you know i had an insane idea that might work for av nades make them large nades so only the heavy suit can equipment them and then push the swarm launcher to a heavy weapon. just an idea to throw out there.

Swarms should be the worst AV weapon with low damage (195/missile at std) and low speed because they're light and lock-on
Plasma cannon should be a short range powerhouse (2100 base damage), but remain as is
Forge gun should get more range and less splash and lose 5% of its current damage, but get more ammo
AV grenades should be 1/merc, as well as losing lock on/homing, as well as having a significantly larger cpu/pg cost, due to its spammability.

All of this= 4 guys to counter one tank. lol


This morning, I came close to taking down a very nice HAV. but that SOB had a partner who hopped out and helped him take me out. All I was thinking was damn.. If I had another AV guy with me, that HAV would have been gone. And that's just fine.

2 dedicated AV guys. 3 for the more well fitted ones, or spiders. Nice numbers with out going the absurd 4 guys for ONE tank.

you know i had an insane idea that might work for av nades make them large nades so only the heavy suit can equipment them and then push the swarm launcher to a heavy weapon. just an idea to throw out there.

Swarms should be the worst AV weapon with low damage (195/missile at std) and low speed because they're light and lock-on
Plasma cannon should be a short range powerhouse (2100 base damage), but remain as is
Forge gun should get more range and less splash and lose 5% of its current damage, but get more ammo
AV grenades should be 1/merc, as well as losing lock on/homing, as well as having a significantly larger cpu/pg cost, due to its spammability.

Do you want me watching you ass in FW with my Amarr HAV or not?

Swarms should be the worst AV weapon with low damage (195/missile at std) and low speed because they're light and lock-on
Plasma cannon should be a short range powerhouse (2100 base damage), but remain as is
Forge gun should get more range and less splash and lose 5% of its current damage, but get more ammo
AV grenades should be 1/merc, as well as losing lock on/homing, as well as having a significantly larger cpu/pg cost, due to its spammability.

Unlike many tankers, I think the forge is very close to perfection. The proto version might be slightly OP, but only by 200-300 direct impact. The assault time should be set at a base of 3, but the skill is fine. We also need a standard assault forge to complement the proto and advanced versions. If we get the proper hulls and modules to fight a proto forge, someday, it will be a good fight. The range does need a slight buff, but not much.

Swarms should require a longer lock on or something to compensate for the auto tracking ability. Perhaps they should be user guided. If nothing of the sorts will be added they need to be nerfed. Is it ironic that only the honing weapons and explosives in this game deal the most damage? Right now they are way too easy to use and deal an insane amount of damage.

The plasma cannon is a weapon that requires great skill, but currently has little effect. This should go along with the idea that more skill input yields more damage output. I don't have any idea about a damage scale for it, but it should not be nearly as extreme as the current swarm scale (25% more damage per level).

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX INVISIBLE SWARMS

So you basically are saying that in order to take out vehicles you need to be in a heavy suit? How close do you think heavies will be able to run up to a vehicle exactly? Also you expect heavies to sacrifice their primary weapon for a swarm launcher? It's some good thinking outside the box, I'll give you that, but I don't think this would work.

So why is everyone QQ over av weapons? Swarm Launchers can't be used on infantry only vehicles same with AV nades. If a vehicle take too much damage leave it. The FG is perfect the way it is. I use LAV, HAV, and DS. So i'm not too upset to lose my stuff i brought out whining about it is pointless.

yours truly
The Overpriced Fatsuit

The AV grenades, themselves, arent that bad. It's when you have three guys standing on a compact hive, spamming them. they do more damage over a shorter time than anything else and are cheaper, less sp iontensive, lock on, and take no pg or cpu (compared to everything else)

Plasma cannon isn't stated to be an AV weapon anywhere in its description in anyway unlike AV nades, FGs, and swarm.

What is wrong with a little coordination on your part? Lazy or what? I mean we are talking about "tanks". They should be kind of mean and require some teamwork to take down-if not another equally fitted tank.

you know i had an insane idea that might work for av nades make them large nades so only the heavy suit can equipment them and then push the swarm launcher to a heavy weapon. just an idea to throw out there.

it makes AV suit specific, look at other games. there is a clear this are AV guys, always. PS2 you have heavy assaults, BF3 you have engineers, and the list goes on and they work just fine.

its either that or have AV weapons not get restocked by nanohives, which would be balanced.

AV Nades are fine, Forge Guns are fine, Swarm could use a slight nerf. Stop trying to solo tank, and actually get Infantry support.

I agree. Somewhere along the lines it became reasonable to QQ about AV just because they can't fight an entire team themselves.

Swarms should be the worst AV weapon with low damage (195/missile at std) and low speed because they're light and lock-on

Plasma cannon should be a short range powerhouse (2100 base damage), but remain as is

Forge gun should get more range and less splash and lose 5% of its current damage, but get more ammo

AV grenades should be 1/merc, as well as losing lock on/homing, as well as having a significantly larger cpu/pg cost, due to its spammability.

This is nothing new, they were whining about not being immune to anything less than an entire team as far back as closed beta.

I'm pretty sure they were bitching about AV before the game was announced.