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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
878
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:30:00 -
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Paradoxical Nature wrote:I'm very weary of the TCO role, not because of what it is or what it does, but what it could mean. I've been part of PC matches where, like clockwork, a player gets black-screened, disconnects, or some other vague mishap that occurs when deploying to the match. In the past, if that player is a member of the corporation; they'll just restart and join in separately. If not, one of the backups (usually from the corp in question) will join separately.
Now, that you have to be a TCO to join a Corp Match, how can mitigation of Deployment Issues be lessened?
Me too. It seems a full member / new recruit status makes more sense to have. Where everyone is full member by default. Anyone just joining the corporation is a recruit. Recruit basically can't do anything until they are made full members. This will help flag members for the recruiters to play with and would along corporations to play test members before they are let in to PC battles and other corporation functions. |
Prangstar RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:41:00 -
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what a joke. Having only selected people be able to bring players into PC seems like a crazy idea. I like the idea of having roles. but all members of a corp should be able to join a battle. Not only because of faulty servers that kick people out, but also because the players that do have the role might not be there, or maybe only one. So he will have to back out 3 times to bring in players. It doesnt make sense at all and most likely make things harder then they need to be. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
131
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:42:00 -
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1.5 BREAKING NEWS!! You can now rotate the camera to view the front of your merc . |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:43:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
Yes DUST players can accept applications, but the EVE player has to then hit accept as well since thats how it works in EVE.
It would be great if it DID NOT work this way. It was hell with my guys in the beginning to not accept the EVE guys. We have a lot more stringent rules and criteria on EVE than DUST. It sucks when a DUST guy accepts an EVE guy without us doing our proper due diligence first.
Could you change this please?
Also, there is only one CEO. Understood. Will this allow us to have one CEO on DUST and one CEO on EVE? Or just one CEO over the whole corp. The reason why I think we may think about this, is because we have a CEO on EVE who runs the EVE side of things but we also have a CEO on DUST who runs the DUST side of things and it's some what of a pain for the EVE CEO to keep getting on to delegate directorship to the DUST guys for the DUST CEO. We may be the only corp that runs this way, but this is a little bit of a pain. Just food for thought. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1070
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:44:00 -
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Question about this that I posted in another thread, before this one existed, about forums.
CEOs and directors have their own forum for discussing things. Can we get another forum added to the corp section for officers? It'd be useful to have a place for people with responsibilities in the corp who aren't directors to discuss things without cluttering up the general board. |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:46:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:1.5 BREAKING NEWS!! You can now rotate the camera to view the front of your merc .
Post the link sir.
Also, when is 1.5 being released? Maybe I missed it. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
709
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:47:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:There are many players who are going to be asking why do this when you could give us some new weapons?
Because this blog represents one of the biggest leaps forward in the delvelopment of the game. Certainly as big as PC and more so than the skill tree updates.
This is going to be a major help for how corporations are able to be maintained. Anything that allows a CEO and directors the ability to safely delegate tasks such as recruitment without access to to the wallet and district control is going to be a huge boost.
It also means that we can now reward those players that are helpful to the corp and give them a sense of responsibility and engagement by giving them a role in the day to day running of a corp.
Kevall Longstride/ Dennie Fleetfoot CEO DUST University
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on these forums.
You know what these updates are? They're conveniences. Adding a special Recruiter-only role only consolidates what could already have been done by any director or CEO. With a bigger corporation, obviously it's going to be nice, but this doesn't add anything to the game that couldn't have been done already.
As big as PC...lolwut. |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
216
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:54:00 -
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Prangstar RND wrote:what a joke. Having only selected people be able to bring players into PC seems like a crazy idea. I like the idea of having roles. but all members of a corp should be able to join a battle. Not only because of faulty servers that kick people out, but also because the players that do have the role might not be there, or maybe only one. So he will have to back out 3 times to bring in players. It doesnt make sense at all and most likely make things harder then they need to be. You can appoint multiple people to the role, and I would advise appointing everyone who's approved to fight in PC. If 80% of the people who are going into PC are appointed to the TCO role, then any connection issues where they drop out will be mitigated by being able to jump right back in after a reset. By having a way to approve whether someone can join PC or not, you can keep out anyone who hasn't been specifically vetted and might be a saboteur--or who's just clueless and needs training.
