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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:19:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Django Quik wrote:GTA V has had a dramatic impact with peak numbers dropping by at least 1000. This equates to a total playerbase drop of around 12,000, which is seriously significant. This game really needs to pull something big out the bag in the immediate future or Dust is going to get left in the... errr dust. I am sure IWS will be able to explain to you that 12,000 people leaving this MMO is not that big of a deal and that this game is a AAA game stuck in a Lobby FPS body, and that some day SoonGäó it will break out of its shell and be a great AAA MMO FPS RPG game. I am sure you're too much of an idiot to explain anything to about numbers, games, and why I predict that GTA online is going to go the way of Metal Gear Solid Online. Enjoy your 16 player lobbied/instanced 'MMO' (though hackers have claimed to have bumped the number to 32; and yes the game is already hacked seems to be no hot coffee this time around) MGO was a VASTLY better game than dust, the ONLY reason it died was from incompetent moderators (CCP is worse) and rampant glitching (i'm talking DDoS attacks to prevent official tourney matches from happening). The game itself was amazing, had 10K+ players it's first year, and was set for a 10 year plan until hackers and glitchers literally ruined the game.
 
 Even after all that, it lasted exactly 4 years.
 
 The learning curve in MGO was in the gameplay, not the skills and menus system like in DUST
 
 CCP could learn a thing or two from what happened to MGO, but it seems like dust is on the same course, doomed to fail, in less than 4 years.
 
 There is nothing wrong with 16v16 lobby gameplay if it's fun, engaging, smooth, exciting, etc., all things dust are not.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 8825
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:21:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Django Quik wrote:GTA V has had a dramatic impact with peak numbers dropping by at least 1000. This equates to a total playerbase drop of around 12,000, which is seriously significant. This game really needs to pull something big out the bag in the immediate future or Dust is going to get left in the... errr dust. I am sure IWS will be able to explain to you that 12,000 people leaving this MMO is not that big of a deal and that this game is a AAA game stuck in a Lobby FPS body, and that some day SoonGäó it will break out of its shell and be a great AAA MMO FPS RPG game. I am sure you're too much of an idiot to explain anything to about numbers, games, and why I predict that GTA online is going to go the way of Metal Gear Solid Online. Enjoy your 16 player lobbied/instanced 'MMO' (though hackers have claimed to have bumped the number to 32; and yes the game is already hacked seems to be no hot coffee this time around) kinda like how people are enjoying DUST 16v16 "MMO"?   
 Hey he started that argument. From what I understand about the online aspect about GTA Online is that it is only as persistent as diablo 3 is, which is contained to character. In other words if you delete your character, your presence in that world goes with you all your accomplishments, establishments and the sorts gone nothing survives you or becomes a permanent or temporary scar anywhere. This is probably why Diablo and Borderlands have been regarded as meta-mmos instead of full fledge sorts. The rest is mostly Go to place A or B, do traditional style mmo missions such as cap 5 fools playin around your corner, and team death match. Oh and level up.
 
 Oh and Golf (which btw was stupid amounts of fun in Halo Reach/4)
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        |  Quill Killian
 Better Hide R Die
 
 265
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:22:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:These next weeks are going to be unstable as heck. So far modulation of the frequency is remaining the same.
 What numbers to watch is probably PS4 and XBONE number dips because those... those are going to contain permanent losses of people who traded their old box in for a new one.
 
 I pre-ordered a PS4 the day after it was detailed at E3 ... so, yeah, I'm going to be one of those people moving along to the next generation. I plan to keep my PS3, though, as a "secondary" gaming device, as there are some RPGs (Bioware's stable of titles and Bethesada's Skyrim) that I will continue to play on occasion.
 
