DUST Search - Why do we have 5 CPM's that don't actively play the game anymore?

gbghg wrote:

jesus christ can we stop with this negative CPM garbage already? its tiring and just adds to the pile of negativity in these forums, which is way to big anyway. the CPM0 isnt going to change until the election apparatus is in place, and thats being set up, its one of the CPM0's core duties, their founding reason, CCP won't just let them ignore it. as for their activity, they do need to work on being more visible, it undermines threads like these, and yes some of them will go through periods of inactivity, RL always comes first, no exceptions, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

and about the people on the CPM, hell i trust them way more than some of the other forum personalities around, they seem to be decidedly neutral to specific roles, which is good, the moment we get elections you can bet that we're going to start seeing things like a tankers canidate who's going to push CCP relentlessly on issues relating to tanks. the thought of some of the people on these forums actually getting a direct line to CCP and the ability to give feedback on planned features horrifies me, imagine char or regynum with that power. i'm really wary of an elected CPM, and i'll do my best to stay away from it, i can just see it turning into a clusterfuck that will turn this forum into an even bigger mire and that will do serious harm to dust.

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Hawkin P Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 233	Posted - 2013.09.17 20:53:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously all 5 of our CPM's barely (if at all) play the game anymore. What happened to CPM elections? It rather see Quickgloves or Cubs as CPM (Both of whom I have been at war with, and don't see eye to eye about many things) but at least I know they are very active in game. Maybe then CCP you might be a little more in touch with your own game.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder. 49	Posted - 2013.09.17 20:56:00 - [2] - Quote ive been against kain in a match yesterday but you'r right. i barely see them on. IWS is in a 1 man corp(either he's inactive or he likes it that way)
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 298	Posted - 2013.09.17 20:57:00 - [3] - Quote Hawkin P wrote: Seriously all 5 of our CPM's barely (if at all) play the game anymore. What happened to CPM elections? It rather see Quickgloves or Cubs as CPM (Both of whom I have been at war with, and don't see eye to eye about many things) but at least I know they are very active in game. Maybe then CCP you might be a little more in touch with your own game. To be honest I cant say I know much about any of them or what they do. However the only one I see around on the forums is IWS. At least he has a presence here.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 212	Posted - 2013.09.17 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote How can you judge there activity?
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 294	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:01:00 - [5] - Quote Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 212	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:05:00 - [6] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM That makes no sense, who on the CPM is a EVE player that got in by playing dust for only 21 days.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 750	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:07:00 - [7] - Quote CPM1 Nominations SoonGäó. Who's your favorite candidate(s)?
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1707	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:10:00 - [8] - Quote I called this last month - the current CPM have little interest in the actual players and want only to further their own goals and agendas assuming that they still play. When I called for an election so we could choose who we wanted, the CPM bashed the idea in what appears to me as a power grab. Just my thoughts.
Heimdallr69 TeamPlayers EoN. 811	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:13:00 - [9] - Quote Getting kain to play other games is the hard part...he still plays dust
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 544	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:17:00 - [10] - Quote I said when they picked CPM - "these guys are scrubs and casuals" This game is dead and buried though so who cares.

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1734	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:17:00 - [11] - Quote I think you answered your own question.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1734	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:18:00 - [12] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM That makes no sense, who on the CPM is a EVE player that got in by playing dust for only 21 days. I was in a squad with Kain just yesterday.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1920	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:21:00 - [13] - Quote Honestly I always figured they brown nosed in IRC to get a trip to Iceland
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1707	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:23:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM That makes no sense, who on the CPM is a EVE player that got in by playing dust for only 21 days. I was in a squad with Kain just yesterday. Kain's interest in the game has always been how he can break it or twist it into his own vision (not ours). He may play the game, but he speaks for himself only.
Criteria Shipment Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance 450	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:24:00 - [15] - Quote IWS response in 59...58...57...
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6295	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:27:00 - [16] - Quote I fear for the day when player elections become a thing, honestly. So many misinformed votes, so much dead weight. :/
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1707	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:27:00 - [17] - Quote Criteria Shipment wrote: IWS response in 59...58...57... And his response will be 1) Passive aggreesive, and 2) Changing the topic to make himself look good
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3320	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:34:00 - [18] - Quote Bash on IWS as you will, the man has a thick skin. He's also very communicative - there's plenty of stuff that we know about because of him. I know Hans has been active lately - I've spoken with him a lot. I've never seen Kane much, Laurent has apparently just come back from a holiday, I'm unsure about Nova, and Jenza is just full MIA.
RIPRISING GONE RAMBO Living Like Larry Schwag 13	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:35:00 - [19] - Quote Dont think your gonna get an answer CCP logibro is busy answering questions about his fetish for beer.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1708	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:38:00 - [20] - Quote Nova is MIA as well. Laurent - never heard of him before he was identified as a "voice" in Dust and I've been in Beta since May of last year. He (?) has never said anything or communicated with the community. IWS communicates, yes, to make himself look good. When you suggest something contrary to his vision, he shuts you out. I've already said what I think of Kane. Jenza was very active until she was selected for CPM and I could respect her. She and Nova are the two that I would respect enough to represent me, and they are no longer here, leaving us with the only two active CPM members as the ones who don't care about the community. Yes we need elections.