Know how everybody wants vehicle locks? This is the equivalent for PC.
That said, maybe the role shouldn't have the word "officer" in the title, since I suspect many corps will be using it to check off who is approved to join PC at all, and not just the people they want leading squads. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
709
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:59:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote: You can appoint multiple people to the role, and I would advise appointing everyone who's approved to fight in PC. If 80% of the people who are going into PC are appointed to the TCO role, then any connection issues where they drop out will be mitigated by being able to jump right back in after a reset. By having a way to approve whether someone can join PC or not, you can keep out anyone who hasn't been specifically vetted and might be a saboteur--or who's just clueless and needs training.
Know how everybody wants vehicle locks? This is the equivalent for PC.
That said, maybe the role shouldn't have the word "officer" in the title, since I suspect many corps will be using it to check off who is approved to join PC at all, and not just the people they want leading squads.
Except for the part where we can already do all of that. If someone is in who you don't want to be, you kick them. Now we have this role that CEOs and/or Directors literally need to go through the entire member list and give everyone who is eligible the role. It's stupid.
Not to mention people who don't get it aren't going to be happy, leading to unnecessary drama.
Glad you wasted a month on this, TrueGrit. 1.6 better be ******* epic. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:10:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Paradoxical Nature wrote:I'm very weary of the TCO role, not because of what it is or what it does. But, I've been part of PC matches where, like clockwork, a player gets black-screened, disconnects, or some other vague mishap that occurs when deploying to the match. In the past, if that player is a member of the corporation; they'll just restart and join in separately. If not, one of the backups (usually from the corp in question) will join separately.
Now, that you have to be a TCO to join a Corp Match, how can mitigation of Deployment Issues be lessened? I'm concerned about the same thing... you're going to have to give EVERYONE in the corp that does PC the role in case they have stability issues.
We'll likely give every person that is part of our PC team this role.
I'd like for members of the corp to be able to see some kind of badge or something for members that hold the TCO role. This way a newer player to the corp knows that this person is someone that has the knowledge/skill level to be granted the right to fight in PC battles. It would help new players find someone to give them advice that they could take to heart. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2209
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:14:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Paradoxical Nature wrote:I'm very weary of the TCO role, not because of what it is or what it does. But, I've been part of PC matches where, like clockwork, a player gets black-screened, disconnects, or some other vague mishap that occurs when deploying to the match. In the past, if that player is a member of the corporation; they'll just restart and join in separately. If not, one of the backups (usually from the corp in question) will join separately.
Now, that you have to be a TCO to join a Corp Match, how can mitigation of Deployment Issues be lessened? I'm concerned about the same thing... you're going to have to give EVERYONE in the corp that does PC the role in case they have stability issues. Which seems logical. I mean, if you want to TCO role removed then giving it to all members is essentially the same effect. Should be an acceptable solution until someone comes up with something better. |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:21:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:Goric Rumis wrote: You can appoint multiple people to the role, and I would advise appointing everyone who's approved to fight in PC. If 80% of the people who are going into PC are appointed to the TCO role, then any connection issues where they drop out will be mitigated by being able to jump right back in after a reset. By having a way to approve whether someone can join PC or not, you can keep out anyone who hasn't been specifically vetted and might be a saboteur--or who's just clueless and needs training.
Know how everybody wants vehicle locks? This is the equivalent for PC.
That said, maybe the role shouldn't have the word "officer" in the title, since I suspect many corps will be using it to check off who is approved to join PC at all, and not just the people they want leading squads.
Except for the part where we can already do all of that. If someone is in who you don't want to be, you kick them. Now we have this role that CEOs and/or Directors literally need to go through the entire member list and give everyone who is eligible the role. It's stupid. Not to mention people who don't get it aren't going to be happy, leading to unnecessary drama. Glad you wasted a month on this, TrueGrit. 1.6 better be ******* epic.
I see your point. But I also see the other side of the coin as well. As a CEO I like this. The only real problem I see with this is the connection/loading issues. As far as drama goes.......what isn't drama? Someone is always unhappy or bitching about something. It's all about how you handle the drama sir, that's what makes a person successful.