 Dust 514? *shrug* It's a giant "if" at this moment, largely hinging on how BF4 and Planetside 2 handle themselves in the weeks and months after PS4 goes to the consumers.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 505
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:22:00 -
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 pegasis prime wrote:This is not good.  
 That's cool. Seeing how the West is a very big part of the number and a lot of people in the West have jobs and school and jobs and school usually occupy this time, rather than games.
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        |  Everything Dies
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
 117
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:23:00 -
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 GTA V FTW wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:These next weeks are going to be unstable as heck. So far modulation of the frequency is remaining the same.
 What numbers to watch is probably PS4 and XBONE number dips because those... those are going to contain permanent losses of people who traded their old box in for a new one.
 First logical thing that I think I have ever seen you post. Did you put your pom poms down in order to right this? Shouldn't you be playing your precious GTA V?
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        |  GTA V FTW
 Kang Lo Directorate
 Gallente Federation
 
 127
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:31:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Django Quik wrote:GTA V has had a dramatic impact with peak numbers dropping by at least 1000. This equates to a total playerbase drop of around 12,000, which is seriously significant. This game really needs to pull something big out the bag in the immediate future or Dust is going to get left in the... errr dust. I am sure IWS will be able to explain to you that 12,000 people leaving this MMO is not that big of a deal and that this game is a AAA game stuck in a Lobby FPS body, and that some day SoonGäó it will break out of its shell and be a great AAA MMO FPS RPG game. I am sure you're too much of an idiot to explain anything to about numbers, games, and why I predict that GTA online is going to go the way of Metal Gear Solid Online. Enjoy your 16 player lobbied/instanced 'MMO' (though hackers have claimed to have bumped the number to 32; and yes the game is already hacked seems to be no hot coffee this time around) LMFAO
 
 As some of the others have pointed out to you this^ statement is full of all sorts of stupid.
 Nice try kid.
 
 You trying to prove the fact that GTA is garbage just proves my point.
 You have no clue and just keep looking more stupid at every attempt, so please just stop you are just looking pathitic.
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        |  Pvt Numnutz
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 236
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:34:00 -
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 Well GTA5 came out and people are playing it. I just beat it and am now going to be logging back into dust. Who says I can't go try other games? It sure was fun, but dust is the end game, and after all the other games are played and done ill still be logging into dust for some fun
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        |  Poonmunch
 Sanguis Defense Syndicate
 
 399
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:36:00 -
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 pegasis prime wrote:This is not good.  
 Dude, it's the middle of a workday in North America.
 
 Check this evening or on a weekend.
 
 
 Munch
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 8827
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 19:40:00 -
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 I know someone should start one of these threads when right after downtime.
 
 It should be titled
 
 only 26 players dusting just now
 
 Also boxing players into small rooms is not a bad thing to be honest. Makes the game feel full even when your populations start dipping into the sub 1k.
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        |  CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 1755
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 20:12:00 -
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 the numbers right now are not representative of anything aside from possibly EU numbers.
 
 what im more curious in is the numbers of people that log on to collect their free sp and then go play another game.
 
 factor that in as well as non eve-related players. then publish those stats...
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 8838
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 20:37:00 -
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 CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:the numbers right now are not representative of anything aside from possibly EU numbers.
 what im more curious in is the numbers of people that log on to collect their free sp and then go play another game.
 
 factor that in as well as non eve-related players. then publish those stats...
 
 Those people are only counted for the time they're logged in though so they don't tick up or tick down that much and since server API like only reports every ... 15 minutes? They're contribution is in and out and not seen on the graph influence as much.
 
 Also we're up today on population over yesterday.
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        |  Buddha Brown
 Factory Fresh
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 20:40:00 -
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 I am not bashing, and I do enjoy Dust. But I haven't had a reason to log on or even play other than the SP collection, which gets very old and I am part of whatever decay is going on (if it's even true) since i havent played more than 1 game a week in a very long time
 
 Just sayin'
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 8838
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 20:43:00 -
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 Buddha Brown wrote:I am not bashing, and I do enjoy Dust. But I haven't had a reason to log on or even play other than the SP collection, which gets very old and I am part of whatever decay is going on (if it's even true) since i havent played more than 1 game a week in a very long time
 Just sayin'
 
 Yeah I hear ya, Context is a bit far ways off. I just wished they had committed to such update cycles during the beta.
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        |  J'Jor Da'Wg
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 924
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 20:59:00 -
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 Avallo Kantor wrote:It's around lunch time on NA TZs, on a workday. 
 Stop finding some of the lowest times to complain about numbers.
 24 hour cap is currently 3581, far more reasonable a number.
 
 No need to be alarmist.
 
 A few months ago it was 5,000 at 5:00 EST, a time when many people are getting home from work and many school kids have been home for a while.
 
 
 Right now it is at 3,123 players on DUST.
 
