopping spree and my PS4.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 720	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:59:00 - [77] - Quote Can I have your Corp?
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 786	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:11:00 - [78] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Can I have your Corp? Nope!! All assets are going into Corporate holding facility until a strike team can open a wormhole gateway to the PS4 Universe.
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:31:00 - [79] - Quote Dust is the first pvp sandbox mmo fps in market but unfortunately it failed due to poor budget and lack of working power .
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:44:00 - [80] - Quote and gta 5 will suck why player count and map are too small no rpg u cannot play cops, EMT ,Growing Drugs, making drug ,civilian jobs,mining , growing food, hunting, City Life RPG mod for arma 2 http://city-life-rpg.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page and also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzmA6KL_tKw ARMA 3: Altis Life

Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 66	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:18:00 - [81] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Killar-12 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: pegasis prime wrote: This is not good. So is the lack of respecs. Offer respecs = Revive Dust514 for how long? 1 week? 2 weeks? FOR A LOT MORE TIME BROSKI! With some kind of Respec you would have a LOT of OLD players coming back to test things they've always wanted to test. ATM there IS NO FOTM. So everybody with some Dust time will want to return to play with new weapons,try new loadouts,maybe be a tanker or a dropship pilot... New players will be able to create their little Low level FOTM, like say,Heavies With Geks.After they feel they have enough SP to try a better loadout they just respec and play say,with amarr dropsuit and ASCR! OR Logis, Or whatever.... PLUS, with the current update speed CCP is giving us EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CURRENT STATE of the game,everytime an update comes you will want to try it to see if the game feels better for you. Not to mention every time we have new equipment/weapons/vehicles/dropsuits.... Yeah it would help a lot. CANT YOU SEE? NOT HAVING RESPECS = Mr. Flaylock gets respec "Yay" immediatly dumps into FOTM next patch the gun is nerfed "I hate this game". Leaves game forever. IS . NOT. WORKING..... Once th RR, IP, BP, MSMG,and CR come then I'll agree
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 751	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:27:00 - [82] - Quote School is back on for a lot of people, the drop is normal. Everything else was supposed to kill Dust and it's still here.
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:31:00 - [83] - Quote As of 6:30 PM EST Currently online: 0 Max (24h): 3,492 Current record: 9,255
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1084	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:38:00 - [84] - Quote I don't think anyone really thinks GTA online is really going to permantly take players away from dust514. Two different genres. No that is BF4 job. but it's really ps4 that will see those that leave and never return.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8908	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:39:00 - [85] - Quote I don't see where people are getting the 9k number, we never had that high during the beta of dust only players. Also API errors are fairly common. Like last month the website was plagued with weird down spikes that did nothing to disrupt the overall waveform whereas oh say a server offline error causes a significant decline in the waveform. Either way 66% loss rate is far better than the 90% loss rate of planetside 2. As for the effects of GTA Online content consumption rate puts its lifespan at 2 months after launch with no updates, thats the hardcore bunch, casuals typically take anywhere from 2x to 4x longer. Also since nothing in GTA Online is pressing or 'really plays on' without the character logged in its possible if the players know of the fact that then they may not dedicate as much time to the game as a traditional mmo would normally demand. The other weird thing is that other people have to be loaded into your GTA online instance. Or if they get loaded into your instance it could turn ugly if eve online is any good indicator of social interaction as one puts it 'we're just looking for gud fights but not find'n any,' may just kill the game due to apprehension if losing becomes a big deal. Games like BF4 has about 4-6 months content because the tedious amount of grinding required (at least its a fun grind) and overall there is no perception of end game in BF so players will play on. Similar to how CoD prestige mode somewhat works it eliminates the end game syndrome by simply reintroducing beginning game content back over again. This is why these games can remain highly popular until the next sequel. Halo 4 recently jumped on the bandwagon while you don't get any special gear or weapons or the sorts you do get pretty looking armor and the sorts.
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 266	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:44:00 - [86] - Quote It's a free game. It's got a reasonably healthy playerbase. What are we seriously expecting from a free to play product? I like getting my btch on about stuff as much as anybody, that can certainly be fun*, cathartic even, but at the end of the day, they're giving this stuff away for free. As a guy who's gotten a few hundred hours of enjoyment and a few dozen hours of aggravation, all for the staggering initial investment of $0.00, I'm alright with this game. I'll be even more all right with it when they buff tanks.
Vesago Ghostcore Rejected Clones 26	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:57:00 - [87] - Quote I've been playing EVE for a very long time, and one thing I am certain of is that CCP will keep you engaged in their game. They will do things you love, they will do things you hate. They will stay on the cutting edge of technology. They will stay Icelandicly indifferent to your bitching and moaning. In the end, they will lose players who have no patients (95%), and they will hold on to the 5% forever. That number will grow. CCP is the most frustrating group of people you will never speak to in the world, but they will always give you the best product they can, and they will not stop improving it... ever. Hang in there soldiers.
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:59:00 - [88] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What is weird is that dust 514 keeps rebounding. . You sure about this statement? BTW 3,392 players as of 7:00 PM EST
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 155	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:13:00 - [89] - Quote Buttercup Chipmint wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What is weird is that dust 514 keeps rebounding. . You sure about this statement? BTW 3,392 players as of 7:00 PM EST 3422 at 7:15 EST..... hmmmm seems the kiddies are done with school, homework and dinner. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 489	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:25:00 - [90] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: School is back on for a lot of people, the drop is normal. Everything else was supposed to kill Dust and it's still here. You do realize that when school starts, everyone keeps a normal schedule in which they fill their free time with activities... First, they said it was summer, so people were on vacation... Second, they say school started so now people don't have the time (graduate student in Mathematics here, and I still have free time to play games [just might not be this one]). Please fanboys, keep telling yourself that they will come back, instead of actually admitting that they are not coming back, unless it's months from now; Just remember that MANY games for the next gen are coming out, and with 4000k as the max I've seen in the last couple months, I don't see this game getting "back on track".



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