As far as a fix for this. I think having a option added into the little checklist on members to say "PC Eligible", would be a nice fix.
Parson, Smile sir. Life is good. Don't be so grumpy. It's a free game enjoy and help make it better. |
Paradoxical Nature
Goonfeet Top Men.
48
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:24:00 -
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Maffia- Thug wrote: I see your point. But I also see the other side of the coin as well. As a CEO I like this. The only real problem I see with this is the connection/loading issues. As far as drama goes.......what isn't drama? Someone is always unhappy or bitching about something. It's all about how you handle the drama sir, that's what makes a person successful.
As far as a fix for this. I think having a option added into the little checklist on members to say "PC Eligible", would be a nice fix.
Parson, Smile sir. Life is good. Don't be so grumpy. It's a free game enjoy and help make it better.
While that might work for some, it doesn't for others. Top Men takes whoever wants to gain some experience in PC, a chance in PC. No matter where in the Alliance that's in. The TCO role, as written, seems like quite a bit more hassle than it is worth. Further, making everyone a TCO, flies in the face of it's explicit design. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1070
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:33:00 -
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The easy fix would be to flag any player who joined the match and was *not* kicked out of the barge as being allowed into that one battle. If you drop from a PC battle without being kicked by a director, then you are allowed to rejoin that specific battle as if you had the TCO role. But you cannot join a different battle.
This gives us the benefits of both sides. We can designate a large number of people who have been around long enough to prove that they are trustworthy and won't awox in PC, but also allow unproven members to rejoin the fight if they have connection problems. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
711
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:38:00 -
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Maffia- Thug wrote:
I see your point. But I also see the other side of the coin as well. As a CEO I like this. The only real problem I see with this is the connection/loading issues. As far as drama goes.......what isn't drama? Someone is always unhappy or bitching about something. It's all about how you handle the drama sir, that's what makes a person successful.
As far as a fix for this. I think having a option added into the little checklist on members to say "PC Eligible", would be a nice fix.
Parson, Smile sir. Life is good. Don't be so grumpy. It's a free game enjoy and help make it better.
It isn't the other side of the coin. It's one eighth of one side of one penny (CEO/Director of large corporations) versus both sides and edges of five thousand fifty-cent pieces (everyone else).
It's hard to try to make the game better (which I've been doing consistently for a year and a half now) when people complain about mundane and unimportant features that CCP spends valuable time programming when they could be, you know, making actual content. TrueGrit is the same team that does PC and FW, among other things. In what twisted world does this nonsense take priority over FW and PC--the only persistent parts of this game (one of it's only unique features)?
And people accuse me of not trying to make it better |
GENERAL FCF
Militaires Libertas Logistics
0
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:53:00 -
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This is very cool! But can you so do that programming voodoo on the "Get Aur" button?! I always accidentally press that button. When I try to go to the market and it takes FOREVER to load! I try and exit but I can't and have to wait a brutal amount of time for it to fully load in order for me to exit. It sucks really... And can you please fix the problem of changing weapons?! Every time you finish using a plasma cannon or a mass driver and try to switch to a smg the character ALWAYS glitches out tries to reload instead of switching. Even the animation freaks out and the plasma cannon turns sideways and you cannot switch weapons for a few seconds after done reloading. Very annoying. Please fix thx! |
Hulk Avenger
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:07:00 -
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Will this be the major update of the new patch? |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1684
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:14:00 -
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Hulk Avenger wrote:Will this be the major update of the new patch?
I feel like the new WP rewards will be the more significant (feeling) update. I would think the new maps would be ready by then, although I think they can drop them in at any time anyway. |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
203
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:16:00 -
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GENERAL FCF wrote: And can you please fix the problem of changing weapons?! Every time you finish using a plasma cannon or a mass driver and try to switch to a smg the character ALWAYS glitches out tries to reload instead of switching. Even the animation freaks out and the plasma cannon turns sideways and you cannot switch weapons for a few seconds after done reloading. Very annoying. Please fix thx!