 I don't want to preach doom and gloom. That is why I disagree with people saying "GTA V will kill DUST".
 
 However as I predicted a steady downward trend is taking place where we are gradually losing people to boredom and frusturation...
 
 When will it be okay to have 2,000 players? 1,000? In a F2P MMO on the PS3? At this point MAG is almost rivaling DUST, and that game is nearly dead!
 
 
 EDIT: According to EVE-Offlines charts, on 5-25-13 DUST topped out at 6,551 players. Over the past six months there has been a very real downward path to our current 3,300... and it doesn't show any signs of going upwards...
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
 1083
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 21:00:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:the numbers right now are not representative of anything aside from possibly EU numbers.
 what im more curious in is the numbers of people that log on to collect their free sp and then go play another game.
 
 factor that in as well as non eve-related players. then publish those stats...
 Those people are only counted for the time they're logged in though so they don't tick up or tick down that much and since server API like only reports every ... 15 minutes? They're contribution is in and out and not seen on the graph influence as much.  Also we're up today on population over yesterday. 
 
 Well thanks to the bonus sp to just log in. I JUST log in. I don't play, just grab sp and log off. GTA5 needs to be beaten before oct 1st.
 
 *you sure you can do it? your at 60%*
 
 I WILL DO IT!!
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        |  FATPrincess - XOXO
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 574
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 21:02:00 -
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 Void Echo wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:The young guys are at work, the kids are at school; only housewives, jobless people, rich people, and old guys are on right now.
 Now consider the majority of dusters are between 18 and 40
 not to mention internet classes. which i fall under that category 
 I think she's an old, rich housewife. :P
 
 -XOXO
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        |  DiGreatDestroyer
 Conspiratus Immortalis
 Covert Intervention
 
 26
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 21:59:00 -
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 Its enough. Enough to alarm the devs, and to keep this game alive. We can hold on for another year at least.
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        |  negative49er
 Krusual Covert Operators
 Minmatar Republic
 
 201
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 22:46:00 -
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 Of course it no good everyone using the same thing that get annoying and boring fast
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        |  Upper Deckin
 Fraternity of St. Venefice
 Amarr Empire
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:09:00 -
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 Everyone got sick of beta testing a "finished" game.
 
 Let's change the game with no repec..... after changing damn near every weapon / vehicle .
 
 Derp LAV's are killing me ..... SOoooooooo lets me complain so they take the free ones out... when it was mostly LLAV..derp
 So if you want a isk free one you have to pay real money .... YAY they listened to us ..... but we all lost ... FUdge the new players right guys?
 
 Saw guys arguing about recalling vehicles the other day , so they fought until it was suggested that the infantry shouldnt be able to use supply depot if tanks couldnt be recalled.....
 So with either side not back down til we would all lose a good option to the game ....over stupidness.
 
 As many mistakes as CPP made with this game ... YOU forum warriors are killing it too .
 
 I bet they love how ya'll fight and argue all day ...with each other .
 
 Boy imagine ...just stop and think what would happen if we maybe were civil with each other and tried to work together , we all love the game right?
 
 Imagine what we could get done if maybe ..... we were holding their feet to the fire instead of spending all our spare time trying to get each other nerf'd
 
 As always
 Love Nerf.
 
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 3895
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:38:00 -
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 Upper Deckin wrote:Everyone got sick of beta testing a "finished" game.
 Let's change the game with no repec..... after changing damn near every weapon / vehicle .
 
 Derp LAV's are killing me ..... SOoooooooo lets me complain so they take the free ones out... when it was mostly LLAV..derp
 So if you want a isk free one you have to pay real money .... YAY they listened to us ..... but we all lost ... FUdge the new players right guys?
 
 Saw guys arguing about recalling vehicles the other day , so they fought until it was suggested that the infantry shouldnt be able to use supply depot if tanks couldnt be recalled.....
 So with either side not back down til we would all lose a good option to the game ....over stupidness.
 
 As many mistakes as CPP made with this game ... YOU forum warriors are killing it too .
 
 I bet they love how ya'll fight and argue all day ...with each other .
 
 Boy imagine ...just stop and think what would happen if we maybe were civil with each other and tried to work together , we all love the game right?
 
 Imagine what we could get done if maybe ..... we were holding their feet to the fire instead of spending all our spare time trying to get each other nerf'd
 
 As always
 Love Nerf.
 
