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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:08:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles? I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind. I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop. I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer. While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly. Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine. You probably think I'm just QQing. EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Changed Title to get more attention. 
Ive only seen an uprise in Scrambler use after i came back out of retirement, during the first week i saw very little scramblers on the field, now i am starting to see allot more of them.
tough with all Scrambler Rifle skills at V + KBM + 3x complex Damage Mod = Heavy dead in less then a 0.5 seconds, this is
because we lead with a headshot charged shot coupled with 3-4 rapid fire blasts right behind it.
Before you QQ: This weapon has been deemed the most balanced weapon since it came out and you didnt see it a whole lot, because most people can't aim for the life of it, tending to overheat it too much or outright kill themselves with it...
It does become quite deadly in the hands of people who had 20+ years of FPS experience, but i could just grab the AR with 3 damage mods and be even more deadly.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:25:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles? I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind. I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop. I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer. While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly. Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine. You probably think I'm just QQing. EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Changed Title to get more attention. Ive only seen an uprise in Scrambler use after i came back out of retirement, during the first week i saw very little scramblers on the field, now i am starting to see allot more of them. tough with all Scrambler Rifle skills at V + KBM + 3x complex Damage Mod = Heavy dead in less then a 0.5 seconds, this is because we lead with a headshot charged shot coupled with 3-4 rapid fire blasts right behind it. Before you QQ: This weapon has been deemed the most balanced weapon since it came out and you didnt see it a whole lot, because most people can't aim for the life of it, tending to overheat it too much or outright kill themselves with it... It does become quite deadly in the hands of people who had 20+ years of FPS experience, but we could just grab the AR with 3 damage mods and be even more deadly. That's cool man I have 20 years too, I can't remember my first headshot tho, I think it was on Oregon Trail.
Wolfenstein 3D -> id Software in -> 1992
Doom
Doom II
Doom III
Quake
Quake II
Duke Nukem 3D
etc ...
We werent all born with a DS3 glued to our hands man...
Edit: oh this one, i tought you were being sarcastic, my bad
1981GÇô85 The Oregon Trail (Apple II)
1992 The Oregon Trail (Macintosh)
1992 The Oregon Trail Deluxe (DOS)
1993GÇô96 The Oregon Trail Ver 1.2 (Windows)
1996 The Oregon Trail II (Windows)
1997 Oregon Trail, 3rd Edition (Windows)
2001 The Oregon Trail 4th Edition (Windows)
2002 The Oregon Trail 5th Edition (Windows)
2009 The Oregon Trail (DSiware)
2011 The Oregon Trail (Wii)
2011 The Oregon Trail (3DS)
2011 The Oregon Trail: American Settler (iOS, Android)
2012 The Oregon Trail (Windows Phone) |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:33:00 -
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Quote:Exactly right. I've been playing as a Heavy since Chromosome.
I understand that in skilled hands, the ScrR is very effective, but should it be this effective against a Suit whose role it is to tank damage and defend an objective, which is exactly what i was doing? I wasn't wandering aimlessly in the open expanses of the map, I was inside an objective trying to do what a Heavy is supposed to do, and got dropped as if I were in a scout suit.
If one person can drop a Heavy before the Heavy has time to fire 50 Rounds, the Heavy is extremely underpowered.
It really depends how you look at it, is EVERYONE dropping you in sub 0.5 seconds with the SCR ?
then we have a problem, like with the TAC AR, everyone was dropping everyone in 0.5 seconds with it, killfeed was overun with the gun.
Right now only 1 awsome user with an SCR get dropped you in 0.5s, sounds a bit out of perspective if you ask me.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:48:00 -
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Quote:No, the ScrR in general drops me pretty quickly. Quicker than a Duvolle in most cases. The case which inspired this thread was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm not saying the ScrR is overpowered. When I'm in my medium suit, I can evade and thereby negate some of it's DPS, in a heavy suit, you have no choice but to tank the damage-from everything.
Most Scr users use 2-3 damage mods, most Duvolle users do not, its a world of diffrence, how much EHP does your setup have ? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:55:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:No, the ScrR in general drops me pretty quickly. Quicker than a Duvolle in most cases. The case which inspired this thread was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm not saying the ScrR is overpowered. When I'm in my medium suit, I can evade and thereby negate some of it's DPS, in a heavy suit, you have no choice but to tank the damage-from everything. Most Scr users use 2-3 damage mods, most Duvolle users do not, its a world of diffrence, how much EHP does your setup have ? Well, nearly 1200 on my Standard. Armor and Shield Upgrade Skills are at 5, and I run 1 Comp. Plate for Buffer.
Well all i can say is that ive never had an issue killing a Heavy, be it with AR, Tac, AScr or Scr, but as many times said in this thread, all my rounds go into your head or i am dead.
Its a really easy target to hit. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:49:00 -
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Quote:If one guy is able to drop a heavy this quickly, when inside the heavy's supposed dominant area (indoor cqc) the Heavy suit is underpowered. Shotguns do not even drop me this quickly
What do you think happens when they give people like this the scrambler rifle ?
Their optimal range is in your face, in APB Reloaded, the Scout Sniper is the most difficult weapon to use with a TTK of 1.5 seconds, most automatic weapons have a 0.6-0.75 TTK, miss once and yer dead, yet 3 guys at the same time is noooo problemo...witch even requires a reload inbetween.
Now these are all fast moving targets, imagine a slow moving Heavy, sure we are in your CQC range defined by your gun, but that range is also our range defined by skill, not by weapontype.
In the end you are taking it all to the face, well at least in my case heavies take it in the face!. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
610
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:12:00 -
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Oscar Neymar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Yet another reason Kb/M should not be supported in a console game.
It's a console for F**k's sake !! , how many other FPS's do people whine about not being able to use a keyboard and mouse in , COD MW ?? , BO 2 ?? , Crysis ? etc etc ... I say even the playing field and make everyone use the controllers made for the console , if you want to use a keyboard and mouse , play on your PC ....
why is it that only console players whine about what input device people use, you already got your Aim Assist and we are still a cripple in a wheelchair, but we adapt to it.
The PS4 is going more towards KBM, there is no more going back, its practically a PC. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:27:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:Oscar Neymar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Yet another reason Kb/M should not be supported in a console game.
It's a console for F**k's sake !! , how many other FPS's do people whine about not being able to use a keyboard and mouse in , COD MW ?? , BO 2 ?? , Crysis ? etc etc ... I say even the playing field and make everyone use the controllers made for the console , if you want to use a keyboard and mouse , play on your PC .... Your funny... people just spend 60 bux and they use their mouse and keyboard.... Your right this is a console built for gaming... and not everyone has money to buy the latest computer and latest hardware upgrades every few weeks ..... http://www.penguinunitedstore.com/products/Eagle-Eye-Converter-for-Playstation-3.htmlthis CCP does know being very in-tuned with the computer gaming world, knowing the budget gaming box will become the console. Gamepad is 30 years old.... Mouse and keyboard are so old its on its way out... its not some magical device that has come to replace your game pad.... Pretty soon the control interface will be at your imaginations end... notice hes playing a FPS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3b4w749Tud8
No offense but i dont see myself float my fingers in the air for 5-6 hours on end ....KBM on the way out is ...fiction. |
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