Whilst this has nothing to do with this dev blog or even what this team does as far as I am aware, but that glitch of switching to your side arm after your primary is empty and no matter how many times you press the swap weapon button it just resets reloading your primary almost brings me to fits of rage
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Hulk Avenger
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:17:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Hulk Avenger wrote:Will this be the major update of the new patch? I feel like the new WP rewards will be the more significant (feeling) update. I would think the new maps would be ready by then, although I think they can drop them in at any time anyway.
:O ... :D war point rewards sweet The maps might be ready by the reset i imagine but it could be delayed just in case inputting isn't as smooth. |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
914
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:27:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I'd like for members of the corp to be able to see some kind of badge or something for members that hold the TCO role. This way a newer player to the corp knows that this person is someone that has the knowledge/skill level to be granted the right to fight in PC battles. It would help new players find someone to give them advice that they could take to heart.
I would like this for all Corporate Roles. Perhaps when we finally are able to customize our Dropsuits, we could apply some sort of shoulder patch or something to show rank. Until such a time, even afterward, would it be possible to give those of us with roles a different Chevron like you did with the Squad Leaders. This same symbol could appear next to our names in the chat channels as well. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
551
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:33:00 -
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Plain and simple the TCO position is ignorant and for CCP to implement this shows how disconnect they are from wtf is going on in their game....
Sure lets give EVERY ONE TCO that will solve it, WTF is the point of TCO then... An absolute waste of time and to think we have been playing FW for nothing going on what 4months now.. Pathetic..
If TCO gets implemented and then we have to wait a month for a fix when we have multiple "Non TCO members" crash from PC and we can't get them back in this is only going to make people that much closer to leaving this god damn game for good...
Especially when people joining WAS NOT a problem since they made us able to kick people from the match.... Unbelievable.. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
175
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:34:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:
Any plans to allow DUST corps to form alliances without having to go through EVE side?
Also, is the leaderboard contacts list bug getting fixed in 1.5?
^ these 2 questions
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Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
613
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:07:00 -
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Will the new ground-specific roles be listed properly in the roles field of the legacy API MemberTracking sheet?
I am fond of the TCO role. It both allows corps who wish to operate that way give only designated squad leaders the role, and it also allows corps to promote people up to full members after a while. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
175
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:12:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:The easy fix would be to flag any player who joined the match and was *not* kicked out of the barge as being allowed into that one battle. If you drop from a PC battle without being kicked by a director, then you are allowed to rejoin that specific battle as if you had the TCO role. But you cannot join a different battle.
This gives us the benefits of both sides. We can designate a large number of people who have been around long enough to prove that they are trustworthy and won't awox in PC, but also allow unproven members to rejoin the fight if they have connection problems.
This is what I was going to suggest. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:15:00 -
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sounds great, and I love the little things... but let's talk about the meat of this patch :) |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:18:00 -
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Lol This is the Dust cycle, implement something not needed while breaking what's currently working then when fixing what they broke they claim its sensitive and takes time...... /facepalm
On top of that Foxfail trolls the community while waiting to release his devblog/info for the community conveniently after content lock.... |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2569
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:33:00 -
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For the concerns about disconnecting from PC battles I will have a look into allowing players to rejoin a battle if they were already in it and not previously kicked by a director.
I will also have a look into allowing squad members to join a squad already deployed into a PC battle provided the squad leader has the TCO role. This would allow substitutes to be pulled in on short notice without the squad leader leaving. |
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Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
613
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:42:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:For the concerns about disconnecting from PC battles I will have a look into allowing players to rejoin a battle if they were already in it and not previously kicked by a director.
I will also have a look into allowing squad members to join a squad already deployed into a PC battle provided the squad leader has the TCO role. This would allow substitutes to be pulled in on short notice without the squad leader leaving.
This would be hugely helpful.
If possible, can these features work regardless of corp?
If I bring an out of corp guy into PC, and he gets disconnected, it'd be nice if he could log in, and see our corp battle in his battle finder, and rejoin our side automatically, because he was in it already, and not kicked from it. |
general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.09.24 22:22:00 -
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nice work and programming on the new look of the tranquility uprising 1.5 update,i only have one major concern,will this new update stop haccers fom using a "backdoor" into the server systems to do a ddos attack again,after the last attack,my game client had to be reinstalled,as it got corrupted,whe the servers went down.i also don't like the thought of hackers getting and looking up my psn account information. |
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