 
 I'm sorry but for every bad suggestion they take, they ignore the good ones. At the end of the day it's CCP that makes the decisions. Don't blame the community for the mistakes of CCP.
 
 Uprising is a prime example of how CCP completely ignored ALL the good feedback from the beta.
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        |  Michael Arck
 Anubis Prime Syndicate
 
 1211
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:40:00 -
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 Oh my god its the end of the world!!! Quick, hide underneath a table!!!
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        |  Aikuchi Tomaru
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 812
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:42:00 -
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 J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:[quote=Avallo Kantor]When will it be okay to have 2,000 players? 1,000? In a F2P MMO on the PS3? At this point MAG is almost rivaling DUST, and that game is nearly dead! 
 And Dust is rivaling MWO and Planetside 2 in terms of player numbers. Damn. Must be really ******, because apparently every single F2P game is dead. Weird though, that the industry jumps onto the F2P train even though every single F2P game is dead.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 383
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:45:00 -
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 look at MAG player base now, it how Dust going be in one year.
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        |  Spycrab Potato
 Hold-Your-Fire
 
 488
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:47:00 -
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 Justin Tymes wrote:I fear that Dust will have to relaunch, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. AFK(ers) is now gone, leaving nothing but SP grind, and the amount of SP you gain per match is just not enough. The link between Eve and Dust is non-existent, Eve players couldn't give a damn about Dusties, and many Dust players don't even know about Eve. Customization is locked behind pre-req, which is locked behind a pre-req, which is locked behind another pre-req, while organized proto-squads continue to dominate blues. This game definitely should not have came out of Beta. Afking is still easy. Now you just have to put your controller face-down.
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        |  Benjamin Ciscko
 S.e.V.e.N.
 
 59
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:52:00 -
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 I've seen so many posts that go something like this I'm leaving Dust until they fix... Dust needs some major event or addition which will bring the hundreds who left until vehicles or aim assist or whatever was fixed something like PvE or a one day event where all players have unlimited ISK for the first 4 games. Even if it was just for a day however long term would be better just getting people to play again should be at the top of list, they should be working on PvE or another event as we speak or type rather.
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        |  Benjamin Ciscko
 S.e.V.e.N.
 
 59
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.24 23:56:00 -
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 Spycrab Potato wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:I fear that Dust will have to relaunch, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. AFK(ers) is now gone, leaving nothing but SP grind, and the amount of SP you gain per match is just not enough. The link between Eve and Dust is non-existent, Eve players couldn't give a damn about Dusties, and many Dust players don't even know about Eve. Customization is locked behind pre-req, which is locked behind a pre-req, which is locked behind another pre-req, while organized proto-squads continue to dominate blues. This game definitely should not have came out of Beta. Afking is still easy. Now you just have to put your controller face-down. My DS3 is so old I don't even need a rubber band I don't AFK but it gets annoying when the thumb stick gets stuck and your in a menu.
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        |  da GAND
 High-Damage
 
 244
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.25 00:01:00 -
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 The most i've seen lately is around 3,900. I'm guessing these are the dedicated players since the most I've seen around official release was 11,000.
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        |  Django Quik
 Dust2Dust.
 Top Men.
 
 1515
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.25 00:01:00 -
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 Upper Deckin wrote:Everyone got sick of beta testing a "finished" game. No one ever made that complaint. In fact we all quite vociferously told CCP it was NOT ready for release. It still is not. We are simply playing a demo until 2.0 comes out and we get a full range of suits, weapons, vehicles, racial outposts and new game modes (PVE).
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6465
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.25 00:03:00 -
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 Django Quik wrote:Upper Deckin wrote:Everyone got sick of beta testing a "finished" game. No one ever made that complaint. In fact we all quite vociferously told CCP it was NOT ready for release. It still is not. We are simply playing a demo until 2.0 comes out and we get a full range of suits, weapons, vehicles, racial outposts and new game modes (PVE). I've made that complaint.
 
 How are my decisions supposed to matter in a ******* demo that changes every month?
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        |  Coleman Gray
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 724
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.25 00:23:00 -
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 Well I bet alot of people feel jipped by 1.5, basically a big "f-uck you" to vehicle users which means at least another month or two or more before people who have spent alot of time on this game aren't wasting their time
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