Kain Spero TeamPlayers EoN. 2033	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:40:00 - [21] - Quote I cap out every week and have been running in several PC matches each week, so, yes, I still play. I do agree that having CPM that are active in the game and community is a large priority. One thing to remember is that the forums represent a slice of the Dust community as a whole and getting feedback from in-game directly and from speaking with players directly is very important as well. For me one of the most important aspects of CPM0 was finalizing a charter and laying the groundwork for an elected CPM1. The great thing about elections is if the community doesn't feel that a particular candidate has the merits to be a CPM then the likelihood of them being elected dries up. Personally, I'd like to see the CPM charter completed and voting procedures established as soon as possible. If you would like to get in touch with me I'm almost always available on Skype and via in-game mail at "Kane Spero" so feel free to drop me a line there as well.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4256	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:40:00 - [22] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM That makes no sense, who on the CPM is a EVE player that got in by playing dust for only 21 days. I was in a squad with Kain just yesterday. Kain's interest in the game has always been how he can break it or twist it into his own vision (not ours). He may play the game, but he speaks for himself only. lol if u think this @OP: kain plays
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1708	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:45:00 - [23] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Jenza isnt playing anymore since she moved Havent seen Kane at all since 1.2 Have never seen Nova, IWS or the other guy in game ever I also dont think we should have EVE players on the CPM, thats like letting a dust player whos done the 21 day free trial be on the CSM That makes no sense, who on the CPM is a EVE player that got in by playing dust for only 21 days. I was in a squad with Kain just yesterday. Kain's interest in the game has always been how he can break it or twist it into his own vision (not ours). He may play the game, but he speaks for himself only. lol if u think this @OP: kain plays That is all Imperfects ever attempted to do, and he was their "spokesman". When asked about things, Kane would yell and rant and rave on the forums like a mad man. He may put on an act now, but we've seen who he was before he was selected for this, and I remember how he treated people when he was a big fish in a little pond. Now, since he was selected for his current role, he tries to distance himself from his past - so that he can be re-elected. His post in this thread, while admirable, does not change how he treated me or others in the past. I refuse to support a man who never even thought to apologize to the community that he did his best to destroy.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3488	Posted - 2013.09.17 21:58:00 - [24] - Quote jesus christ can we stop with this negative CPM garbage already? its tiring and just adds to the pile of negativity in these forums, which is way to big anyway. the CPM0 isnt going to change until the election apparatus is in place, and thats being set up, its one of the CPM0's core duties, their founding reason, CCP won't just let them ignore it. as for their activity, they do need to work on being more visible, it undermines threads like these, and yes some of them will go through periods of inactivity, RL always comes first, no exceptions, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. and about the people on the CPM, hell i trust them way more than some of the other forum personalities around, they seem to be decidedly neutral to specific roles, which is good, the moment we get elections you can bet that we're going to start seeing things like a tankers canidate who's going to push CCP relentlessly on issues relating to tanks. the thought of some of the people on these forums actually getting a direct line to CCP and the ability to give feedback on planned features horrifies me, imagine char or regynum with that power. i'm really wary of an elected CPM, and i'll do my best to stay away from it, i can just see it turning into a clusterfuck that will turn this forum into an even bigger mire and that will do serious harm to dust.
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 544	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:04:00 - [25] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I was in a squad with Kain just yesterday. Kain's interest in the game has always been how he can break it or twist it into his own vision (not ours). He may play the game, but he speaks for himself only. lol if u think this @OP: kain plays That is all Imperfects ever attempted to do, and he was their "spokesman". When asked about things, Kane would yell and rant and rave on the forums like a mad man. He may put on an act now, but we've seen who he was before he was selected for this, and I remember how he treated people when he was a big fish in a little pond. Now, since he was selected for his current role, he tries to distance himself from his past - so that he can be re-elected. His post in this thread, while admirable, does not change how he treated me or others in the past. I refuse to support a man who never even thought to apologize to the community that he did his best to destroy. Lol you are still mad about something... :D CasualScrubs514
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1708	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:06:00 - [26] - Quote gbghg wrote: jesus christ can we stop with this negative CPM garbage already? its tiring and just adds to the pile of negativity in these forums, which is way to big anyway. the CPM0 isnt going to change until the election apparatus is in place, and thats being set up, its one of the CPM0's core duties, their founding reason, CCP won't just let them ignore it. as for their activity, they do need to work on being more visible, it undermines threads like these, and yes some of them will go through periods of inactivity, RL always comes first, no exceptions, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. and about the people on the CPM, hell i trust them way more than some of the other forum personalities around, they seem to be decidedly neutral to specific roles, which is good, the moment we get elections you can bet that we're going to start seeing things like a tankers canidate who's going to push CCP relentlessly on issues relating to tanks. the thought of some of the people on these forums actually getting a direct line to CCP and the ability to give feedback on planned features horrifies me, imagine char or regynum with that power. i'm really wary of an elected CPM, and i'll do my best to stay away from it, i can just see it turning into a clusterfuck that will turn this forum into an even bigger mire and that will do serious harm to dust. One thread every couple of weeks asking for change it too much? I respect you, and have for a long time, but if the voters are not happy with representation, then new representation is needed. If their job is to put the elections in place, then that is what they need to do. There is a lot of negativity, yes, but there is also a lot of positivity on these forums - none directed at the CPM we currently have that I have seen. Point me to a thread that says that they are doing a good job - I'd love to see it. Also - the CPM's personal lives definately come first. That said, they should also communicate with the community when they are going to be away. They took an added responsibility over that of normal players to be the face of the community. If they are going to be gone for a while - tell us. If you are no longer able to fulfill the responsibility that you VOLUNTEERED TO TAKE, then step down. Siimple.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2517	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:09:00 - [27] - Quote Forlorn Destrier: HTFU
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1709	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:13:00 - [28] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier: HTFU Expressing my opinion, just like the others. You don't like the opinion - fine. Your choice. If I remember right, though, you were one of the ones trying to tear down the community as well.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3323	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:13:00 - [29] - Quote gbghg wrote: jesus christ can we stop with this negative CPM garbage already? its tiring and just adds to the pile of negativity in these forums, which is way to big anyway. the CPM0 isnt going to change until the election apparatus is in place, and thats being set up, its one of the CPM0's core duties, their founding reason, CCP won't just let them ignore it. as for their activity, they do need to work on being more visible, it undermines threads like these, and yes some of them will go through periods of inactivity, RL always comes first, no exceptions, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. and about the people on the CPM, hell i trust them way more than some of the other forum personalities around, they seem to be decidedly neutral to specific roles, which is good, the moment we get elections you can bet that we're going to start seeing things like a tankers canidate who's going to push CCP relentlessly on issues relating to tanks. the thought of some of the people on these forums actually getting a direct line to CCP and the ability to give feedback on planned features horrifies me, imagine char or regynum with that power. i'm really wary of an elected CPM, and i'll do my best to stay away from it, i can just see it turning into a clusterfuck that will turn this forum into an even bigger mire and that will do serious harm to dust. Very well said.
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 146	Posted - 2013.09.17 22:15:00 - [30] - Quote I don't mean to be rude but I don't think its them not being around, I think its more people don't know how to / figure out where they are in game. Plus timezones are an issue too so 2 of the CPM's not being on NA time hinders running into them. CPM members are active on the forums, on skype and also usually are found at most event nights. Lately, all you've seen are posts on twitter, on here or through word of mouth of events like Drunk Night, Thunderdome, Dust glitch testing and I've participated in all of the above and ran into almost EVERY CPM member. On twitter you can find Hans and Nova regularily joking around, offering help or promoting things within the dust community that they or others have done. Drunk Night has had Hans, Nova, Kane and IWS stop in it occasionally. CCP Logibro too and I think GM Grave(?) was there once or twice. Thunderdome 514 I've seen Kane, and IWS there. (this was only its first week, I'm sure we'll see more pop in sooner or later) Gimble's and Iddon's "glitch" testing or "i wanna see if this actually works" events are tougher, usually found on twitter or through word of mouth but I've run into all the North American CPM's there.



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